SolidGoldBricks
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Location: Robidas Island, MI Joined: 10.30.2013
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Wow what a series this is gonna be! I am one of the few here in STL that had said from the beginning don't count out the Hawks! They are the team to beat. Kane or not they still are and were the team to beat. Yeah my Blues are the Cubs of hockey!
- ECBloosier
I wish that were the truth. |
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deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Montreal Joined: 07.01.2008
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Should be a good serie!
In the East, I only hope Mtl survives against Tampa. |
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nurk
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: City of Champions, PA Joined: 09.21.2006
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More stats that are not good for ANA.
Regular season giveaway/takeaway:
Anaheim: 745/479
Chicago: 634/593
Faceoff%:
Anaheim 51.6%
Chicago 52% (without Vermette) - John Jaeckel
wow, those faceoff percentages are really really close......why does that mean they aren't good for anaheim? |
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stp1978
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Washington, DC Joined: 10.22.2007
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wow, those faceoff percentages are really really close......why does that mean they aren't good for anaheim? - nurk
Vermette has been having a ton of success at the dot during his time in Chicago, and especially in the playoffs. Huge, huge help, especially later in games and when you need to win a defensive zone draw. |
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nurk
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: City of Champions, PA Joined: 09.21.2006
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Vermette has been having a ton of success at the dot during his time in Chicago, and especially in the playoffs. Huge, huge help, especially later in games and when you need to win a defensive zone draw. - stp1978
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. is that what he meant by (not with vermette). i still don't see how that impacts the ducks faceoff percentage. |
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blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Lake in the Hills, IL Joined: 06.06.2009
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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. is that what he meant by (not with vermette). i still don't see how that impacts the ducks faceoff percentage. - nurk
Umm, it will when they're facing off against him? No? |
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I know most people had the Hawks winning against the Preds...I also know that almost everyone had the Hawks Wild going 7, and some saying the Wild would win while others that the Hawks would win with some saying it is too close to call
I guess what I'm saying is it depends which Hawks team is going to show up,and which Crow is going to show up too...Ducks are an excellent team and shouldn't be thought of as weak because they had an easier path to the WCF...I also know that they don't have the D that the Preda do, nor a Suter type that the Wild do...but they have 2 superstar fwds in Getzlaf and Perry plus Kesler
One thing that worries me is did Kane possibly play his best already against the Wild? Is it realistic for Hawks fans to think he can keep tearing up any team that comes along? Hawks are gonna need even more depth scoring this round-Shaw,Bickell,Vermette,Teravainen are all going to need to step it up, and the D is going to need to be top notch now with Rozy gone....ugh not feeling good |
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stp1978
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Washington, DC Joined: 10.22.2007
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. is that what he meant by (not with vermette). i still don't see how that impacts the ducks faceoff percentage. - nurk
Something's going to have to give when both teams have season percentages over 50%, right? Meaning, JJ thinks the Hawks are going to have a slight advantage over the Ducks at the dot over the course of the series.
Anaheim has the same guys taking draws as they did all year. Chicago has added Vermette, and he's been pretty strong at faceoffs. For a puck possession team like the Hawks, winning a majority of the draws is a precursor to success. |
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blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Lake in the Hills, IL Joined: 06.06.2009
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nurk
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: City of Champions, PA Joined: 09.21.2006
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Umm, it will when they're facing off against him? No? - John Jaeckel
and the blackhawks faceoff men will be impacted by the ducks guys that went 51.4%. No? |
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yzermaneely
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: Poway, CA Joined: 12.17.2011
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Problem with that theory:
Janaury 30, Honda Center, Chicago, 4-1. Anaheim defense:
Fowler
Beauchemin
Lindholm
Stoner
Lovejoy
Vatanen - John Jaeckel
That's not the problem with my theory. The October 28 game had the same defensive lineup, but Lovejoy was out for Fistric. That's not exactly an upgrade. Now they'll be playing with the same lineup substituting Despres. That's an upgrade over Fistric.
Like I said, I see the Blackhawks taking this series in 6 barring a major injury. I had these two teams in my bracket, and I had Chicago taking it. But Dubnyk was a paper tiger. The Nashville win was impressive. But without their best player, Shea Weber, for the last 4+ games, I'm not sure what it says.
This I know: This series will be worth watching. You'll see me there Friday night. |
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Every time the Habs lose in the playoffs I tune in online to 690 TSN radio postgame to make my evening. They are on for about 4 hours skewering Coach Therrien, his mother, his ex-wife, the team's bad luck, the anti Montreal referees, Gary Bettman etc. It's hilarious.
When they win a game, its unbearable listening to them.
- RickJ
In regards to your Hab post of earlier. Who is Courneyor? Cause that little SOB gave the Hawks fits. |
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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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Umm, it will when they're facing off against him? No? - John Jaeckel
Also read the blog, I don't know who's gonna win more draws in this series. I do know that odds are Anaheim won't win 55%, like they did in rounds 1 and 2, not against Toews, Kruger and Vermette. At least, I don't think so.
Vermette's been an absolute machine in the dot.
And that's the gist of it. The puck possession numbers (regular seasons and playoffs at least as far as giveaway/takeaway) favor Chicago—and when that's the case, they usually win. |
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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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That's not the problem with my theory. The October 28 game had the same defensive lineup, but Lovejoy was out for Fistric. That's not exactly an upgrade. Now they'll be playing with the same lineup substituting Despres. That's an upgrade over Fistric.
Like I said, I see the Blackhawks taking this series in 6 barring a major injury. I had these two teams in my bracket, and I had Chicago taking it. But Dubnyk was a paper tiger. The Nashville win was impressive. But without their best player, Shea Weber, for the last 4+ games, I'm not sure what it says.
This I know: This series will be worth watching. You'll see me there Friday night. - yzermaneely
I think these are very fair-minded, accurate comments. |
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Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Wild Wild West, IL Joined: 06.29.2014
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and the blackhawks faceoff men will be impacted by the ducks guys that went 51.4%. No? - nurk
The percentage for the Hawks doesn't include Vermette's uber dominant roughly 70% win rate over the last round.
EDIT: and what JJ said. |
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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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and the blackhawks faceoff men will be impacted by the ducks guys that went 51.4%. No? - nurk
Sure. See my comment above.
And then go back to the original post. nothing like pulling out one sat (of three) to go after.
The takeaway/giveaway numbers strongly favor Chicago (regular season and playoff). The face-off numbers are slightly in favor of Chicago, regular season without a really good face-off guy for most of the season. Taken together (as they were presented together) it indicates a possession advantage for a team that plays a puck possession style. |
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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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and the blackhawks faceoff men will be impacted by the ducks guys that went 51.4%. No? - nurk
Oh, you might want to check out Crawford's numbers versus the Ducks this year and Andersen's versus Chicago. Just . . . because. |
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Wouldn't it be funny though if 15 of Rundblad's "+18" differential was he stepped on the ice 2 seconds before the 'Hawks scored? - blackhawk24
The real concern for me regarding Rundblad at the moment is he really struggles after long layoffs.
Say a couple of stories that said he was working hard in practice trying to stay ready. Says something that Q came right out and ended a lot of speculation by naming him fairly early on.
He just needs to be serviceable. Not great. He is surrounded by experienced vets. 2 of which are his countrymen. That can't do anything but help the kid. IMHO. |
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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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I know most people had the Hawks winning against the Preds...I also know that almost everyone had the Hawks Wild going 7, and some saying the Wild would win while others that the Hawks would win with some saying it is too close to call
I guess what I'm saying is it depends which Hawks team is going to show up,and which Crow is going to show up too...Ducks are an excellent team and shouldn't be thought of as weak because they had an easier path to the WCF...I also know that they don't have the D that the Preda do, nor a Suter type that the Wild do...but they have 2 superstar fwds in Getzlaf and Perry plus Kesler
One thing that worries me is did Kane possibly play his best already against the Wild? Is it realistic for Hawks fans to think he can keep tearing up any team that comes along? Hawks are gonna need even more depth scoring this round-Shaw,Bickell,Vermette,Teravainen are all going to need to step it up, and the D is going to need to be top notch now with Rozy gone....ugh not feeling good - captainserious
I think Kane might run wild this series. He's rested, his line is clicking. His track record versus ANA this season is very strong. |
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nurk
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: City of Champions, PA Joined: 09.21.2006
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Oh, you might want to check out Crawford's numbers versus the Ducks this year and Andersen's versus Chicago. Just . . . because. - John Jaeckel
wait, crawford and anderson took faceoffs vs each other in the regular season?
when was this? |
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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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i used facts. sorry - nurk
Yeah, so did I, you conveniently chose to misinterpret them to suit the purpose of being a troll and a troublemaker. And to add an insult that was entirely unnecessary.
See where that gets ya. |
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Canardhawk
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Mt. Pilot, NC Joined: 02.13.2014
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wait, crawford and anderson took faceoffs vs each other in the regular season?
when was this? - nurk
Bye Nurk. |
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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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wait, crawford and anderson took faceoffs vs each other in the regular season?
when was this? - nurk
Fredrik Andersen is the Ducks goalie, not Craig Anderson, Dr. FactCheckerdude.
See what I did there? |
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Also read the blog, I don't know who's gonna win more draws in this series. I do know that odds are Anaheim won't win 55%, like they did in rounds 1 and 2, not against Toews, Kruger and Vermette. At least, I don't think so.
Vermette's been an absolute machine in the dot.
And that's the gist of it. The puck possession numbers (regular seasons and playoffs at least as far as giveaway/takeaway) favor Chicago—and when that's the case, they usually win. - John Jaeckel
Calgary and Winnipeg also not good faceoff teams like CHI
Calgarys two best faceoff men - Colborne at 52.4% and Stajan at 50.3%
WPGs two best faceoff men - Slater at 59.4% and Perreault at 51.6%
CHI has 3 guys better than Calgarys best guy and 3 guys better than WPGs second best guy in Vermette, Toews, and Kruger
Oh yea, and Shaw finished the year at 50.1% if need be |
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