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turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

May 22 @ 12:10 AM ET
Id rather move up as well, but Im not sure that option will be available. 21 is kind of an awkward spot. There seems to be quite a drop once you get out of the top 15 or 16, may be better served moving down. Not sure the guy at 21 will be that much better than at say 26, and it could get you an extra 2nd.
- Sabresfan-365


How many seconds do we need though. Need quality not quantity. In your scenario I'd say we would look to trade that pick +++ for something like ROR vs a trade down
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

May 22 @ 12:14 AM ET
How many seconds do we need though. Need quality not quantity. In your scenario I'd say we would look to trade that pick +++ for something like ROR vs a trade down
- turbo044


Murray wont trade down from 21.........he said he'd either like to move up from 21 or trade it for a young player that is ready or closer than what 21 would be to play in the NHL
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 22 @ 12:15 AM ET
In that same respect...
Grigorenko & Hodgson should have better seasons, upping their trade value

- jdfitz77


Plot twist, we actually end up keeping Grigs.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

May 22 @ 12:19 AM ET
The biggest personnel move by far I expect the Buffalo Sabres to make at the draft:

"With the 2nd pick in the NHL draft, the Buffalo Sabres select Jack Eichel, Center, Boston University".

- buffalofan19


Amen brother. I have to be at that draft!!
SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

May 22 @ 12:21 AM ET
Murray wont trade down from 21.........he said he'd either like to move up from 21 or trade it for a young player that is ready or closer than what 21 would be to play in the NHL
- Homer



Might as well trade the pick to Ottawa for the Hamburger.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 22 @ 12:22 AM ET
How many seconds do we need though. Need quality not quantity. In your scenario I'd say we would look to trade that pick +++ for something like ROR vs a trade down
- turbo044



Hopefully not ROR though, and I like him a lot as a player
I don't wanna have to overpay to keep him here
If we're gonna do that, I'd rather wait until he hits free agency. If he doesn't, then someone else overpaid for him & I'm ok with that.

Burmistrov is a guy I'd like us to try & get
Possibly for a 2nd?
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

May 22 @ 12:22 AM ET
Agreed. That's what I'm hoping for

I'd like someone like Frolik in FA. Maybe Oduya

And a minor trade for someone

- sbroads24


Both would be solid additions. I think Murray has something bigger in mind though. Remember,last year we had to be be careful to not add too much; his year, not an issue
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

May 22 @ 12:25 AM ET
Murray wont trade down from 21.........he said he'd either like to move up from 21 or trade it for a young player that is ready or closer than what 21 would be to play in the NHL
- Homer


Correct - why trade down from 21 when you have 31
SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

May 22 @ 12:26 AM ET
Or perhaps that pick is destined to be in a Ryan O'Riley trade offer?


turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

May 22 @ 12:28 AM ET
Hopefully not ROR though, and I like him a lot as a player
I don't wanna have to overpay to keep him here
If we're gonna do that, I'd rather wait until he hits free agency. If he doesn't, then someone else overpaid for him & I'm ok with that.

Burmistrov is a guy I'd like us to try & get
Possibly for a 2nd?

- jdfitz77


Yeah I'm not sold on ROR certainly not for $7m per although he's Chris Drury lite. Beware of fa this year - not a ton out there. More opp trading with a cap strapped team for a solid player for min return
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 22 @ 12:30 AM ET
Plot twist, we actually end up keeping Grigs.
- Herzeleid


For this year i expect us to
He could still become a good player, but doesn't seem to be the type of player Murray likes
I think he'll eventually be traded
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 22 @ 12:38 AM ET
Might as well trade the pick to Ottawa for the Hamburger.
- SuperCat



Hell no
We need to do MUCH better than that
Way too small a sample size to think he can be our "franchise" goalie
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

May 22 @ 12:42 AM ET
Bylsma
Boucher
MacLean
Richardson

Who do you want?

GO!

- mhp

Bylsma with scarface and mike ramsey as assistants

navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

May 22 @ 12:43 AM ET
Murray wont trade down from 21.........he said he'd either like to move up from 21 or trade it for a young player that is ready or closer than what 21 would be to play in the NHL
- Homer

I would love for them to move up to 8 or 9 and grab Rantanen
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 22 @ 12:44 AM ET
Yeah I'm not sold on ROR certainly not for $7m per although he's Chris Drury lite. Beware of fa this year - not a ton out there. More opp trading with a cap strapped team for a solid player for min return
- turbo044



Maybe
But I don't want us to get a guy like Sharp
He's too old
But that's the type that'll be available
Teams are gonna try to keep their young players
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 22 @ 12:48 AM ET
I would love for them to move up to 8 or 9 and grab Rantanen
- navinrjohnson



It'll be hard to move up that high
Doubt it happens
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

May 22 @ 1:09 AM ET
It'll be hard to move up that high
Doubt it happens

- jdfitz77

Cory Schneider disagrees

Not sure what it would take, but my guess is 31, 21 and a player could get it done
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

May 22 @ 1:12 AM ET
If Sweeney calls Murray and offers him Chara for a 2016 3rd rd pick, what would you do?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 22 @ 1:27 AM ET
If Sweeney calls Murray and offers him Chara for a 2016 3rd rd pick, what would you do?
- navinrjohnson



Boston should be able to get more than a 3rd round pick for Chara
I know they're in Cap trouble,
But they aren't just gonna give guys away
I like Marchand from them. He'd fit in good here with the young group we have.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 22 @ 1:30 AM ET
Cory Schneider disagrees

Not sure what it would take, but my guess is 31, 21 and a player could get it done

- navinrjohnson



That's a lot to give up
There will be a couple good players to choose from at 21
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

May 22 @ 1:34 AM ET
Boston should be able to get more than a 3rd round pick for Chara
I know they're in Cap trouble,
But they aren't just gonna give guys away
I like Marchand from them. He'd fit in good here with the young group we have.

- jdfitz77

he'd fill out the top 6


if ennis is on the first line, I like him
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

May 22 @ 1:36 AM ET
That's a lot to give up
There will be a couple good players to choose from at 21

- jdfitz77

I think Rantanen is the third best player in the draft and he perhaps plays 100 feet better then anyone in the draft

"A strong three-zone playmaker who is also defensively responsible"

http://www.mynhldraft.com...t-Profiles/Mikko-Rantanen
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 22 @ 1:52 AM ET
I think Rantanen is the third best player in the draft and he perhaps plays 100 feet better then anyone in the draft

"A strong three-zone playmaker who is also defensively responsible"

http://www.mynhldraft.com...t-Profiles/Mikko-Rantanen

- navinrjohnson



That's high praise
I guess if it's a guy Murray really likes then it's worth it
If we stay at 21, Kylington could be the pick
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 22 @ 1:54 AM ET
he'd fill out the top 6


if ennis is on the first line, I like him

- navinrjohnson




With his style of play he could fit in in any of the top3 lines
Don't know why Boston would wanna move him though
squeakzor
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Northern Ireland
Joined: 01.24.2011

May 22 @ 3:35 AM ET
"You! Here! Now!"
- buffalofan19


Or just take a drink, and shout, "jack we're coming for ya!!"
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