sean Payton must be going insane he got a season and nothing for bill belichick!!!
- Therat36

The sean Payton must be going insane he got a season and nothing for bill belichick!!!
- Therat36

im 50 50 on that. A player can get away with things behind a coaches back. Ive never played the sport so id not know. JV would prob be a good guy to ask to see how much a coach at a high level would have on things like that. As much as he may not have anythign direct with them id think hed know.

But it shows that things off the field effect your suspension more than the actual games being played. Also form what ive seen I think they are only going after them for the AFC champ game and nothing before hand

im 50 50 on that. A player can get away with things behind a coaches back. Ive never played the sport so id not know. JV would prob be a good guy to ask to see how much a coach at a high level would have on things like that. As much as he may not have anythign direct with them id think hed know.

But it shows that things off the field effect your suspension more than the actual games being played. Also form what ive seen I think they are only going after them for the AFC champ game and nothing before hand
- hubie

This whole thing is stupid. I can't stand New England, but this is nothing more than the NFL having to save face in front of the court of public opinion, which seems to be influenced by Chicken Little more and more every single day.

This whole thing is stupid. I can't stand New England, but this is nothing more than the NFL having to save face in front of the court of public opinion, which seems to be influenced by Chicken Little more and more every single day.
- buffalofan19

(frank) the Pats.

This whole thing is stupid. I can't stand New England, but this is nothing more than the NFL having to save face in front of the court of public opinion, which seems to be influenced by Chicken Little more and more every single day.
- buffalofan19

If you are going to cheat, don't get caught. This isn't the 1st time they have been caught.

They obviously felt the team was culpable as well with the draft pick being taken away +fine

If you are going to cheat, don't get caught. This isn't the 1st time they have been caught.

They obviously felt the team was culpable as well with the draft pick being taken away +fine
- sbroads24

They did this to appease the court of public opinion, nothing more.

I don't feel so bad for New England so much as I'm embarrassed for society that this is even an issue.

They did this to appease the court of public opinion, nothing more.

I don't feel so bad for New England so much as I'm embarrassed for society that this is even an issue.
- buffalofan19

Play by the rules, then.

In sport, and in society.

If you don't, pay the consequences.

They did this to appease the court of public opinion, nothing more.

I don't feel so bad for New England so much as I'm embarrassed for society that this is even an issue.
- buffalofan19

Really? Why do you say that ?

You don't think if it was Zach Mettenberger and Tennessee there would still be a suspension?

It was an NFL playoff game and they were caught tampering with equipment.

New Orleans Saints lost a coach for an entire year due to what happened on his watch

Really? Why do you say that ?

You don't think if it was Zach Mettenberger and Tennessee there would still be a suspension?

It was an NFL playoff game and they were caught tampering with equipment.

New Orleans Saints lost a coach for an entire year due to what happened on his watch
- sbroads24

No, I don't, and if it did, the punishment definitely wouldn't be this harsh.

And what the Saints did was far, far worse, and that includes the fact that Brady lied about it.

No, I don't, and if it did, the punishment definitely wouldn't be this harsh.

And what the Saints did was far, far worse, and that includes the fact that Brady lied about it.
- buffalofan19

It's not harsh. Tom Brady lied to an investigator and didn't cooperate....then it was found he more than likely was well aware of the tampering. He has no one to blame but himself.

Really? Why do you say that ?

You don't think if it was Zach Mettenberger and Tennessee there would still be a suspension?

It was an NFL playoff game and they were caught tampering with equipment.

New Orleans Saints lost a coach for an entire year due to what happened on his watch
- sbroads24

Did the Colts get into trouble for deflating also or was it just the Pats?

It's not harsh. Tom Brady lied to an investigator and didn't cooperate....then it was found he more than likely was well aware of the tampering. He has no one to blame but himself.
- sbroads24

The fact that the punishment is based on "more likely than not" and not "beyond a shadow of a doubt" is the problem here.

The fact that the punishment is based on "more likely than not" and not "beyond a shadow of a doubt" is the problem here.
- buffalofan19

Not really, this isn't a court of law, it's the NFL.

They are an employer, not the police.

Did the Colts get into trouble for deflating also or was it just the Pats?
- jochfr

They should deflate Oprah

They should deflate Oprah
- SABRES 89

Racist !

I just wish the whole cheating in sports thing would just go away. I used to love baseball. Then big money and Sosa/McGwire and Bonds happened. It'll never be the same to me. Football is a bunch of convicts. At least with hockey, for the most part it's still clean. Sure there are some issues that pop up here and there but it's still respectable.

Eff the Pats. And eff the frigging Sen's.

Over under Hodgson scores 30 points next season
- TheSabresTaco

In the AHL or NHL

I just wish the whole cheating in sports thing would just go away. I used to love baseball. Then big money and Sosa/McGwire and Bonds happened. It'll never be the same to me. Football is a bunch of convicts. At least with hockey, for the most part it's still clean. Sure there are some issues that pop up here and there but it's still respectable.

Eff the Pats. And eff the frigging Sen's.
- Pairo11

I think the NHL needs to clean up it's on-ice rulings. The technology is totally there to make sure a puck crossed the line, offsides, etc. Why invest money when you don't have to i guess?.....

No, I don't, and if it did, the punishment definitely wouldn't be this harsh.

And what the Saints did was far, far worse, and that includes the fact that Brady lied about it.
- buffalofan19

I think its the lying more than the soft balls that got the severe punishment

In the AHL or NHL
- Homer

KHL

KHL
- seedy

I think its the lying more than the soft balls that got the severe punishment
- Homer

Yep.

That franchise thinks it's above the rules.

(frank) em.

The fact that the punishment is based on "more likely than not" and not "beyond a shadow of a doubt" is the problem here.
- buffalofan19

Wrong.

Totally wrong. There is nothing about this situation that suggests the proper standard Should be "beyond a reasonable doubt."

Not really, this isn't a court of law, it's the NFL.

They are an employer, not the police.
- sbroads24

You got this one right also.

Slipping closer to common ground.

In the AHL or NHL
- Homer

Don't know if it will be w the Sabres but he'll score 40 puts in the next season or two

Book it.