Not sure why everyone here loves Yak and Eberle. Has anyone here ever seen them play? Yak can't play D, so him with 71 would be a disaster. Eberle is as soft as they come. Its like you see 1 highlight and think well they do that every night, lets trade Letang for him! Everyone here remembers that 1 BB goal of the 9 total he's scored in his career and think he's an all star. I wish my boss/wife/parents only remember that 1 time I was great and forget all the other times I messed up. Things would be pretty nice!
- sammy87

I never was high on either... If they could be obtained cheap, sure, why not? But they are prime costs and will never be cheap.

Not a big fan personally...I wouldn't do it with a $4M cap hit.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

With 1.5M retained I'd take Pouliot. + he cheers for the Penguins!

Not a big fan personally...I wouldn't do it with a $4M cap hit.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I think he's the only one that might be acquired for reasonable assets. Eberle is going to be a major investment, has very similar underlying numbers, and costs $2m/yr more.

He should be getting a 1st rounder plus... this is a really hard to gauge evaluation since they are dumping him, but keeping so much salary.
- Guile

Other teams, if interested, likely would be in a better position to acquire him. Maybe even a team like Buffalo with cash to spare and want to be contenders very soon...maybe takes Semin with $1M retained for some picks.

Other teams, if interested, likely would be in a better position to acquire him. Maybe even a team like Buffalo with cash to spare and want to be contenders very soon...maybe takes Semin with $1M retained for some picks.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Scuderi and the 2016 3rd rounder to Buffalo for their 2016 5th rounder?

With 1.5M retained I'd take Pouliot. + he cheers for the Penguins!
- Barnaby36

He's a pens fan?

I think he's the only one that might be acquired for reasonable assets. Eberle is going to be a major investment, has very similar underlying numbers, and costs $2m/yr more.
- jfkst1

Eberle is going to cost too much (to acquire and salary). But I don't care if he's "soft", he's got a lot of talent. After years of Dupuis, Gibbons, Comeau, Talbot, etc being put in the top 6...I would welcome someone of Eberle's talent level.

I like the prospect of what that kind of talent can do to drive possession and elevate Sid/Geno..rather than just passengers, like what I think B. Pouliot would be.

(again, we can't afford to acquire Eberle, but that's why I would focus on guys with serious skill like Yak or Semin despite their warts)

Scuderi and the 2016 3rd rounder to Buffalo for their 2016 5th rounder?
- jfkst1

Nah, we can't give up a 3rd round pick to dump salary. I'd rather buy him out and deal with the finances than lose one of our few decent picks.

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What would it take to acquire his rights?

Other teams, if interested, likely would be in a better position to acquire him. Maybe even a team like Buffalo with cash to spare and want to be contenders very soon...maybe takes Semin with $1M retained for some picks.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

A lot of teams "should" be able to outbid us for Semin. Buffalo is a great example, but depending on his trade/move clause, they might not be an option. Calgary is a team I think can do A LOT next year if they want to make moves. They barely hit the cap floor and made it to the post season after obtaining assets at the trade deadline.

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What would it take to acquire his rights?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Minor effort on JR's part...

Minor effort on JR's part...
- Guile

lol...well like a 6th round pick? Acquiring rights is a weird concept...I have no idea.

lol...well like a 6th round pick? Acquiring rights is a weird concept...I have no idea.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Acquiring rights isn't really a thing anymore. I forget what the specific change was last year, but its not really required.
Not sure if that is the same for KHL players coming to the NHL.

Acquiring rights isn't really a thing anymore. I forget what the specific change was last year, but its not really required.
Not sure if that is the same for KHL players coming to the NHL.
- Guile

The ability to talk to UFA's before they actually hit FA probably ended that practice. Also... Did an UFA ever really sign a deal with a team after his rights were acquired? Not sure. The one time Shero tried it, failed......miserably.

Acquiring rights isn't really a thing anymore. I forget what the specific change was last year, but its not really required.
Not sure if that is the same for KHL players coming to the NHL.
- Guile

He is only 23, and under control by the Jets for another 3 years. So he will be a RFA.

Contracts in the NFL can be reworked a few years into a contract period if the player is willing right? Wonder why the NHL doesn't do the same.

Contracts in the NFL can be reworked a few years into a contract period if the player is willing right? Wonder why the NHL doesn't do the same.
- kgrpitt

CBA. The NFL has the weakest of all unions. All of this stuff is negotiated.

The ability to talk to UFA's before they actually hit FA probably ended that practice. Also... Did an UFA ever really sign a deal with a team after his rights were acquired? Not sure. The one time Shero tried it, failed......miserably.
- madmike71

Didn't the Islanders do that with Halak?

He is only 23, and under control by the Jets for another 3 years. So he will be a RFA.
- cap1681

Ah... RFA makes things tricky... meh, we won't pursue him, Pens have never been big on chasing player rights or RFAs since Shero got here.

Didn't the Islanders do that with Halak?
- Guile

Yeah they did. I guess there's still some of that going on. Still seems like an awfully risky strategy. If you plan on over-paying and making an above market offer, I guess it makes sense.

Yeah they did. I guess there's still some of that going on. Still seems like an awfully risky strategy. If you plan on over-paying and making an above market offer, I guess it makes sense.
- madmike71

Well, that is one of the exceptions to the rule... I would not want us to make a "rights" trade. MAYBE for a 7th rounder, and that is just a maybe.

He is only 23, and under control by the Jets for another 3 years. So he will be a RFA.
- cap1681

I'd flip them a pick for him especailly if he is an RFA

I don't see Carolina wanting Sutter, which might be our best roster player trade asset... So, either pick(s) or prospects.

If Carolina wants to play the rebuild game, Harrington and a pick/bottom 6 roster player might be want they want. This is assuming if they are really "dumping" Semin. Personally, I think he should be worth more, and they shouldnt have already been willing to eat half his salary.

Lets say... Harrington, Spaling, and a 3rd round pick (whenever in the next 2-3 years) for Semin with 3 mil retained. If the perception they have put out is as bad as it appears to be, that might be all it takes.
- Guile

Interesting thought....

Not really onboard with the Semin thing, but lets say we do that trade...

Then we still have Sutter that maybe we can trade with Bennett to Arizona for the rights to RFA Mikkel Boedker who they have no shot in hell of retaining. I like Bennett a lot still, but if we send Harrington to Carolina, Arizona's gonna need a prospect. A guy who projects to be a scoring top 6 winger if he pans out with a change of scenery along with a young C that they may overvalue may be an enticing exchange for a guy they can't hope to retain.

That leaves us with Boedker, Hornqvist, Perron, and Semin as our top 6 with Kunitz being able to jump up. This takes pressure away from Kapanen to instantly pan out so he can develop properly. And then, of course, sign Soderberg as our 3C

Question though: does this fit under the cap? Donde esta capgeek?

Interesting thought....

Not really onboard with the Semin thing, but lets say we do that trade...

Then we still have Sutter that maybe we can trade with Bennett to Arizona for the rights to RFA Mikkel Boedker who they have no shot in hell of retaining. I like Bennett a lot still, but if we send Harrington to Carolina, Arizona's gonna need a prospect. A guy who projects to be a scoring top 6 winger if he pans out with a change of scenery along with a young C that they may overvalue may be an enticing exchange for a guy they can't hope to retain.

That leaves us with Boedker, Hornqvist, Perron, and Semin as our top 6 with Kunitz being able to jump up. This takes pressure away from Kapanen to instantly pan out so he can develop properly. And then, of course, sign Soderberg as our 3C

Question though: does this fit under the cap? Donde esta capgeek?
- Victoro311

No clue we are sending out like 4.3 mil in salary in the arizona deal. Spaling is another 2.2 Semin is let's say 3.5 and we wouldn't know what Boedker and Soderberg will make but we are like 11 mil under the cap before all these trades.

Interesting thought....

Not really onboard with the Semin thing, but lets say we do that trade...

Then we still have Sutter that maybe we can trade with Bennett to Arizona for the rights to RFA Mikkel Boedker who they have no shot in hell of retaining. I like Bennett a lot still, but if we send Harrington to Carolina, Arizona's gonna need a prospect. A guy who projects to be a scoring top 6 winger if he pans out with a change of scenery along with a young C that they may overvalue may be an enticing exchange for a guy they can't hope to retain.

That leaves us with Boedker, Hornqvist, Perron, and Semin as our top 6 with Kunitz being able to jump up. This takes pressure away from Kapanen to instantly pan out so he can develop properly. And then, of course, sign Soderberg as our 3C

Question though: does this fit under the cap? Donde esta capgeek?
- Victoro311

I really don't understand why anyone likes Boedker. His production is almost entirely due to playing time. Same as Vermette (who has been hugely disappointing for CHI) and Gagner. Boedker's points/60 was the same as Spaling's and he is a weak possession player.
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