- ChetManly

never got passed the pebble ripple phase
- gzatron

that would make me drink more.

- Dangles13

Far and away I trade Eberle. It seems most media member like him as a player more than hall based on international success. Hall is far and away our best player, although likely not when mcdavid comes to town.
- CrustyRooster

Hall is certainly our best player.
But I don't think this makes eberle expendable all of a sudden.

He's our truest sniper and yaks has certainly not proven he's good enough to assume he can make enough impact where we throw a much lesser guy as our 2rw.
Eberle is far and away the superior scorer right now.

People were chirping about ebs early in the season and he ended up being our leading scorer, most dangerous offensive threat and one if the leagues leaders in the 2nd half.

You trade him before yaks proves he can put up serious numbers, and you essentially change our top 6 rw from a position of semi strength to a position of weakness before a game is even played

Hall is certainly our best player.
But I don't think this makes eberle expendable all of a sudden.

He's our truest sniper and yaks has certainly not proven he's good enough to assume he can make enough impact where we throw a much lesser guy as our 2rw.
Eberle is far and away the superior scorer right now.

People were chirping about ebs early in the season and he ended up being our leading scorer, most dangerous offensive threat and one if the leagues leaders in the 2nd half.

You trade him before yaks proves he can put up serious numbers, and you essentially change our top 6 rw from a position of semi strength to a position of weakness before a game is even played
- Ihateallofu

Thank you for pointing this out. Not many people seem to realize this.

Hall is certainly our best player.
But I don't think this makes eberle expendable all of a sudden.

He's our truest sniper and yaks has certainly not proven he's good enough to assume he can make enough impact where we throw a much lesser guy as our 2rw.
Eberle is far and away the superior scorer right now.

People were chirping about ebs early in the season and he ended up being our leading scorer, most dangerous offensive threat and one if the leagues leaders in the 2nd half.

You trade him before yaks proves he can put up serious numbers, and you essentially change our top 6 rw from a position of semi strength to a position of weakness before a game is even played
- Ihateallofu

Eberle is lazy and that doesn't help his case, he goes through stretches where he just floats around. Depending on how free agency shakes out I would say the Oilers really aren't in a position to trade anything beyond picks.

Eberle is lazy and that doesn't help his case, he goes through stretches where he just floats around. Depending on how free agency shakes out I would say the Oilers really aren't in a position to trade anything beyond picks.
- Dangles13

Really ?

Thank you for pointing this out. Not many people seem to realize this.
- ChetManly

Everyone realizes this, most people just point out that if one of the core is going to be traded now, it probably won't be Yakupov because his value is so low. That's about it man.

Really ?
- LittleRicky

Obviously not all the time but he does have stretches where he only works hard if he has the puck, kind of like he's sick of losing and is pouting about it.

Eberle is lazy and that doesn't help his case, he goes through stretches where he just floats around. Depending on how free agency shakes out I would say the Oilers really aren't in a position to trade anything beyond picks.
- Dangles13

Eberle is always going to have stretches when he's ineffective. As do most snipers of his ilk. Whether some of that is due to laziness or not is debateable for sure.
I don't think it is personally. But more his his size, skill set, options etc.

But guys like him are extremely valuable. Hes supremely talented, and was our leading scorer and best player for half of the effing season. Deal him and we'd be in buffalo's echelon offensively last season.

We'll trade the guy and be desperate to find another one.

Until yaks scores 30, it would be a terrible move to deal eberle imo

Obviously not all the time but he does have stretches where he only works hard if he has the puck, kind of like he's sick of losing and is pouting about it.
- Dangles13

You could argue that Hall does the same.

Eberle is always going to have stretches when he's ineffective. As do most snipers if his ilk. Whether some of that is due to laziness or not is debateable for sure.
I don't think it is personally. It's his size, skill set, options etc.

But guys like him are extremely valuable. He was our leading scorer and best player for half if the effing season.

We'll trade the guy and be desperate to find another one.

Until yaks scores 30, it would be a terrible move to deal eberle imo
- Ihateallofu

I didn't mean that he's not a good player but most of the other young core are doing something even when they're not scoring. Eberle really came alive when Nelson took over, so maybe it's a motivation factor?

You could argue that Hall does the same.
- LittleRicky

Hall is almost always skating at full speed, he fore checks hard, he usually comes back and he's very noticeable. His defensive issues are mostly mental errors but he does have some lazy shifts where he coasts back.

You could argue that Hall does the same.
- LittleRicky

Absolutely.

Dangles description of 'without the puck-pouty' etc actually made me think of hall before I do eberle

I didn't mean that he's not a good player but most of the other young core are doing something even when they're not scoring. Eberle really came alive when Nelson took over, so maybe it's a motivation factor?
- Dangles13

I think hall is every bit as weak defensively or without the puck as eberle is

Absolutely.

Dangles description of 'without the puck-pouty' etc actually made me think of hall before I do eberle
- Ihateallofu

Anyone want to consider injuries and coaching into possible causes for said periods of "lazy"?

I think hall is every bit as weak defensively or without the puck as eberle is
- Ihateallofu

I'll side with this.

Everyone realizes this, most people just point out that if one of the core is going to be traded now, it probably won't be Yakupov because his value is so low. That's about it man.
- SpoiledByOil

But why? With the prospect pool and solid draft picks and other misc. players we have, clearly upgrades can be provided without creating a hole on the RW.

Trading Eberle would be stupid Oilers-era move. Drafted and developed player to be sent away.

Anyone want to consider injuries and coaching into possible causes for said periods of "lazy"?
- ChetManly

and all the losing

and all the losing
- LittleRicky

They sure do look to be having fun on Team Canada....

I think hall is every bit as weak defensively or without the puck as eberle is
- Ihateallofu

Yeah but I do think it comes more from him not knowing what to do, he over pursues quite often and he's not afraid to fly the zone early. Eberle actually seems to be in the right spot but is disinterested, maybe bored playing defence, I'm not really sure what I'm trying to say here.

Why did you all leave Tanner's blog?

Why did you all leave Tanner's blog?
- Horseguts

No one was talking.

They sure do look to be having fun on Team Canada....
- ChetManly

this

and they seem to like McLellan

But why? With the prospect pool and solid draft picks and other misc. players we have, clearly upgrades can be provided without creating a hole on the RW.

Trading Eberle would be stupid Oilers-era move. Drafted and developed player to be sent away.
- ChetManly

I'm not saying to trade him, just that he has more value than Yakupov if we were to trade him.

And if my goal is to fill that top pairing D from the trade, it'd be a hell of a lot easier creating a package around Eberle than Yakupov to do so.