I'm not open to trading Yakupov just yet. Unless it's a "too good to pass up" offer.
- ChetManly

Ditto, until he's 25 and has failed to put up more than 40 points in a season I'm not going to write him off.

Would it though? Anyone open to moving a legit top pairing Dman is likely looking for some level of cap relief.

Let's take Chicago as an example; if I'm gonna move out an established, high quality Dman like Seabrook, it's because I couldn't find the right deal for either of Sharp or Crawford. Once that condition is met, it also needs to be understood that any deal needs to have multiple lower priced, high upside pieces coming back as clearing cap space while remaining competitive needs to be the end game.

Considering that, which package do you think Chicago would prefer?

Eberle for Seabrook (perhaps another cap dump like Bickell)
or
Yakupov+ Marincin+ a 2nd in 2015

(Side note: these aren't trades I do so much as examples of types of trades that would happen)

Now one other question; which other teams would have the means to trade away a top pair Dman? As far as I can see it's the Rangers, the Hawks, and maybe one of the Canucks, the Sharks, or the Lightning- depending upon your opinions of Edler, Hamhuis, Braun, Carle, and Coburn.
- MaximumBone

Fair enough, i guess it would really depend on the dynamics of the team we're trading with.

on the 2nd question, I think we would need to look on teams on the verge of a rebuild, you suggested Van, I would throw in SJS as well, maybe even a Detroit.

If Jultz is retained this coming season. He better only get 3rd pairing and PP time.

Question, do you think anyone would claim him off waivers?
- ChetManly

Yes, Schultz is still a valuable asset. How many teams would like to have a player capable of scoring 30+ points from the back end?

The only reason I brought up trading him is because he needs to be better insulated and if the Oilers cannot insulate him then it might be better to get a more established guy if they can.

Would it though? Anyone open to moving a legit top pairing Dman is likely looking for some level of cap relief.

Let's take Chicago as an example; if I'm gonna move out an established, high quality Dman like Seabrook, it's because I couldn't find the right deal for either of Sharp or Crawford. Once that condition is met, it also needs to be understood that any deal needs to have multiple lower priced, high upside pieces coming back as clearing cap space while remaining competitive needs to be the end game.

Considering that, which package do you think Chicago would prefer?

Eberle for Seabrook (perhaps another cap dump like Bickell)
or
Yakupov+ Marincin+ a 2nd in 2015

(Side note: these aren't trades I do so much as examples of types of trades that would happen)

Now one other question; which other teams would have the means to trade away a top pair Dman? As far as I can see it's the Rangers, the Hawks, and maybe one of the Canucks, the Sharks, or the Lightning- depending upon your opinions of Edler, Hamhuis, Braun, Carle, and Coburn.
- MaximumBone

No go on either unless Seabrook signed an extension

If Jultz is retained this coming season. He better only get 3rd pairing and PP time.

Question, do you think anyone would claim him off waivers?
- ChetManly

I'd still be fine with him starting off with 2nd pairing time as I doubt we fill the appropriate amount of holes to push him that far down. Still curious to see if he can grow his game enough to fill such a role and- contrary to most others- don't think he's peaked yet. I do, however, understand those who believe different.

The fact that people think Yakupov would be worth Spurgeon.
- Dangles13

Yeah the Wild have to cut some salary but that deal doesn't save them alot of money.

Would it though? Anyone open to moving a legit top pairing Dman is likely looking for some level of cap relief.

Let's take Chicago as an example; if I'm gonna move out an established, high quality Dman like Seabrook, it's because I couldn't find the right deal for either of Sharp or Crawford. Once that condition is met, it also needs to be understood that any deal needs to have multiple lower priced, high upside pieces coming back as clearing cap space while remaining competitive needs to be the end game.

Considering that, which package do you think Chicago would prefer?

Eberle for Seabrook (perhaps another cap dump like Bickell)
or
Yakupov+ Marincin+ a 2nd in 2015

(Side note: these aren't trades I do so much as examples of types of trades that would happen)

Now one other question; which other teams would have the means to trade away a top pair Dman? As far as I can see it's the Rangers, the Hawks, and maybe one of the Canucks, the Sharks, or the Lightning- depending upon your opinions of Edler, Hamhuis, Braun, Carle, and Coburn.
- MaximumBone

I doubt we'd trade Braun unless we get back a better defender to replace him.....so highly unlikely.

I'd still be fine with him starting off with 2nd pairing time as I doubt we fill the appropriate amount of holes to push him that far down. Still curious to see if he can grow his game enough to fill such a role and- contrary to most others- don't think he's peaked yet. I do, however, understand those who believe different.
- MaximumBone

I don't think it's a coincidence that he really picked up his game when he started playing with Klefbom. Who has he played with his entire career? A mix of Ference and Nick Schultz and that is a poorly conceived recipe.

Yes, Schultz is still a valuable asset. How many teams would like to have a player capable of scoring 30+ points from the back end?

The only reason I brought up trading him is because he needs to be better insulated and if the Oilers cannot insulate him then it might be better to get a more established guy if they can.
- Dangles13

Do you trade him for the sake of trading him or hold onto him and see what happens? What about if you put him with the best dman we can get and he still poops the bed?

My Jultz hate is strong. But I still try to look at his roster spot objectively.

I don't think it's a coincidence that he really picked up his game when he started playing with Klefbom. Who has he played with his entire career? A mix of Ference and Nick Schultz and that is a poorly conceived recipe.
- Dangles13

I'm on board with running Klef/Jultz as the second pairing, providing we do address the first pairing.

Fingers crossed Nurse doesn't get teamed with Jultz!

Fair enough, i guess it would really depend on the dynamics of the team we're trading with.

on the 2nd question, I think we would need to look on teams on the verge of a rebuild, you suggested Van, I would throw in SJS as well, maybe even a Detroit.
- SpoiledByOil

What would you give up for a Wingels or Nieto? To me those 2 are our biggest trade chips this offseason.

Do you trade him for the sake of trading him or hold onto him and see what happens? What about if you put him with the best dman we can get and he still poops the bed?

My Jultz hate is strong. But I still try to look at his roster spot objectively.
- ChetManly

If you look at his underlying numbers he actually posts solid metrics when playing apart from Ference and Nick Schultz. Only Klefbom and Marincin have actually boosted his metrics, give him a competent partner and let him grow.

Do you trade him for the sake of trading him or hold onto him and see what happens? What about if you put him with the best dman we can get and he still poops the bed?

My Jultz hate is strong. But I still try to look at his roster spot objectively.
- ChetManly

The problem is what we have to pay Jultz to keep him. He would probably thrive on a team with a deep blueline.

What if Pittsburgh sent us Letang with a little reatianed salary for Jultz and say there 1st back.

No go on either unless Seabrook signed an extension
- LittleRicky

Hence my disclaimer under those trades

What would you give up for a Wingels or Nieto? To me those 2 are our biggest trade chips this offseason.
- SJSharks39

Nieto is ew...

I don't think it's a coincidence that he really picked up his game when he started playing with Klefbom. Who has he played with his entire career? A mix of Ference and Nick Schultz and that is a poorly conceived recipe.
- Dangles13

Exactly! Sure he still made bone-headed mistakes and miscues but, as with the rest of the roster, who's to say those aren't just as much a product of having played surrounded by chaos his whole NHL career? When the partners you're brought into the league playing alongside is a pair of #5 Dmen, I think you're bound to pick up a few bad habits.

I know I can relate to getting caught up in chaos whenever I play roadie with and against a bunch of older and more experienced people I'm unfamiliar with. Familiarity and quality of teammates is about the only thing that can tame chaos and maybe he can find that in Klefbom.

Exactly! Sure he still made bone-headed mistakes and miscues but, as with the rest of the roster, who's to say those aren't just as much a product of having played surrounded by chaos his whole NHL career? When the partners you're brought into the league playing alongside is a pair of #5 Dmen, I think you're bound to pick up a few bad habits.

I know I can relate to getting caught up in chaos whenever I play roadie with and against a bunch of older and more experienced people I'm unfamiliar with. Familiarity and quality of teammates is about the only thing that can tame chaos and maybe he can find that in Klefbom.
- MaximumBone

Well to be fair to Edmonton they did bring in Nikitin to play with Schultz....

Well to be fair to Edmonton they did bring in Nikitin to play with Schultz....
- Dangles13

Nikitin has to go.... its a must

McDavid isn’t even officially Oilers property but barring a Pete Chiarelli mental breakdown, he will be.
I found that very funny

On McDavid coming to turn around the franchise... agree 100%, it's for real. And the city and the TRUE fans that have been here deserve it.

Things have moved so fast - and I agree with the assessment that Nurse and McDavid are the best forward and Dman in the CHL - but how about Peter Chiarelli. A year ago him, Holland, Bowman, and lombardi would be part of an untouchable list of managers. This is all great news for the Oilers.

I'd like to see a 3 way deal between Ottawa and Nashville. It would see Seth Jones and Robin Lehner landing in Edmonton with one or two forwards+ going out (not McDavid and 1 other untouchable)
who would be the next person on YOUR untouchable list?

What would you give up for a Wingels or Nieto? To me those 2 are our biggest trade chips this offseason.
- SJSharks39

I'd be hesitant to give you much for either, but Wingels is one Id lean towards. My offer would be Purcell $1.5 mil retained and a 2016 3rd.

Goon 2.

http://www.hollywoodrepor...direct-goon-sequel-795932

Nieto is ew...


- Dangles13

Nieto's a good player bro very high possession player can play either wing spot & also the pk. Would be a solid 3rd line player.

If you look at his underlying numbers he actually posts solid metrics when playing apart from Ference and Nick Schultz. Only Klefbom and Marincin have actually boosted his metrics, give him a competent partner and let him grow.
- Dangles13

I think it's when he jultz's, he jultz's hard. Plus the too large of TOI is a big issue to me.

On this subject, the metric Marincin puts up are good, so why isn't he identified as talent?

Nikitin has to go.... its a must
- LittleRicky

The thing is I'd rather have him instead of Ference for his ability to play on the power play. I would also rather only have him making 1.5 million but....

McDavid isn’t even officially Oilers property but barring a Pete Chiarelli mental breakdown, he will be.
I found that very funny

On McDavid coming to turn around the franchise... agree 100%, it's for real. And the city and the TRUE fans that have been here deserve it.

Things have moved so fast - and I agree with the assessment that Nurse and McDavid are the best forward and Dman in the CHL - but how about Peter Chiarelli. A year ago him, Holland, Bowman, and lombardi would be part of an untouchable list of managers. This is all great news for the Oilers.

I'd like to see a 3 way deal between Ottawa and Nashville. It would see Seth Jones and Robin Lehner landing in Edmonton with one or two forwards+ going out (not McDavid and 1 other untouchable)
who would be the next person on YOUR untouchable list?
- AlfieisKing

No.