madmike71
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 12.21.2006
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Queenie lost his crown tonight. Holy Sh!t. Channeling his inner MAF from a couple of years ago. |
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jfkst1
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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Second time I read something from this guy since I took exception from one of his blogs, and it was the same backwards crap as always. Completely hypocritical.... Poor writing...Poor everything. He's been the equivalent of the backwash after sucking on the bench water bottle during the game. That's what you get. - Topshelf Mountain
That site has a few good writers but many are just complete trash with poor content, research, and editing. |
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Anyone else ever told they're at stage four? DM me if you have... please. |
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That site has a few good writers but many are just complete trash with poor content, research, and editing. - jfkst1
I was referring to this site. I miss Metzer. I think what DK has been doing has been really good. |
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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 12.21.2006
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Anyone else ever told they're at stage four? DM me if you have... please. - Topshelf Mountain
Well, Stage 4 cancer is damn close to a death sentence......so.....
I'd bet Bartly had a brush with "stage 4". |
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Well, Stage 4 cancer is damn close to a death sentence......so.....
I'd bet Bartly had a brush with "stage 4". - madmike71
This is real life...so....I'm not laughing....
Yet I'm here. Which adds to the sad! |
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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 12.21.2006
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This is real life...so....I'm not laughing....
Yet I'm here. Which adds to the sad! - Topshelf Mountain
Wow. Sorry man, I thought Hockeybuzz had you at stage 4 warning or something. Didn't mean to offend. I feel like a d!ck... |
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Wow. Sorry man, I thought Hockeybuzz had you at stage 4 warning or something. Didn't mean to offend. I feel like a d!ck... - madmike71
No worries, I just genuinely don't know how people deal with the fight. I was hoping someone had something...on a forum. |
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dbell646
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 04.13.2009
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No worries, I just genuinely don't know how people deal with the fight. I was hoping someone had something...on a forum. - Topshelf Mountain
I'm not sure of any forums. But my prayers go out to you and your family. |
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was just looking at some random stuff this morning
checking out Viktor Stahlberg ...I was thinking he'd be a good buy low candidate after clearing waivers...totally did not realize he has 2 more years at a $3M cap hit. yikes.
Also, Nail Yakupov has quite an ugly HERO chart. He was kind of like my trade target number one. Young, fast, good hands, good cap hit, russian (just a small bonus for geno). But man his defense is as bad as Edm says it is. And he barely generates offense (according to advanced stats). Call it intuition I still think he turn his game around next to Geno but I'm starting to reconsider what I'd be willing to give up to get him |
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dbell646
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 04.13.2009
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was just looking at some random stuff this morning
checking out Viktor Stahlberg ...I was thinking he'd be a good buy low candidate after clearing waivers...totally did not realize he has 2 more years at a $3M cap hit. yikes.
Also, Nail Yakupov has quite an ugly HERO chart. He was kind of like my trade target number one. Young, fast, good hands, good cap hit, russian (just a small bonus for geno). But man his defense is as bad as Edm says it is. And he barely generates offense (according to advanced stats). Call it intuition I still think he turn his game around next to Geno but I'm starting to reconsider what I'd be willing to give up to get him - YouMeAndDupuis9
Problem is you're paying for a 1 overall but that's not really what you're getting in return. I think he'd be a good fit but the cost scares me |
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Justenvogt
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: MB Joined: 07.30.2013
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TOR does realize they are at the beginning of a full scale rebuild right? Babcock doesn't change that. He'll prolong the rebuild by keeping them just good enough not to get a lottery pick. |
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was just looking at some random stuff this morning
checking out Viktor Stahlberg ...I was thinking he'd be a good buy low candidate after clearing waivers...totally did not realize he has 2 more years at a $3M cap hit. yikes.
Also, Nail Yakupov has quite an ugly HERO chart. He was kind of like my trade target number one. Young, fast, good hands, good cap hit, russian (just a small bonus for geno). But man his defense is as bad as Edm says it is. And he barely generates offense (according to advanced stats). Call it intuition I still think he turn his game around next to Geno but I'm starting to reconsider what I'd be willing to give up to get him - YouMeAndDupuis9
Do you remember when he rented Ponikarovsky thinking he'd work with Geno? He wasn't a top tier talent, had four or five seasons around twenty goals, was Russian, seemed like an instant match. They sucked together. Yakupov seems like another one of that occuring.
At least with Semin, you have a MUCH higher history of production and experience than those two. |
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RogerRoeper
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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TOR does realize they are at the beginning of a full scale rebuild right? Babcock doesn't change that. He'll prolong the rebuild by keeping them just good enough not to get a lottery pick. - Justenvogt
I think people need to stop worrying about slightly better statistical chance to win a lottery. I do not want to spend my time seeing my team suck only to pray they win a lottery. |
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kgrpitt
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Location: PA Joined: 09.08.2010
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Do you remember when he rented Ponikarovsky thinking he'd work with Geno? He wasn't a top tier talent, had four or five seasons around twenty goals, was Russian, seemed like an instant match. They sucked together. Yakupov seems like another one of that occuring.
At least with Semin, you have a MUCH higher history of production and experience than those two. - Guile
I mean, I definitely see your point. Yakupov is a pretty significant difference in pedigree than Poni Express. I don't really care if the winger we get is russian or not...its just a footnote. If nothing else, I just like having that speed on the ice with Geno.
Secondly, I agree with Semin. Not many people are on my side about this..(recency bias?). My issue with him isn't really about the contract, because I'm assuming there would be a big chunk of salary retained. But, rather, worried about who we would have to give up for him.... He either meshes well with Malkin or he doesn't. At the very worst, he's an expensive right slot PP trigger man |
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I mean, I definitely see your point. Yakupov is a pretty significant difference in pedigree than Poni Express. I don't really care if the winger we get is russian or not...its just a footnote. If nothing else, I just like having that speed on the ice with Geno.
Secondly, I agree with Semin. Not many people are on my side about this..(recency bias?). My issue with him isn't really about the contract, because I'm assuming there would be a big chunk of salary retained. But, rather, worried about who we would have to give up for him.... He either meshes well with Malkin or he doesn't. At the very worst, he's an expensive right slot PP trigger man - YouMeAndDupuis9
I don't see Carolina wanting Sutter, which might be our best roster player trade asset... So, either pick(s) or prospects.
If Carolina wants to play the rebuild game, Harrington and a pick/bottom 6 roster player might be want they want. This is assuming if they are really "dumping" Semin. Personally, I think he should be worth more, and they shouldnt have already been willing to eat half his salary.
Lets say... Harrington, Spaling, and a 3rd round pick (whenever in the next 2-3 years) for Semin with 3 mil retained. If the perception they have put out is as bad as it appears to be, that might be all it takes. |
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dbell646
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 04.13.2009
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I don't see Carolina wanting Sutter, which might be our best roster player trade asset... So, either pick(s) or prospects.
If Carolina wants to play the rebuild game, Harrington and a pick/bottom 6 roster player might be want they want. This is assuming if they are really "dumping" Semin. Personally, I think he should be worth more, and they shouldnt have already been willing to eat half his salary.
Lets say... Harrington, Spaling, and a 3rd round pick (whenever in the next 2-3 years) for Semin with 3 mil retained. If the perception they have put out is as bad as it appears to be, that might be all it takes. - Guile
No problem with the cost I am just hoping we try and get younger and don't add 30 year olds. |
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No problem with the cost I am just hoping we try and get younger and don't add 30 year olds. - dbell646
Well, take heart in the difference of pedigree between this 30 year old and the last few we've taken on... Semin vs Kunitz and Dupuis... Semin will finish his contract at age 34. Kunitz is 35 with 2 more years, Dupuis at 36 with two more. Semin at least will finish before the age that Kunitz slowed down. And of course, I don't think anyone will argue that Semin is more talented than these two also.
For 3.5 to 4.5 mil (assuming the high salary retaining on Carolina's end) I just don't see this being a bad move at about the price I've set out. Almost can call this a Kunitz vs Semin cost wise... who would you rather have for the next 2 years? Yes Semin has 3 years, but take this as a head to head comparison first. |
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jfkst1
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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I mean, I definitely see your point. Yakupov is a pretty significant difference in pedigree than Poni Express. I don't really care if the winger we get is russian or not...its just a footnote. If nothing else, I just like having that speed on the ice with Geno.
Secondly, I agree with Semin. Not many people are on my side about this..(recency bias?). My issue with him isn't really about the contract, because I'm assuming there would be a big chunk of salary retained. But, rather, worried about who we would have to give up for him.... He either meshes well with Malkin or he doesn't. At the very worst, he's an expensive right slot PP trigger man - YouMeAndDupuis9
Yakupov is probably going to require major assets to acquire. He's also a significant liability defensively. I'd rather target Pouliot from them if EDM are that interested in unloading a forward. |
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sammy87
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Location: CO Joined: 05.05.2011
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Yakupov is probably going to require major assets to acquire. He's also a significant liability defensively. I'd rather target Pouliot from them if EDM are that interested in unloading a forward. - jfkst1
Not sure why everyone here loves Yak and Eberle. Has anyone here ever seen them play? Yak can't play D, so him with 71 would be a disaster. Eberle is as soft as they come. Its like you see 1 highlight and think well they do that every night, lets trade Letang for him! Everyone here remembers that 1 BB goal of the 9 total he's scored in his career and think he's an all star. I wish my boss/wife/parents only remember that 1 time I was great and forget all the other times I messed up. Things would be pretty nice! |
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Well, take heart in the difference of pedigree between this 30 year old and the last few we've taken on... Semin vs Kunitz and Dupuis... Semin will finish his contract at age 34. Kunitz is 35 with 2 more years, Dupuis at 36 with two more. Semin at least will finish before the age that Kunitz slowed down. And of course, I don't think anyone will argue that Semin is more talented than these two also.
For 3.5 to 4.5 mil (assuming the high salary retaining on Carolina's end) I just don't see this being a bad move at about the price I've set out. Almost can call this a Kunitz vs Semin cost wise... who would you rather have for the next 2 years? Yes Semin has 3 years, but take this as a head to head comparison first. - Guile
For the next two years, at equal-ish salary, I'd take Semin over Kunitz. Hands aside, Kunitz doesn't hunt pucks, bang bodies like he used to so I'm not comfortable saying he'd be an excellent 3rd liner in 2 years or else I'd probably pick Kunitz.
In general, I don't like the idea of bringing in someone that is already 30. But in this case we are likely to have the contract end before his age-based decline. Harrington+Spaling+3rd is fairly steep given we are buying so low, but with the salary retention, I think it's probably about fair. Harrington straight up would probably be fair value without the retention.
I just have doubts that CAR would ultimately be willing to eat that much salary for 3 years. Think about it from their side, if they retain $3M, they are essentially paying $5.7M for Harrington and Spaling.
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For the next two years, at equal-ish salary, I'd take Semin over Kunitz. Hands aside, Kunitz doesn't hunt pucks, bang bodies like he used to so I'm not comfortable saying he'd be an excellent 3rd liner in 2 years or else I'd probably pick Kunitz.
In general, I don't like the idea of bringing in someone that is already 30. But in this case we are likely to have the contract end before his age-based decline. Harrington+Spaling+3rd is fairly steep given we are buying so low, but with the salary retention, I think it's probably about fair. Harrington straight up would probably be fair value without the retention.
I just have doubts that CAR would ultimately be willing to eat that much salary for 3 years. Think about it from their side, if they retain $3M, they are essentially paying $5.7M for Harrington and Spaling. - YouMeAndDupuis9
He should be getting a 1st rounder plus... this is a really hard to gauge evaluation since they are dumping him, but keeping so much salary. |
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Yakupov is probably going to require major assets to acquire. He's also a significant liability defensively. I'd rather target Pouliot from them if EDM are that interested in unloading a forward. - jfkst1
Not a big fan personally...I wouldn't do it with a $4M cap hit. |
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thickman1178
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Location: NJ Joined: 02.21.2013
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