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Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 23 @ 1:51 PM ET
can't agree with the "no upside" part...in the two years before last he scored 35 goals in 99 games while adding 51 assists...would have been the second highest goal-scorer on the sabres...

as prefaced, i'm well aware of the kind of player he is...I really am not looking at next season as being anything special and contrary to popular belief talented top-six players don't grow on trees

- Michael Pachla


Btw I appreciate that you come on here and have conversations with us minions. Its much appreciated.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 23 @ 1:54 PM ET
Your'e defending two players over 30 in serious decline, one who has lost more than a step and the other who couldn't give any less of a poop over a guy just entering his prime. Yes, Cody Hodgson has less skill than Alex Semin and Mike Richards. But the contractual risk and just the fact that Semin is a disease and noted as such publicly, I want no part in him "When skill refuses to work hard.."

I want to give a guy with determination and youth to bounce back over even a hockey god who doesn't give a poop.

- TheSabresTaco


actually, his two years in Carolina are right in line with his career stats...and as was pointed out, he was playing injured, on a pretty crappy team working for a first time nhl head coach

"Peters, 48, has served as assistant coach for the Detroit Red Wings for the past three seasons, working primarily with Detroit’s defensemen and penalty kill units."

how does that help semin?
sabrerob
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CT
Joined: 10.13.2006

May 23 @ 1:56 PM ET
can't agree with the "no upside" part...in the two years before last he scored 35 goals in 99 games while adding 51 assists...would have been the second highest goal-scorer on the sabres...

as prefaced, i'm well aware of the kind of player he is...I really am not looking at next season as being anything special and contrary to popular belief talented top-six players don't grow on trees

- Michael Pachla


I'm under the same thought for next season. I want effort and improvement of the youth. I don't expect playoffs but much, much better (can't be worse) hockey. I just don't want a player that is known for being lazy (2 teams soured on him) on my team. Can he score, probably/maybe but I don't like the type of player he is and would rather see the team grow together than see him here. Could he influence the other Russians. Maybe maybe not. Just don't think it is worth the risk. Yes Cody is terrible in the D zone but I'd rather buy him out than have Semin on the team
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 23 @ 1:57 PM ET
Horrible idea.

Hodgson had 1 bad year under a terrible coach. You guys are already throwing him under the bus. I'd much rather have CoHo here than Foligno. This year Hodgson will bounce back with a better coach in place. If he is involved in a trade for Semin then that 5th overall should be in the conversation as well. With a bunch of other things going their way from our side.

Semin and 5th overall for the 21st, our second 2nd rounder, a third next season, Hodgson, Foligno, Bailey and McCabe.

- Jammerz04


hodgson has one 20-goal season to his credit with nine of them coming on the powerplay...he had a 19-goal season with seven coming on the powerplay...take away his pp time and you have a six goal season
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
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May 23 @ 1:58 PM ET
I'm under the same thought for next season. I want effort and improvement of the youth. I don't expect playoffs but much, much better (can't be worse) hockey. I just don't want a player that is known for being lazy (2 teams soured on him) on my team. Can he score, probably/maybe but I don't like the type of player he is and would rather see the team grow together than see him here. Could he influence the other Russians. Maybe maybe not. Just don't think it is worth the risk. Yes Cody is terrible in the D zone but I'd rather buy him out than have Semin on the team
- sabrerob



But that's not the point of this blog.

I was trying to discuss the points brought up in the blog.

I would rather buyout Hodgson as well but IF I am not buying him out and attempting to trade him I would do the swap.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 23 @ 2:03 PM ET
I'm under the same thought for next season. I want effort and improvement of the youth. I don't expect playoffs but much, much better (can't be worse) hockey. I just don't want a player that is known for being lazy (2 teams soured on him) on my team. Can he score, probably/maybe but I don't like the type of player he is and would rather see the team grow together than see him here. Could he influence the other Russians. Maybe maybe not. Just don't think it is worth the risk. Yes Cody is terrible in the D zone but I'd rather buy him out than have Semin on the team
- sabrerob


I hear ya, rob...I get it...however I am of the opinion that he wouldn't harm the team as much as some might think
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

May 23 @ 2:04 PM ET
But that's not the point of this blog.

I was trying to discuss the points brought up in the blog.

I would rather buyout Hodgson as well but IF I am not buying him out and attempting to trade him I would do the swap.

- Stripes77


If you buyout Hodgson where do you get his expected offense?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
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May 23 @ 2:05 PM ET
If you buyout Hodgson where do you get his expected offense?
- Dangles13


After his 13 point season last year I am not too worried. As it fits right now I don't see him on the top 9

Kane Eichel Ennis
Moulson Reinhart Girgensons
Foligno Girgorenko Gionta
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 23 @ 2:06 PM ET
If you buyout Hodgson where do you get his expected offense?
- Dangles13


sign steven pinizotto?
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

May 23 @ 2:11 PM ET
After his 13 point season last year I am not too worried. As it fits right now I don't see him on the top 9

Kane Eichel Ennis
Moulson Reinhart Girgensons
Foligno Girgorenko Gionta

- Stripes77


I mean his expected offense, like if he bounced back to what he was.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
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May 23 @ 2:12 PM ET
I mean his expected offense, like if he bounced back to what he was.
- Dangles13


35-40 points. I think Grigorenko can do that.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 23 @ 2:12 PM ET
sign steven pinizotto?
- Michael Pachla


Sign Mike Reilly!!
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

May 23 @ 2:17 PM ET
After his 13 point season last year I am not too worried. As it fits right now I don't see him on the top 9

Kane Eichel Ennis
Moulson Reinhart Girgensons
Foligno Girgorenko Gionta

- Stripes77


If he isn't in the top 6, buy him out. He can't play a bottom six role, he is too slow, doesn't hit and can't kill penalties. If he isn't on the team to score we have to get rid of him somehow.

I'm not crazy about Semin and wouldn't waste money on him. We aren't making the playoffs the next two years anyway so I would rather use some of our picks/prospects and trade for a RFA. Saad or someone like that and take a chance on him becoming a consistent 25 goal guy.
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

May 23 @ 2:18 PM ET
35-40 points. I think Grigorenko can do that.
- Stripes77


Fair enough. Is it worth buying him out when a team like Arizona needs to get to the cap floor?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
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May 23 @ 2:19 PM ET
Fair enough. Is it worth buying him out when a team like Arizona needs to get to the cap floor?
- Dangles13


I'm not sure what anyone would give up for him.

Buying him out put the Sabres with $38 million in cap space. They would have to get to the floor I believe as well.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
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May 23 @ 2:19 PM ET
If he isn't in the top 6, buy him out. He can't play a bottom six role, he is too slow, doesn't hit and can't kill penalties. If he isn't on the team to score we have to get rid of him somehow.

I'm not crazy about Semin and wouldn't waste money on him. We aren't making the playoffs the next two years anyway so I would rather use some of our picks/prospects and trade for a RFA. Saad or someone like that and take a chance on him becoming a consistent 25 goal guy.

- BigStew


This is precisely why I'd like to hold onto Hodgson, give him a chance to build his value. He really can't get any worse, and this team has nothing to lose.
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

May 23 @ 2:22 PM ET
I'm not sure what anyone would give up for him.

Buying him out put the Sabres with $38 million in cap space. They would have to get to the floor I believe as well.

- Stripes77


Arizona might give up a draft pick for him so they don't have to rush any forwards. Buffalo could use that cap space to sign some goalies and maybe throw a big contract at one of the top free agents.
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

May 23 @ 2:28 PM ET
Arizona might give up a draft pick for him so they don't have to rush any forwards. Buffalo could use that cap space to sign some goalies and maybe throw a big contract at one of the top free agents.
- Dangles13


Is there a top free agent this year? The UFAs this year are less than desirable from a big money perspective IMO.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 23 @ 2:28 PM ET
Arizona might give up a draft pick for him so they don't have to rush any forwards. Buffalo could use that cap space to sign some goalies and maybe throw a big contract at one of the top free agents.
- Dangles13



Given who the top free agents I'd rather they didn't
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 23 @ 2:30 PM ET
'bout time you chimed in on this one
- Michael Pachla

he completes me
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 23 @ 2:33 PM ET
hodgson has one 20-goal season to his credit with nine of them coming on the powerplay...he had a 19-goal season with seven coming on the powerplay...take away his pp time and you have a six goal season
- Michael Pachla

that is one more then Tim Connolly ever had and just as many as T.J. Oshie has had in the NHL
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 23 @ 2:34 PM ET
After his 13 point season last year I am not too worried. As it fits right now I don't see him on the top 9

Kane Eichel Ennis
Moulson Reinhart Girgensons
Foligno Girgorenko Gionta

- Stripes77

we need a coach that rolls 4 lines and thinks outside the box
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 23 @ 2:35 PM ET
Given who the top free agents I'd rather they didn't
- Sabresfan-365

There isn't a guy out there I'd be upset they didn't pursue. Very underwhelming class
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

May 23 @ 2:36 PM ET
Is there a top free agent this year? The UFAs this year are less than desirable from a big money perspective IMO.
- BigStew


There isn't really a top billing guy but maybe Williams, Vermette or Joel Ward could come in as a mentor, though they don't really deserve big contracts.
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

May 23 @ 2:40 PM ET
There isn't really a top billing guy but maybe Williams, Vermette or Joel Ward could come in as a mentor, though they don't really deserve big contracts.
- Dangles13


I don't mind Williams but would pass on the other guys.
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