Down the middle I think the Hawks are going to suffer badly - 1) Richards wouldn't even make the top 12 in Ana - and 2) Kesler is going to smoke him or Vermette no problem - top lines a wash - 2nd line Ana - 3rd lines - if Rikard Rikel doesn't get it together- ducks are going to have Thompson there with Fleishmann on the 4th ctr - the advantage I see the Hawks having is on the wings - 3) Hoss -, Kane, Sharp to a degree Saad - slight edge over Cogs / Silverberg / Belesky / Maroon - the key for Ana is don't let Keith dictate the pace and flow or they are in trouble.... much easier said than done - the other D are manageable - also the turnovers that the flames didn't capitalize on are going to be goals in this series - must play better in their own end - Lindholm / Vatanan/Fowler if rushing on the counterattach will cause the Hawks problems - 4) I like Anderson over Crawford but just by a hair - no real difference - Ducks in 7 - dozerD10
Give me what's he's smoking. I need a full-on delusional reality this morning.
Point by point (courtesy of NHL league statistics—you might want to actually look at it before hitting the keystrokes).
1) Ha, please. Richards would be tied for 5th in overall scoring on the Ducks, and 6th among forwards in +/-.
2) Kesler has an advantage over Richards in the dot. But not Vermette. That is just . . . not smart.
3) "Slight advantage" to Chicago???? 2 Hall of Famers, the other 2 had more points this year than any of the wings you mention. So, no, sorry, huge advantage.
4) Check out how Andersen did against the Hawks this year and Crawford against the Ducks. Not to mention their overall season numbers. And, oh yeah, there's that Stanley Cup with Crawford's name on it.
That is nice - smoke may have been the wrong wording - hammer,crush, demo, Kes is going to dominate either of those guys - and Hawks 3rd and 4th ctrs are weak - ducks in 7 - - dozerD10
Yeah, Kruger is weak. Try watching some hockey without the Ducks in the game sometime.
I mean if you're going to make comparisons, fine, have some facts and statistics. This is just smack talk crap and makes you look not very informed. At all.
Cant wait...Anaheim is going to check that collar bone closely - rubberduckies
Yeah, because it worked so well for Nashville and Minnesota. Can't hit what ya can't catch, Pallie. (that was for you, CB)
What is really disappointing so far is there is only one Ducks fan who's come on here who actually knows what he's talking about. The rest of this is almost laughably stupid.
Yeah, well, ask Stoner what Shaw's hits feel like.
Bickell had 30 hits in 3 games versus Minnesota, and guess what, hiss leave some marks. Dude, you really need to start watching hockey before 8PM Pacific time, that's really all I can say.
Ducks will have a lot of hits, because they'll be chasing the puck all series (see giveaway, takeaway AND face-off stats).
Rotsa Ruck. Freddie better have a horseshoe in his pads. He'll need it. Especially with a save% under 9 versus Chicago this year.
For the poster on here who beats the drum for better enforcement of interference and stemming the tide of the return of clutch and grab hockey (sorry but can't remember who it is exactly but I've been paying attention and you make great points) - read the Penguins blog up this morning. The NHLPA agrees with you!
Link: http://www.hockeybuzz.com...ds-More-Scoring/177/68586
The Hawks are damn good team very formidable opponent this is going to be a phenomenal series a couple of quick points-
How much do the ducks d men jump into the play- and if they do how effective is the hawks counterattack off the rush-
Can the Hawks get the puck out of their own zone and survive huge cycles short of Keith and Seabrook-I don't see their other pairs handling that get well. - - dozerD10
Honestly, have you ever actually watched Niklas Hjalmarsson play? You haven't watched Kruger. Or you failed to comprehend what you saw. Dunno.
So it would follow you literally know nothing about the players you're talking about.
The defense that has all the matchup issues is Anaheim's. Here's a newsflash for you:
That's not an opinion. It is a widely accepted fact. Beauchemin is an average second pairing defenseman on most good NHL teams. Not a bad player. A good player. But can be beaten wide and probably the 4th defenseman on Chicago.
So who has the matchup problems? Because the other team has some great forwards who can absolutely fly.
Just want to reiterate that I am hearing the various hockey experts calling the upcoming Anaheim Ducks - Chicago Blackhawks matches the “series of the ages” and “classic playoff hockey.”
The conference schedule would start Thursday 8:15 if the Lightning win, and Sunday afternoon if the Habs extend it since the Ducks Honda center is booked Friday and Saturday, but the cancelled the Friday venue I have been told, so if Habs win Friday then Sunday there.
Rotsa Ruck. Freddie better have a horseshoe in his pads. He'll need it. Especially with a save% under 9 versus Chicago this year. - John Jaeckel
Stoner WAS a beast against hawks a year ago with the Wild. i was surprised they let him go, but the Cap hastens bad decisions.
I told this to our Capatin Serious in a private message a few days ago:
The Ducks Danish goalie has for two years been prone to (while the opponent is moves the possession eats to west) putting his weight on one foot/skate and then can't go back to the post side very well. It is not a little thing, he does it far too much, and if any team can capitalize on it, it is him.
Just want to reiterate that I am hearing the various hockey experts calling the upcoming Anaheim Ducks - Chicago Blackhawks matches the “series of the ages” and “classic playoff hockey.”
The conference schedule would start Thursday 8:15 if the Lightning win, and Sunday afternoon if the Habs extend it since the Ducks Honda center is booked Friday and Saturday, but the cancelled the Friday venue I have been told, so if Habs win Friday then Sunday there. - wiz1901
Hawks in 6.
Should be a tough series. But the Hawks have some advantages. All that changes if there is another injury on D or Rundblad really poops the bed.
The series of the ages, methinks, was last year's WCF. Will be hard to equal or top that.
Every Blackhawk star midline or bottom end player just has to make the smartest decisions from sticking withe plan and placing the disk where they want it, where they have their sticks, how disciplined they are in their engagements, and elevating every inch of their abilities ot win.
The same goes with Bruce's guys.
I have read all the position and stats breakdowns and I think it is much simpler than all that, it is what i typed above and it is the play against the new Gordie Howe.
Gordie was simply hated mostly because just was the dirtiest and biggest SOB and made space for his line and himself and if the opposition gave ground he took more.
For years I have heard that if you took a player poll, this guys wins as biggest dirty arse, most hated.
For his credit he jams you, your netminder, and has no qualms throwing you off and never seesm to quit.
The Hawks are a seasoned bunch and with have to contend instead of answering when the zebras are letting "the quest for goals, big plays and scoring" go on with blinders to offense interference.
I have ultra respect for the tought Getzlaf, even Kesler, but Perry leaves me hating him but also wanting him on any team I have.
I think that is the major elephant that has to get not necessarily shot and bagged just stopped and made frustrated to the point he gets even dirtier and there is no recousre but to call him on it.
The series of the ages, methinks, was last year's WCF. Will be hard to equal or top that. - John Jaeckel
Me too. I watched twice since last year, and as much as some thought the hawks were outmatched, it was the real Stanley Cup and I gotta believe every guy from that series in a hawk sweater hasn't forgotten or wants to let this next chance to the dance slip through their fingers...
dozerD10 : I know I refuse to get in some whizzing match with you now...pointless because you are only puff YOUR hockey feathers as a homer for your team, and I have been there amny a time in my youth.
You will find that on this board most posters are willing to discuss what happened AFTER an actual game.
So I certainly hope you return after each game and actually discuss the true events that transpired not the projected future match-ups, because it is silly, pointless, and fruitless, for you and us.
Just want to reiterate that I am hearing the various hockey experts calling the upcoming Anaheim Ducks - Chicago Blackhawks matches the “series of the ages” and “classic playoff hockey.”
The conference schedule would start Thursday 8:15 if the Lightning win, and Sunday afternoon if the Habs extend it since the Ducks Honda center is booked Friday and Saturday, but the cancelled the Friday venue I have been told, so if Habs win Friday then Sunday there. - wiz1901
I've heard that Series for the Ages and frankly don't get it. Ducks haven't been here since 2007. If LA made it again then maybe.
Every Blackhawk star midline or bottom end player just has to make the smartest decisions from sticking withe plan and placing the disk where they want it, where they have their sticks, how disciplined they are in their engagements, and elevating every inch of their abilities ot win.
The same goes with Bruce's guys.
I have read all the position and stats breakdowns and I think it is much simpler than all that, it is what i typed above and it is the play against the new Gordie Howe.
Gordie was simply hated mostly because just was the dirtiest and biggest SOB and made space for his line and himself and if the opposition gave ground he took more.
For years I have heard that if you took a player poll, this guys wins as biggest dirty arse, most hated.
For his credit he jams you, your netminder, and has no qualms throwing you off and never seesm to quit.
The Hawks are a seasoned bunch and with have to contend instead of answering when the zebras are letting "the quest for goals, big plays and scoring" go on with blinders to offense interference.
I have ultra respect for the tought Getzlaf, even Kesler, but Perry leaves me hating him but also wanting him on any team I have.
I think that is the major elephant that has to get not necessarily shot and bagged just stopped and made frustrated to the point he gets even dirtier and there is no recousre but to call him on it. - wiz1901
A major key to winning the series will be how much down low time the Ducks can get in the Hawks zone. If it is a lot, they will take a large pound of flesh out of the Hawks defence group over multiple games. And Corey Perry is the best pure goal scorer from around and inside the paint in the NHL.
The way to frustrate the hell out of Perry is to make him skate hard and a lot without touching the puck and when he does get it have Hoss on him immediately. Shaw or Bickell belting him a couple of times wouldn't hurt either.
That's not an opinion. It is a widely accepted fact. Beauchemin is an average second pairing defenseman on most good NHL teams. Not a bad player. A good player. But can be beaten wide and probably the 4th defenseman on Chicago.
So who has the matchup problems? Because the other team has some great forwards who can absolutely fly. - John Jaeckel
The Hawks are strong team I think maybe you haven't seen the ducks play I know it's late for you but don't give up your day job as a PR hack for your hometown hero Obama-Cogliano and Silverberg can fly belesky is going to be a very hard matchup for Hawks -The ducks cycle is going to cause problems- The Hawks are going to be hit the series I don't think there is one body check thrown in the first two series winnipeg owned the Hawks this yr - ducks owned Winnipeg - it's not a perfect correlation but the formula is the same for beating the Hawks - and Kessler will own vermette - Stoner had a very good series against Hawks last yr - going to be a very interesting Series still say ducks in seven
dozerD10 : I know I refuse to get in some whizzing match with you now...pointless because you are only puff YOUR hockey feathers as a homer for your team, and I have been there amny a time in my youth.
You will find that on this board most posters are willing to discuss what happened AFTER an actual game.
So I certainly hope you return after each game and actually discuss the true events that transpired not the projected future match-ups, because it is silly, pointless, and fruitless, for you and us. - wiz1901
I totally look forward to it - I based my analysis on watching fellas-The ducks haven't faced a team like the Hawks but the same is also true Nashville & Minnesota are not even the same league as the ducks - Winnipeg gave the hawks all kinds of trouble -ducks owned Winnipeg - going to use that same blueprint ~ The hawks second pair is going to get hit not sure how they're going to hold up - not predicting a blowout but I think the ducks and seven-
Give me what's he's smoking. I need a full-on delusional reality this morning.
Point by point (courtesy of NHL league statistics—you might want to actually look at it before hitting the keystrokes).
1) Ha, please. Richards would be tied for 5th in overall scoring on the Ducks, and 6th among forwards in +/-.
2) Kesler has an advantage over Richards in the dot. But not Vermette. That is just . . . not smart.
3) "Slight advantage" to Chicago???? 2 Hall of Famers, the other 2 had more points this year than any of the wings you mention. So, no, sorry, huge advantage.
4) Check out how Andersen did against the Hawks this year and Crawford against the Ducks. Not to mention their overall season numbers. And, oh yeah, there's that Stanley Cup with Crawford's name on it.
Good lord. - John Jaeckel
Too many Ducts fans here are drinking the kool-aid of all the praise they received of dismantling far inferior opponents in WPG and CGY
The Hawks are strong team I think maybe you haven't seen the ducks play I know it's late for you but don't give up your day job as a PR hack for your hometown hero Obama-Cogliano and Silverberg can fly belesky is going to be a very hard matchup for Hawks -The ducks cycle is going to cause problems- The Hawks are going to be hit the series I don't think there is one body check thrown in the first two series winnipeg owned the Hawks this yr - ducks owned Winnipeg - it's not a perfect correlation but the formula is the same for beating the Hawks - and Kessler will own vermette - Stoner had a very good series against Hawks last yr - going to be a very interesting Series still say ducks in seven - dozerD10
You are the gift that keeps on giving.
So I'm a PR hack for Obama? I would report this post, but I am really hoping for more.
You're right.
No one hit the Hawks in the first two rounds. And the Hawks can't deliver hits.
When Shaw knocked Big Bad Stoner out of the playoffs in 2013, he did it with magical fairy dust. Did ya happen to see that? No. Who am I kidding? The Ducks weren't in the playoffs, so you stopped watching.
Kane will stand still and wait for the Ducks awesome he-men forwards and a slowish defenseman like Beauchemin to hit him.
Although the Hawks were 2-1 versus the Ducks (and outscored them 8-3), the "math" of Winnipeg makes so much more sense.
When you're grasping for straws. when you are a homer who literally has no understanding of hockey outside Orange County.
[quote=wiz1901]dozerD10 : I know I refuse to get in some whizzing match with you now...pointless because you are only puff YOUR hockey feathers as a homer for your team, and I have been there amny a time in my youth.
You will find that on this board most posters are willing to discuss what happened AFTER an actual game.
So I certainly hope you return after each game and actually discuss the true events that transpired not the projected future match-ups, because it is silly, pointless, and fruitless, for you and us. - dozerD10[/quote
I totally look forward to it - I based my analysis on watching fellas-The ducks haven't faced a team like the Hawks but the same is also true Nashville & Minnesota are not even the same league as the ducks - Winnipeg gave the hawks all kinds of trouble -ducks owned Winnipeg - going to use that same blueprint ~ The hawks second pair is going to get hit not sure how they're going to hold up - not predicting a blowout but I think the ducks and seven-
Dude,
The Hawks second pair>> Ducks first pair
Fact.
And they have been hit before and responded just fine.
Seriously. Niklas Hjalmarsson is a #1D on the Ducks.
The Hawks are strong team I think maybe you haven't seen the ducks play I know it's late for you but don't give up your day job as a PR hack for your hometown hero Obama-Cogliano and Silverberg can fly belesky is going to be a very hard matchup for Hawks -The ducks cycle is going to cause problems- The Hawks are going to be hit the series I don't think there is one body check thrown in the first two series winnipeg owned the Hawks this yr - ducks owned Winnipeg - it's not a perfect correlation but the formula is the same for beating the Hawks - and Kessler will own vermette - Stoner had a very good series against Hawks last yr - going to be a very interesting Series still say ducks in seven - dozerD10
Based on what?
Kesssssler likely wont even be matching up against Vermette.
Kesler will almost certainly be deployed against Richards or Toews 95% of the time
I dont really think you understand how these matchups will play out
I know most people had the Hawks winning against the Preds...I also know that almost everyone had the Hawks Wild going 7, and some saying the Wild would win while others that the Hawks would win with some saying it is too close to call
I guess what I'm saying is it depends which Hawks team is going to show up,and which Crow is going to show up too...Ducks are an excellent team and shouldn't be thought of as weak because they had an easier path to the WCF...I also know that they don't have the D that the Preda do, nor a Suter type that the Wild do...but they have 2 superstar fwds in Getzlaf and Perry plus Kesler
One thing that worries me is did Kane possibly play his best already against the Wild? Is it realistic for Hawks fans to think he can keep tearing up any team that comes along? Hawks are gonna need even more depth scoring this round-Shaw,Bickell,Vermette,Teravainen are all going to need to step it up, and the D is going to need to be top notch now with Rozy gone....ugh not feeling good - captainserious
You might see some of this when your big bad forwards come looking for bodies to bang. That's one of those second pairing defensemen who aren't prepared for hitting.
I will also guarantee you Bryan Bickell ALONE averages about 8 hits a game. Since you're not interested in the actual event summaries form the first two rounds—that's about what he averaged through the first two rounds. Ask Niklas Kronwall (who Bickell destroyed in round 2 2013), Matt Dumba (who flinched every time Bickell got on the ice after Game 2), and Ryan Ellis how it feels.
