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Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 17 @ 11:06 PM ET
Already proven he can by having better numbers.

Put ROR in between Van and Pommer.

It'd be night and day.

Put Coho on Colorado and his line mates would have to drop it down two gears so he could keep up.

Coho is useless and its a shame because I really thought he'd be a close Roy comparison.

He isn't.

- dadeadhead


so .70 PPG is useless. Got it.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 17 @ 11:06 PM ET
Ryan O'Reilly plays with guys comparable to Vanek and Pommer.

The Av's have three forwards that were top 3 picks, and another two in Iginla and Tanguay who have played at high levels.

People are severely over rating O'Reilly.

- sbroads24



You win with guys like him on your team(all around type player).

The same will never be said about Hodgson.


Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 17 @ 11:07 PM ET
He was poor offensively this past season. He has offensive skill though. I remember when the tank was getting tight with the Yotes he looked way more dangerous than I wanted him too. He still stinks defensively though.
- Pierceme69


And there was a reason for that.
awildmudkip
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.24.2009

May 17 @ 11:08 PM ET
I'm not a Hodgson fan by any means, but there are plenty of one dimensional players that survive in the NHL.
- sbroads24


Agreed. If Ribero still has a job, Hodgson deserves a shot.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 17 @ 11:08 PM ET
so .70 PPG is useless. Got it.
- Herzeleid





I think you meant .46 ppg player.

And yes when this team is competing for the playoffs/cup he will not be here.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 17 @ 11:08 PM ET
You win with guys like him on your team(all around type player).

The same will never be said about Hodgson.

- dadeadhead

And we have that it Girgensons. We also will have another one in Reinhart IMO.

I don't want Hodgson here when we are good, but I think he can be tradeable after next season
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 17 @ 11:09 PM ET
You win with guys like him on your team(all around type player).

The same will never be said about Hodgson.

- dadeadhead


Not when your both A) paying them too much and B) giving up valuable assets when you don't need to.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 17 @ 11:09 PM ET
so .70 PPG is useless. Got it.
- Herzeleid

.46 for his career. ROR is at .58
ImNoTroll
Location: RISTO is equal in value to = Druin + Johnson - MEBSabresFAN
Joined: 06.24.2014

May 17 @ 11:10 PM ET
Not offensively.
- Herzeleid

Not.....not offensively? How many goals did he have Last season? He is an average offensive player who is weak every other aspect of the game. He sucks. Buy out, take the 747k plenty, and move along. I want players, not garbage.

Defending Hodgson's ability, is like defending the Holocaust, it's obvious what side is correct. He sucks, move along, there is nothing to see here.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 17 @ 11:10 PM ET
I'm not a Hodgson fan by any means, but there are plenty of one dimensional players that survive in the NHL.
- sbroads24



Correct and IMO that's not what I want on the team I root for.

He can go.

Buy him out or IMO what will happen is when expansion comes he'll be on Vegas/Quebec/Seattle.
awildmudkip
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.24.2009

May 17 @ 11:11 PM ET
You win with guys like him on your team(all around type player).

The same will never be said about Hodgson.

- dadeadhead


What exactly did ROR win in his NHL career? Lady Byng, right? No championships? Gotchya.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 17 @ 11:11 PM ET
Correct and IMO that's not what I want on the team I root for.

He can go.

Buy him out or IMO what will happen is when expansion comes he'll be on Vegas/Quebec/Seattle.

- dadeadhead

If they expand in 2016 that could very well happen. I read somewhere it might be 2017 though.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 17 @ 11:12 PM ET
And we have that it Girgensons. We also will have another one in Reinhart IMO.

I don't want Hodgson here when we are good, but I think he can be tradeable after next season

- sbroads24



I don't think anyone is trading for him unless it's a Clarkson/Horton type trade.
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 17 @ 11:12 PM ET


I think you meant .46 ppg player.

And yes when this team is competing for the playoffs/cup he will not be here.

- dadeadhead




You're the one who brought up playing with Vanek and Pommers. 34 pts in 48 games.

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 17 @ 11:13 PM ET
What exactly did ROR win in his NHL career? Lady Byng, right? No championships? Gotchya.
- awildmudkip



All around type players



Knowing is half the battle.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 17 @ 11:13 PM ET
Nashville, Montreal, Vancouver, Washington, Minnesota and Calgary would disagree.
- awildmudkip


Where would he slot in on those teams?

Not top 6 at all
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 17 @ 11:13 PM ET
I don't think anyone is trading for him unless it's a Clarkson/Horton type trade.
- dadeadhead

I hate Jake Gardiner with a passion, but I suggested Hodgson for Gardiner before
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 17 @ 11:14 PM ET


You're the one who brought up playing with Vanek and Pommers. 34 pts in 48 games.

- Herzeleid



Actually no I didn't.

It was said prior.

SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 17 @ 11:15 PM ET
All around type players



Knowing is half the battle.

- dadeadhead

AA is for quitters
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 17 @ 11:16 PM ET
AA is for quitters
- SABRES 89



Which is why I've never attended.
awildmudkip
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.24.2009

May 17 @ 11:18 PM ET
Where would he slot in on those teams?

Not top 6 at all

- Stripes77


Uhhh...

No playoff team wants Cody Hodgson on their team -Stripes77

I never said top six. He's a fine 3rd line player. But okay.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 17 @ 11:18 PM ET
Which is why I've never attended.
- dadeadhead

The Alarm would go off if you did


Navin had some very negative things to say about you and I
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 17 @ 11:19 PM ET
Actually no I didn't.

It was said prior.

- dadeadhead


You specifically mentioned ROR with the two, the only season Hodgson played with them he was at a .70 PPG pace.

Was also at a .61 PPG pace on a really bad team the following year.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 17 @ 11:20 PM ET
Uhhh...

No playoff team wants Cody Hodgson on their team -Stripes77

I never said top six. He's a fine 3rd line player. But okay.

- awildmudkip


And adding his 4.25 million salary fits with these teams how?

Like I said no playoff team wants Cody Hodgson
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 17 @ 11:21 PM ET
We're arguing how good or bad Hodgson is, only in Buffalo.
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