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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 9:24 AM ET
More than a couple "ifs" you just laid out there. But I think he's a player. Reminds me of Bill Guerin.
- Jeropotato



Only 1 "if" in there
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

May 16 @ 9:25 AM ET
Only 1 "if" in there
- Sabresfan-365

Yeah, I was exaggerating ......



















....he's no Bill Guerin
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 9:27 AM ET
Yeah, I was exaggerating ......



















....he's no Bill Guerin

- Jeropotato



Oh you're good
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

May 16 @ 9:29 AM ET
Oh you're good
- Sabresfan-365

Not good...I'm Mighty!
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

May 16 @ 9:44 AM ET
There is a chance that maybe he looked better playing with a better team? Lol.. Reinharts team was garbage. He single handily took them from being a bottom tier team to playoffs
- beargk

He was dominant with an average raiders team last year too.

But whatever, it was more pushing buttons about your golden boy than anything else.


Both are great players. In fact, if I was forced to make a guess now, I'd bet Reinhart probably marginally outscores Leon in the pros. but In terms of the oilers moving forward; Leon's frame, strength and ability to make plays from the rough areas makes him a perfect 2c to trot out after mcdavids top line

A few years down the line..

?, mcdavid, Eberle
Hall, draisaitl, yaks

I think they try and fill that top lw spot with a big power forward who can create space.
And depending on leon/Connors development, I think nuge might be the guy getting moved in the future

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 9:54 AM ET
He was dominant with an average raiders team last year too.

But whatever, it was more pushing buttons about your golden boy than anything else.


Both are great players. In fact, if I was forced to make a guess now, I'd bet Reinhart probably marginally outscores Leon in the pros. but In terms of the oilers moving forward; Leon's frame, strength and ability to make plays from the rough areas makes him a perfect 2c to trot out after mcdavids top line

A few years down the line..

?, mcdavid, Eberle
Hall, draisaitl, yaks

I think they try and fill that top lw spot with a big power forward who can create space.
And depending on leon/Connors development, I think nuge might be the guy getting moved in the future

- Ihateallofu


Bronze boy at this point, Eichel-Risto-Reinhart. Love the nuge, I hope murray makes that call
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

May 16 @ 10:13 AM ET
Long time lurker first time poster. Been a sabre fan since I was 6 years old, watching Perreault, Martin and Robert in the fog game in the 1975 finals. My dad and grandpa had seasons 2 seats up from the top of the oranges of the old aud and I went to a ton of games from 3 years old on.


Anyway I've been tied into the Sabres for a long time. I've read all these posts and am mixed on whether Babcock chooses Buffalo, despite what 39 says. The one thing that hasn't been brought up and we should watch for: Mrs. Babcock is integral in this and if Mike is seriously thinking of buffalo, look for the Pegulas to take there plane to Detroit to pick up the pair on Monday to scout out the city for the Mrs as Mike gets back from the worlds Sunday night. This may be the next indication that we see, either way. Perhaps they already have wined and dined her when Mike's been overseas, who knows?? This is an obvious strength of the Pegulas
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 16 @ 10:20 AM ET
You can't forget about Zack Bagosian...

This kid looks like a poorman's Brent Seabrook!!

- SuperCat

Very poor man's
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

May 16 @ 10:21 AM ET
Long time lurker first time poster. Been a sabre fan since I was 6 years old, watching Perreault, Martin and Robert in the fog game in the 1975 finals. My dad and grandpa had seasons 2 seats up from the top of the oranges of the old aud and I went to a ton of games from 3 years old on.


Anyway I've been tied into the Sabres for a long time. I've read all these posts and am mixed on whether Babcock chooses Buffalo, despite what 39 says. The one thing that hasn't been brought up and we should watch for: Mrs. Babcock is integral in this and if Mike is seriously thinking of buffalo, look for the Pegulas to take there plane to Detroit to pick up the pair on Monday to scout out the city for the Mrs as Mike gets back from the worlds Sunday night. This may be the next indication that we see, either way. Perhaps they already have wined and dined her when Mike's been overseas, who knows?? This is an obvious strength of the Pegulas

- turbo044


Welcome . Post more !

Yeah I think it's safe to assume that either way there has been a LOT more dialogue that's gone back and forth with this whole thing than has been reported.

Not that the Babcocks are headed for the poor house but money just does things to people. Even if they're wealthy already there is something built in to people's systems (especially those that have already tasted wealth) that they want more. And more and more and more.

I think $6M or whatever has been reported could make Mrs B learn to be happy here.
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

May 16 @ 10:22 AM ET
Very poor man's
- sbroads24

I like what he brings. As long as he can stay on the ice. And that's been a problem.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 16 @ 10:23 AM ET
How about Marek Zidlickey as a Teppo Numinen type UFA?
- SuperCat

nice thinking


an ape and myself have been on that wagon for a while
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 16 @ 10:40 AM ET

I think $6M or whatever has been reported could make Mrs B learn to be happy here.

- Pairo11

LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

May 16 @ 10:42 AM ET
Very poor man's
- sbroads24


And Myers is a brain-dead man's Chara. Our blue line is tougher to play against because of that trade.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 16 @ 10:46 AM ET
And Myers is a brain-dead man's Chara. Our blue line is tougher to play against because of that trade.
- LandlordTom

oh snap
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 16 @ 10:49 AM ET
And Myers is a brain-dead man's Chara. Our blue line is tougher to play against because of that trade.
- LandlordTom

It won't be tougher when Bogosian is injured or in the penalty box.

Bogosian is very average for a 3rd overall pick
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 16 @ 10:50 AM ET
With 4 picks in the first 2 rounds of this yr's draft, that could happen.


Trade Grigorenko, Larrsson, and a 1st & 2nd rd pick:to Colorado for Ryan O' Riley...



And you don't have to sign J. Williams.

- SuperCat


God damnit Supercat.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 16 @ 10:57 AM ET
Draisaitl > Reinhart

Whl champ, playoff mvp, and outscored Sam in the regular season too.


Oilers got the best forward in the chl (or are about to have anyway)
Best defenseman in the ohl
Best forward in the whl


- Ihateallofu


lol

trolololol
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 16 @ 11:00 AM ET
God damnit Supercat.
- TheSabresTaco

Ryan O'Reilly is a god damn hero. Show some respect
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 16 @ 11:22 AM ET
lol

trolololol

- TheSabresTaco

Regardless of my admitted troll, it's certainly debatable.
And far from a ridiculous statement that Leon has been on par or better than Sam this past junior season.

And neither is it a huge stretch that Leon may also be the better nhl'er.

As I said, I think both will be quality nhl'ers and bring a much needed skill set to their respective teams

In a perfect world, both will be elite 2c's behind the 1c's of eichel/mcdavid
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 16 @ 11:31 AM ET
Regardless of my admitted troll, it's certainly debatable.
And far from a ridiculous statement that Leon has been on par or better than Sam this past junior season.

And neither is it a huge stretch that Leon may also be the better nhl'er.

As I said, I think both will be quality nhl'ers and bring a much needed skill set to their respective teams

In a perfect world, both will be elite 2c's behind the 1c's of eichel/mcdavid

- hugefemaledog77

It's not a stretch at all. I said at the time of the 2014 draft you could have put all three forwards in any order and it wouldn't surprise me.

Sam Bennett looked pretty good for an 18 year old in the playoffs. He's also younger than Draisaitl and Reinhart. He might very well turn out to be a star, while the other two are just pretty good
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 11:31 AM ET
It's not a stretch at all. I said at the time of the 2014 draft you could have put all three forwards in any order and it wouldn't surprise me.

Sam Bennett looked pretty good for an 18 year old in the playoffs. He's also younger than Draisaitl and Reinhart. He might very well turn out to be a star, while the other two are just pretty good

- sbroads24



Larkin could end up better than all 3
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 16 @ 11:35 AM ET
Larkin could end up better than all 3
- Sabresfan-365

Absolutely. It's all situational too.

Reinhart looks to be in a great situation. Number 2 center on a rising team. (Eventually)

Bennett might play on Monahans wing for the next 10 years.

Draisaitl is in a tougher spot. No idea where he fits in
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 16 @ 11:40 AM ET
It's not a stretch at all. I said at the time of the 2014 draft you could have put all three forwards in any order and it wouldn't surprise me.

Sam Bennett looked pretty good for an 18 year old in the playoffs. He's also younger than Draisaitl and Reinhart. He might very well turn out to be a star, while the other two are just pretty good

- sbroads24

Great post. And agreed.

And due to that toss up you speak of and the the skill, size and style each brings, I think buff obviously got the guy they wanted, but so did edm.

And Bennett was extremely impressive for Calgary in the playoffs. Their best forward a couple nights I thought. Kind of a kick in the balls to think we may have missed on Bennett. but again, I think Leons size and frame was exactly what the oilers needed regardless of how good sb is.
Jeropotato
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Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

May 16 @ 11:42 AM ET
Great post. And agreed.

And due to that toss up you speak of and the the skill, size and style each brings, I think buff obviously got the guy they wanted, but so did edm.

And Bennett was extremely impressive for Calgary in the playoffs. Their best forward a couple nights I thought. Kind of a kick in the balls to think west have missed on Bennett, but again, I think Leons size and frame was exactly what the oilers needed regardless of how good sb is.

- hugefemaledog77

We don't need no stinking Bennett.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 16 @ 11:42 AM ET
Absolutely. It's all situational too.

Reinhart looks to be in a great situation. Number 2 center on a rising team. (Eventually)

Bennett might play on Monahans wing for the next 10 years.

Draisaitl is in a tougher spot. No idea where he fits in

- sbroads24

At this point his spot is up in the air. If he can earn a spot in the big club, I'd bet he's playing winger somewhere in the middle 6.

But long term, if he turns into what they hope, id bet he's the guy they want at 2c behind mcdavid going forward.
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