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Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 17 @ 8:26 PM ET
People can complain all they want about ROR maybe making 7 mill a year but that's the going rate and if it's not as of now, it will be.
- SABRES 89

As I've said, his comparable players by numbers are Bergeron, Kopitar, and Kesler. All of them make $6-6.5 million per year. Signing ROR for 6 or 7 years at $7 million per would be a steal in 3 years.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 17 @ 8:28 PM ET
He isnt. He doesn't even play the same position as those 3
- sbroads24

He went back to center this season after Statsny went to St. Louis, did he not? He takes faceoffs like a center. He'd be the best faceoff guy on the team if we acquired him.
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 17 @ 8:28 PM ET
He'll never get the chance playing defensively the way he does.
- Pierceme69


You guys realize he already is a 20G player right?
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 17 @ 8:30 PM ET
I would argue you aren't trying suggesting Hodgson is even a comparable player to ROR.
- Pierceme69


I never once said that, and Hodgson har more than 1 40(44) point season
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 17 @ 8:30 PM ET
He went back to center this season after Statsny went to St. Louis, did he not? He takes faceoffs like a center. He'd be the best faceoff guy on the team if we acquired him.
- Pierceme69

I'm pretty sure he played RW.

Either way, if he truly is on the level of Anze Kopitar, then they would trade Duchene or Landeskog before they trade him. Kopitar would be the best player on Colorado by a mile
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 17 @ 8:32 PM ET
You guys realize he already is a 20G player right?
- Herzeleid

He scored 20 goals once. I realize ROR has only one 20+ goal season as well, but he has 3 seasons with 35+ assists and he plays amazingly on defense.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 17 @ 8:33 PM ET
You guys realize he already is a 20G player right?
- Herzeleid



Hodgson????? One 20 goal season doesn't count, by that case Jonathan Cheechoo is a 50 goal scorer

Hodgson career numbers average out to 17.3 goals per 82 games
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 17 @ 8:33 PM ET
I never once said that, and Hodgson har more than 1 40(44) point season
- Herzeleid

No he hasn't. He had 44 once and his next two best were 34 and 33. ROR has seasons of 55, 55 and 64.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 17 @ 8:34 PM ET
Hodgson????? One 20 goal season doesn't count, by that case Jonathan Cheechoo is a 50 goal scorer

Hodgson career numbers average out to 17.3 goals per 82 games

- Stripes77

O'Reilly averages 15 per 82
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 17 @ 8:35 PM ET
How many more Babcock blogs can Garth write ?
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 17 @ 8:36 PM ET
O'Reilly averages 15 per 82
- sbroads24

He averages .58 PPG. Hodgson averages .46 PPG.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 17 @ 8:36 PM ET
No he hasn't. He had 44 once and his next two best were 34 and 33. ROR has seasons of 55, 55 and 64.
- Pierceme69

His 34 point year was in 40 something games during the lockout.

Number of 20+ goal seasons

Evander Kane -1
Cody Hodgson -1
Ryan O'Reilly - 1
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 17 @ 8:37 PM ET
How many more Babcock blogs can Garth write ?
- SABRES 89

You should get banned for writing a bunch of blogs about someone if they don't end up on your team.
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 17 @ 8:37 PM ET
He scored 20 goals once. I realize ROR has only one 20+ goal season as well, but he has 3 seasons with 35+ assists and he plays amazingly on defense.
- Pierceme69


He scored 20 once, in 72 games, on a poopty team. He scored 19 when he was with Van then traded. He scored 15 in 48. Take away last year, he is a 20G scorer.

And did you just try to compare ROR to Kopitar?
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 17 @ 8:38 PM ET
His 34 point year was in 40 something games during the lockout.

Number of 20+ goal seasons

Evander Kane -1
Cody Hodgson -1
Ryan O'Reilly - 1

- sbroads24

PPG

Kane - .61
ROR - .58
Hodsgon - .46

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 17 @ 8:38 PM ET
O'Reilly averages 15 per 82
- sbroads24


17.28 to be exact

47.24 points per 82 games as opposed to 38.02 for Hodgson

Yet plays a much better defensive game. But I have said in the past I do not want ROR
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 17 @ 8:39 PM ET
No he hasn't. He had 44 once and his next two best were 34 and 33. ROR has seasons of 55, 55 and 64.
- Pierceme69


Buddy. Please. Not only are you forgetting the 8 pts with the sabre so bump that 33 to 41, but that 34 pts was in only 48 games.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 17 @ 8:40 PM ET
He scored 20 once, in 72 games, on a poopty team. He scored 19 when he was with Van then traded. He scored 15 in 48. Take away last year, he is a 20G scorer.

And did you just try to compare ROR to Kopitar?

- Herzeleid

Kopitar is probably a stretch, but his seasons match up pretty close to Bergeron and Kesler the last 5 years.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 17 @ 8:41 PM ET
He averages .58 PPG. Hodgson averages .46 PPG.
- Pierceme69

Lets be 100% fair here

Hodgson produced when he played with Vanek and Pommer

O'Reilly produces with Duchene, Landeskog, Mackinnon and Tanguay.

Put O'Reilly here last season and he struggles like everyone else. Put Hodgson in Colorado and he probably nets 20 goals.

I do know O'Reilly is better, but it isn't as wide of a gap. This historically bad team has a lot to do with it
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 17 @ 8:42 PM ET
Buddy. Please. Not only are you forgetting the 8 pts with the sabre so bump that 33 to 41, but that 34 pts was in only 48 games.
- Herzeleid

You're right, I did miss the 8 points he had in 20 games with the Sabres. Still isn't a top-6 on a good team.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 17 @ 8:43 PM ET
Lets be 100% fair here

Hodgson produced when he played with Vanek and Pommer

O'Reilly produces with Duchene, Landeskog, Mackinnon and Tanguay.

Put O'Reilly here last season and he struggles like everyone else. Put Hodgson in Colorado and he probably nets 20 goals.

I do know O'Reilly is better, but it isn't as wide of a gap. This historically bad team has a lot to do with it

- sbroads24

You're not even including the fact that ROR plays solid defensive. Hodgson is a tire fire defensively.
sven233
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Middleport, NY
Joined: 10.02.2007

May 17 @ 8:44 PM ET
Less optimistic about Babcock with the Blues and Sharks involved now. It looks like Buffalo39 might want to revise his prediction because tomorrow isn't looking good like was originally stated.

Not saying it isn't going to happen, but with every passing day, I like our odds less and less.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 17 @ 8:44 PM ET
Less optimistic about Babcock with the Blues and Sharks involved now. It looks like Buffalo39 might want to revise his prediction because tomorrow isn't looking good like was originally stated.

Not saying it isn't going to happen, but with every passing day, I like our odds less and less.

- sven233

I still say he ends up back in Detroit.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 17 @ 8:45 PM ET
He scored 20 once, in 72 games, on a poopty team. He scored 19 when he was with Van then traded. He scored 15 in 48. Take away last year, he is a 20G scorer.

And did you just try to compare ROR to Kopitar?

- Herzeleid



You mean that poopy team that had more wins this year and he managed 13 points???? Granted he wasn't put in the best of positions this year but come on.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 17 @ 8:45 PM ET
You're not even including the fact that ROR plays solid defensive. Hodgson is a tire fire defensively.
- Pierceme69

Which is why I said he's definitely better. But I think Hodgson has more offensive talent to be honest.

I'd actually be interested to see what Babcock could do with Hodgson
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