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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 20 @ 5:36 PM ET
I pay 48 percent
- Mentalorgasm5

We get healthcare and subsidized education. I get paying that much here.


WTF are you guys getting taxed for?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 20 @ 5:37 PM ET
I agree. I hope it blows up in their faces. I don't see where a coach gets off having a larger or just as much say in what the roster looks like. He's come across as a huge megalomaniac. FFS, the guy inherited a fantastic team in its prime, is 1 for 3 (I'd take those odds but still, he's no Scotty Bowman) in the stanley cup finals, and was mediocre almost every other year he was in the playoffs.

Ups our rivalry, though for the next 8 years.

- DynamicThreads

Well, the last time the Leafs iced a consistently good team, the GM and the Coach were the same person.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

May 20 @ 5:37 PM ET
What's the tax rate in NY? ~9%?


The combined provincial/federal income tax here will nail him for just under 50%.


Think its all about the money?

- Feeling Glucky?



Pretty sure in the states....especially NY or California, you're also paying close to 50% tax between federal and state.....especially at that level of income.
I have no idea what happened, but 6.5 million is stiff. Opinions on the man and his team aside. Just like players, there's always a new "great coach" in the weeds waiting for his shot. Whatever happens in buffalo, I just want to see it all Gel together. Solid coach, good locker room, good chemistry on the ice. I don't really care what the guy's name is.
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

May 20 @ 5:38 PM ET
What's the tax rate in NY? ~9%?


The combined provincial/federal income tax here will nail him for just under 50%.


Think its all about the money?

- Feeling Glucky?



He still raises the bar for coaches salaries, like he wanted, significantly. It was about numbers, not actual money collected. Although, I do see your point, obviously.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

May 20 @ 5:39 PM ET
We get healthcare and subsidized education. I get paying that much here.


WTF are you guys getting taxed for?

- Feeling Glucky?


We need to make sure our congressman's kids have fat trust funds. Otherwise, they cant kill people in drunk driving accidents and pay off mourning families....
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

May 20 @ 5:39 PM ET
We get healthcare and subsidized education. I get paying that much here.


WTF are you guys getting taxed for?

- Feeling Glucky?


Largest Army in the world.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 20 @ 5:39 PM ET
Pretty sure in the states....especially NY or California, you're also paying close to 50% tax between federal and state.....especially at that level of income.
I have no idea what happened, but 6.5 million is stiff. Opinions on the man and his team aside. Just like players, there's always a new "great coach" in the weeds waiting for his shot. Whatever happens in buffalo, I just want to see it all Gel together. Solid coach, good locker room, good chemistry on the ice. I don't really care what the guy's name is.

- seedy

DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

May 20 @ 5:40 PM ET
Well, the last time the Leafs iced a consistently good team, the GM and the Coach were the same person.
- Feeling Glucky?


Babcock wearing the C for Toronto next year, too then
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 20 @ 5:44 PM ET
Babcock wearing the C for Toronto next year, too then
- DynamicThreads

Somebody's gonna have to

Leafs were the first team to (jokingly) give the C to a goalie, might as well set history again!
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 20 @ 5:45 PM ET
What's the tax rate in NY? ~9%?


The combined provincial/federal income tax here will nail him for just under 50%.


Think its all about the money?

- Feeling Glucky?


This came up in here about a week ago too. The amount these guys pay in taxes isn't as cut and dry as to what city the team they're working for is located in. So let's take the tax portion out of it.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 20 @ 5:47 PM ET
This came up in here about a week ago too. The amount these guys pay in taxes isn't as cut and dry as to what city the team they're working for is located in. So let's take the tax portion out of it.
- HonkFortheGoose

It is for the players. Don't see why it'd be different for the managers.


Though it'd explains why some of the Leaf front office still lives outside of Canada.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 20 @ 5:50 PM ET
Like I said, money had nothing to do with it, more control did.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 20 @ 5:52 PM ET
It is for the players. Don't see why it'd be different for the managers.


Though it'd explains why some of the Leaf front office still lives outside of Canada.

- Feeling Glucky?


Even if you base it off of the same table as you would for a player, there's not a huge difference between Buffalo and Toronto.

http://www.vancitybuzz.co...s-teams-salary-caps/[url]
Carubba-Kaleta
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2013

May 20 @ 5:52 PM ET
Somebody's gonna have to

Leafs were the first team to (jokingly) give the C to a goalie, might as well set history again!

- Feeling Glucky?

And that's why toronto will always be a joke!
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

May 20 @ 5:53 PM ET
So maybe money has nothing to do with it but the highest paid coach now makes 6.25 million a year while the second highest paid coach makes 2.75.

Its a little about the money and he just finger-banged the coaching market in the ass.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 20 @ 5:57 PM ET
Even if you base it off of the same table as you would for a player, there's not a huge difference between Buffalo and Toronto.

http://www.vancitybuzz.co...s-teams-salary-caps/[url]

Still a difference of $500,000


I had no idea taxes in the States where that high.

I've been told many times how much better it is down there
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 20 @ 5:57 PM ET
And that's why toronto will always be a joke!
- Carubba-Kaleta

Can we all agree that I'm being really good about not biting on these, and just stop trying?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 20 @ 5:58 PM ET
Can we all agree that I'm being really good about not biting on these, and just stop trying?
- Feeling Glucky?


just a lot of bitterness and knee jerk reactions, it will pass.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 20 @ 5:58 PM ET
So maybe money has nothing to do with it but the highest paid coach now makes 6.25 million a year while the second highest paid coach makes 2.75.

Its a little about the money and he just finger-banged the coaching market in the ass.

- DynamicThreads

Ohhhh myyyyyyy
Kalahad
Joined: 07.13.2013

May 20 @ 6:01 PM ET
Still a considerable difference.
- Feeling Glucky?


Between federal and state, he would have paid roughly 48%. Bit over 39 federal and almost 9 state.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 20 @ 6:02 PM ET
Between federal and state, he would have paid roughly 48%. Bit over 39 federal and almost 9 state.
- Kalahad

craziness. So our federal tax rate is actually lower than yours.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 20 @ 6:10 PM ET
The taxes argument is overplayed. An NHL player's or coach's salary is more than enough to live luxuriously any place in North America, no matter how high or low the cost of living is in a given area. That's not to say that a prospective player or coach wouldn't weigh it as part of his pros and cons, but it's not going to make or break his decision.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 20 @ 6:10 PM ET
craziness. So our federal tax rate is actually lower than yours.
- Feeling Glucky?

Nuke em
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 20 @ 6:12 PM ET
The taxes argument is overplayed. An NHL player's or coach's salary is more than enough to live luxuriously any place in North America, no matter how high or low the cost of living is in a given area. That's not to say that a prospective player or coach wouldn't weigh it as part of his pros and cons, but it's not going to make or break his decision.
- buffalofan19

I was using it to say that given the reports that Buffalo and Toronto offered the same financial package, Babcock actually took less to come to Toronto, and thus it wasn't purely a money decision.

It's still true, but by a much smaller margin than I thought.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 20 @ 6:12 PM ET
Nuke em
- Mentalorgasm5

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