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HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 20 @ 3:05 PM ET
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

May 20 @ 3:05 PM ET
Are we good yet?
- Der Kaiser

congratulations
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 20 @ 3:06 PM ET
The Sabres got F'd here there's no question. Babcock is human scum. That being said even if we get a mediocre coach we'll still be at least two years ahead of the Leafs.
- bluengold12

If both teams offered him the same amount, he's actually taking less to play in Toronto, due to taxes and the higher cost of living. Reports out of Buffalo are that the offers were the same.

Reports here in Toronto are that he talked to Hunter, and that's what convinced him. They probably went over the Leafs' long-term plans, and he liked it more.

Being two years ahead doesn't mean anything if you're on the wrong path. Not that I'm saying Buffalo is on the wrong path... but according to all the reports, it seems Babcock liked Toronto's path more.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

May 20 @ 3:06 PM ET
If both teams offered him the same amount, he's actually taking less to play in Toronto, due to taxes and the higher cost of living. Reports out of Buffalo are that the offers were the same.

Reports here in Toronto are that he talked to Hunter, and that's what convinced him. They probably went over the Leafs' long-term plans, and he liked it more.

Being two years ahead doesn't mean anything if you're on the wrong path. Not that I'm saying Buffalo is on the wrong path... but according to all the reports, it seems Babcock liked Toronto's path more.

- Feeling Glucky?



Or the control over the path.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 20 @ 3:06 PM ET
I your avatar a female dog?


dogs dogs dogs dogs dogs dogs dogs dogs

- Buffalo--Sabres

Eunuch dog
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 20 @ 3:07 PM ET
Eunuch dog
- Feeling Glucky?



ouch
ImNoTroll
Location: RISTO is equal in value to = Druin + Johnson - MEBSabresFAN
Joined: 06.24.2014

May 20 @ 3:07 PM ET
Do you think that Babcock will want to trade Kessel or Phaneuf now?
- rmiethaner

No I don't. Which is a shame I wanted kessel. I also see this hurting the leafs, as I believe babcock will try to do what Burke did, put on a band-aid to fix the dam.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 20 @ 3:08 PM ET
Or the control over the path.
- thatsapickle

He doesn't have full control. Not according to everything Toronto's management has said since Shanny came over.

Shanahan, Dubas, Hunter, Babcock, and whoever they name as new GM- be it Babcock or someone else- will all have a say.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 20 @ 3:09 PM ET
hire Ted Sator, get it over with tonight
- homiedclown






Go Home, Clown, you're drunk.

Or Henry got a hold of you early.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 20 @ 3:09 PM ET
We started the day without Babcock and ended it without him. No one has pointed about yet the real loser is Detroit.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 20 @ 3:10 PM ET
congratulations
- watsonnostaw


reported.
ImNoTroll
Location: RISTO is equal in value to = Druin + Johnson - MEBSabresFAN
Joined: 06.24.2014

May 20 @ 3:10 PM ET
He doesn't have full control. Not according to everything Toronto's management has said since Shanny came over.

Shanahan, Dubas, Hunter, Babcock, and whoever they name as new GM- be it Babcock or someone else- will all have a say.

- Feeling Glucky?

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 20 @ 3:10 PM ET
We started the day without Babcock and ended it without him. No one has pointed about yet the real loser is Detroit.
- Buffalo--Sabres



Except they've got someone who a lot of people think can be just as good
OnPoint
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 04.07.2007

May 20 @ 3:12 PM ET
Hats off to Toronto. They came out on top. I would have loved to have had Babcock here but now we just have to hire someone to crush him into dust.

Danny B is my top hope now. Fingers crossed.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

May 20 @ 3:12 PM ET
He doesn't have full control. Not according to everything Toronto's management has said since Shanny came over.

Shanahan, Dubas, Hunter, Babcock, and whoever they name as new GM- be it Babcock or someone else- will all have a say.

- Feeling Glucky?



That's a lot of voices to appease. Much like the cooks in the kitchen image. To each their own. Babcock has just as much of a hill to climb in Toronto that he would have had in Buffalo.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 20 @ 3:13 PM ET
Except they've got someone who a lot of people think can be just as good
- Sabresfan-365



We're all in the same division. Now we're facing him on a worse team. Its second best case scenario of all scenarios.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

May 20 @ 3:14 PM ET
reported.
- Der Kaiser

oh garth
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 20 @ 3:15 PM ET

- ImNoTroll

Go to the Leafs thread, I just said it.


Still, everyone has their own role, and different expertise they bring to the table.


So, one guy's the pastry chef, another is the grill master, another specializes in seafood, you've got the sous-chef....


(frank) i'm hungry.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 20 @ 3:16 PM ET
We started the day without Babcock and ended it without him. No one has pointed about yet the real loser is Detroit.
- Buffalo--Sabres


Except they have a guy they can promote that's done really well for them at the AHL level. We don't even have an AHL coach right now.

One name I haven't read mentioned at all, that I wouldn't hate, is Dineen. I think he did a good job of developing the young guys when he was our AHL coach. Wouldn't mind kicking the tires on him now.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 20 @ 3:16 PM ET
Hats off to Toronto. They came out on top. I would have loved to have had Babcock here but now we just have to hire someone to crush him into dust.

Danny B is my top hope now. Fingers crossed.

- OnPoint


I think Pegula should fly to Grand Rapids and offer Blashill 3/$3M. And watch us punk TOR for the next decade.
Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

May 20 @ 3:17 PM ET
hire Ted Sator, get it over with tonight
- homiedclown

Who the heck is Ted Sator???
Let's not try to hire any bum off the street now!!!
We NEED a real coach!!!
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 20 @ 3:18 PM ET
WOOOW!!!!
I guess your extremes are really extreme today!!!
40 goals?????
1st year????
COME ON????!!!!

- Sabresfan88

Crosby had 39. I already adjusted it down to 33 because this league is not a goal scorers league at present.
ImNoTroll
Location: RISTO is equal in value to = Druin + Johnson - MEBSabresFAN
Joined: 06.24.2014

May 20 @ 3:19 PM ET
Go to the Leafs thread, I just said it.


Still, everyone has their own role, and different expertise they bring to the table.


So, one guy's the pastry chef, another is the grill master, another specializes in seafood, you've got the sous-chef....


(frank) i'm hungry.

- Feeling Glucky?


I just see Babcock wanting to go through a full rebuild. So I expect them to try go big this offseason.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 20 @ 3:19 PM ET
Except they have a guy they can promote that's done really well for them at the AHL level. We don't even have an AHL coach right now.

One name I haven't read mentioned at all, that I wouldn't hate, is Dineen. I think he did a good job of developing the young guys when he was our AHL coach. Wouldn't mind kicking the tires on him now.

- HonkFortheGoose



I remember we were both bummed when we lost him to FLA.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 20 @ 3:29 PM ET
I just see Babcock wanting to go through a full rebuild. So I expect them to try go big this offseason.
- ImNoTroll



I don't see how they can. I don't know who wants to inherit those contracts?
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