You're not even including the fact that ROR plays solid defensive. Hodgson is a tire fire defensively.
- Pierceme69

ROR:
Plays solid defense.
Costs more (both in terms of cap and giving up valuable assets)

Hodgson:
No solid defense
Cheaper
Would argue offense is similar if not better than ROR

Which is why I said he's definitely better. But I think Hodgson has more offensive talent to be honest.

I'd actually be interested to see what Babcock could do with Hodgson
- sbroads24

I don't know if he has more offensive talent, but I would concede that Hogdson has borderline top-6 offensive skills. His shoddy D removes him from a top-6 on a good team.

I still say he ends up back in Detroit.
- Pierceme69

I think the Blues could be a good fit, not sure they'd be willing to pay up though

I don't know if he has more offensive talent, but I would concede that Hogdson has borderline top-6 offensive skills. He's shoddy D removes him from a top-6 on a good team.
- Pierceme69

Personally I think Hodgson is Sam Gagner. In a good situation, he can score 50 points and be your 5th or 6th best forward. In a bad situation they are exposed because they can't drive play on their own

You mean that poopy team that had more wins this year and he managed 13 points???? Granted he wasn't put in the best of positions this year but come on.
- Stripes77

3rd/4th line with basically no PP time. I think you're underselling this part a bit.

ROR:
Plays solid defense.
Costs more (both in terms of cap and giving up valuable assets)

Hodgson:
No solid defense
Cheaper
Would argue offense is similar if not better than ROR
- Herzeleid

If Cody Hodgson is in your top 6 you are not a good team.

You need 2 way hockey players to win championships in this league, or a few offensively gifted players that score at a ppg pace. Hodgson is neither. Is ROR? Eh who knows if I had to choose who I wanted I would say neither.

3rd/4th line with basically no PP time. I think you're underselling this part a bit.
- Herzeleid

And I think you're underselling the fact that he couldn't break into the PP.

And I think you're underselling the fact that he couldn't break into the PP.
- Stripes77

"Ted Nolan"

If Cody Hodgson is in your top 6 you are not a good team.

You need 2 way hockey players to win championships in this league, or a few offensively gifted players that score at a ppg pace. Hodgson is neither. Is ROR? Eh who knows if I had to choose who I wanted I would say neither.
- Stripes77

ROR is definitely a solid two-way player.

"Ted Nolan"
- Herzeleid

I am not arguing Nolan is a good coach but if you can't break into the teams power play on the lowest scoring team in the league something is wrong. To put that strictly on Nolan is wrong IMO and I am no Nolan supporter.

If Cody Hodgson is in your top 6 you are not a good team.

You need 2 way hockey players to win championships in this league, or a few offensively gifted players that score at a ppg pace. Hodgson is neither. Is ROR? Eh who knows if I had to choose who I wanted I would say neither.
- Stripes77

If Hodgson even marginally worked on his defensive play he would be perfect for the top six

Where did Babcock and the Blues come from ?

ROR is definitely a solid two-way player.
- Pierceme69

I know that but I am not sure you win a Cup by paying a ROR $7 plus million a season is what I was getting at

If Hodgson even marginally worked on his defensive play he would be perfect for the top six
- Herzeleid

What do you think every coach he has had in this league has been trying to get him to do?

He has been a pro hockey player for 5 years already he isn't going to magically wake up and get it at this point

Where did Babcock and the Blues come from ?
- SABRES 89

Armstrong is meeting with him

Armstrong is meeting with him
- Sabresfan-365

Can't see him going to that ageing team

If Hodgson even marginally worked on his defensive play he would be perfect for the top six
- Herzeleid

What does that say? He's known he is poor defensively and he has never worked on it? You want that guy in your top-6?

I know that but I am not sure you win a Cup by paying a ROR $7 plus million a season is what I was getting at
- Stripes77

Gotta pay someone, and that $7 million a year will be cheap in 3 years for him.

Can't see him going to that ageing team
- SABRES 89

They have aging players, yes, but they also have some stud young players and solid defense.

Can't see him going to that ageing team
- SABRES 89

They've got some decent young talent as well.

Edit: Pierce beat me to it

I am not arguing Nolan is a good coach but if you can't break into the teams power play on the lowest scoring team in the league something is wrong. To put that strictly on Nolan is wrong IMO and I am no Nolan supporter.
- Stripes77

You think he just magically went from top scorer on team to "couldn't crack the PP"?
What does the lowest scoring team have to do with it? It's not like everyone who WAS getting PP time is better than Hodgson.

Let's see how he does once we actually have good players and he can play with them (Kane, Eichel, Ennis, Reinhart (maybe not right away), Girgs, Grigs.

He's already proven he can score (pretty well) when playing with good players, and even put up some points when he wasn't on the 3rd/4th line in 13-14

Gotta pay someone, and that $7 million a year will be cheap in 3 years for him.
- Pierceme69

Maybe but who knows what could happen. I would be happier if it was in the $6-6.5 range on a long term deal

They have aging players, yes, but they also have some stud young players and solid defense.
- Pierceme69

If Babcock was just looking for money I would say Pegula can outbid them all, so it must be something. The Blues have to many slow players.

They've got some decent young talent as well.

Edit: Pierce beat me to it
- Sabresfan-365

not enough

What do you think every coach he has had in this league has been trying to get him to do?

He has been a pro hockey player for 5 years already he isn't going to magically wake up and get it at this point
- Stripes77

Well he was a capable top six player before nolan, we don't need our 6th/7th best forward to be some two-way beast.