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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 7 @ 11:40 AM ET
When do we leave for Florida to make this happen?
- ob18

June 17th. You'll need a week to play golf and I'll need a week to eat gulf shrimp. Leave the heads on.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 7 @ 11:40 AM ET
Or Dylan McIlrath
- ob18


Just posted in there to point out they could have had G in 2006, and Fowler or Tarasenko in 2010.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 7 @ 11:41 AM ET
June 17th. You'll need a week to play golf and I'll need a week to eat gulf shrimp. Leave the heads on.
- mayorofangrytown


You drive I'll point out all the useless things I see along the way
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 7 @ 11:44 AM ET
I've only watched stuff I can find.
- ob18


I just feel like there are a number of guys w/ higher ceilings you could take 7-10... and if you prefer safer, there are guys that are safer.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 7 @ 11:44 AM ET
June 17th. You'll need a week to play golf and I'll need a week to eat gulf shrimp. Leave the heads on.
- mayorofangrytown

I'll be back in Key West from tomorrow through the 17th, stop on by!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 7 @ 11:44 AM ET
Just posted in there to point out they could have had G in 2006, and Fowler or Tarasenko in 2010.
- Feanor


I like you!
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 7 @ 11:45 AM ET
Just a question.

Just say the top of the draft goes:

Edmonton-McDavid
Buffalo- Eichel
Arizona - Hanifin
Toronto - Strome

Carolina sits at 5. They need assets and dmen. Would you offer something like B.Schenn and 7 to get 5 and take Marner?

Carolina could still get Provorov or Werenski at 7 to fill the blueline they need.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 7 @ 11:46 AM ET
Hugh Jessiman, Dan Blackburn and Al Montoya?
- Tomahawk


seriously. those dudes are hilarious.
MatveiDmitrii
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 01.16.2015

May 7 @ 11:47 AM ET
If Provorov is off the board and Crouse is there at 7, I would bet a large sum of money he is a Flyer.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 7 @ 11:49 AM ET
Hopefully he would see the chance for more playing time and responsibility in Philly than in NY or Chicago.
- Feanor


oh please. we have a stacked 1-8. he's got no chance.
MatveiDmitrii
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 01.16.2015

May 7 @ 11:49 AM ET
Just a question.

Just say the top of the draft goes:

Edmonton-McDavid
Buffalo- Eichel
Arizona - Hanifin
Toronto - Strome

Carolina sits at 5. They need assets and dmen. Would you offer something like B.Schenn and 7 to get 5 and take Marner?

Carolina could still get Provorov or Werenski at 7 to fill the blueline they need.

- J35Bacher


Carolina needs scoring help too. They might just stay put and take Marner. Plus I think it'll take a player of a higher caliber than B Schenn to mob up to 5.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 7 @ 11:53 AM ET
As much as I love Marner, BSchenn is too much to move up two spots.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 7 @ 11:55 AM ET
As much as I love Marner, BSchenn is too much to move up two spots.
- Feanor


haha.

One person doesn't think B.Schenn is enough.

Another feels too much.

MatveiDmitrii
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 01.16.2015

May 7 @ 11:58 AM ET
One man's blue is another man's orange
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 7 @ 11:59 AM ET
If Crouse is the guy, I think people will be pleasantly surprised. He skates very well for a big guy.
- BiggE


If he's a Jason chimera. Are you good with the pick? I just see a low ceiling, and a position I'd stay away from in the top 10 unless the player has franchise like qualities.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 7 @ 12:01 PM ET
You drive I'll point out all the useless things I see along the way
- ob18

That works for me. I'm down with the driving. Please just point "me" out the once.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 7 @ 12:03 PM ET
That works for me. I'm down with the driving. Please just point "me" out the once.
- mayorofangrytown


I can only promise to try
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 7 @ 12:03 PM ET
If he's a Jason chimera. Are you good with the pick? I just see a low ceiling, and a position I'd stay away from in the top 10 unless the player has franchise like qualities.
- Just5


I feel that Crouse is the "safe" pick. He's the closest to NHL ready that you'll get, but his upside is limited. The other guys have much higher (projected) ceilings.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 7 @ 12:04 PM ET
If he's a Jason chimera. Are you good with the pick? I just see a low ceiling, and a position I'd stay away from in the top 10 unless the player has franchise like qualities.
- Just5

So many people love him that evaluate talent for a living. I have a hard time brushing him off. I watched him toward the end of the season and he was just doing everything.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 7 @ 12:06 PM ET
haha.

One person doesn't think B.Schenn is enough.

Another feels too much.

- J35Bacher


I'm not even a big fan of his, but forwards in their early 20s who have been at 40+ points (pro-rated) for three straight seasons don't just grow on trees. And the Flyers are weak on the wing as it is. Maybe if you expect Marner to play in the NHL right away it makes sense... but there's a lot of risk involved in turning Provorov/Crouse/Barzal/Rantanen and BSchenn into one little guy.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 7 @ 12:06 PM ET
I read both Hextall articles today. Of course they were filled with mistakes but can someone clear up a point I believed was wrong. Both articles claimed that Chicago's pick next season only turns into a 2nd if they win the cup. I'm fairly certain I remember that it's a 2nd if they get there. They don't have to win it.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 7 @ 12:07 PM ET
So many people love him that evaluate talent for a living. I have a hard time brushing him off. I watched him toward the end of the season and he was just doing everything.
- mayorofangrytown


I watched him last year when the team was geared more towards an offensive system and he was awesome.

This year they changed coaches and went to a defensive system and with the injuries he was asked to a lot did it as well as he could.

I'd be happy with him, maybe more than most.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 7 @ 12:08 PM ET
I read both Hextall articles today. Of course they were filled with mistakes but can someone clear up a point I believed was wrong. Both articles claimed that Chicago's pick next season only turns into a 2nd if they win the cup. I'm fairly certain I remember that it's a 2nd if they get there. They don't have to win it.
- mayorofangrytown


You're right, they just need to make the Finals, not win the Cup.

http://www.prosportstrans...tTrades/Future/Flyers.htm

Traded Kimmo Timonen to Blackhawks for 2015 second round pick (?-?), 2016 conditional round pick (second round if Blackhawks advance to 2015 Stanley Cup Finals and Timonen plays in at least 50% of the games, third round if Blackhawks advance to third round of 2015 playoffs and Timonen plays in at least 50% of the games, else fourth round)
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 7 @ 12:09 PM ET
I feel that Crouse is the "safe" pick. He's the closest to NHL ready that you'll get, but his upside is limited. The other guys have much higher (projected) ceilings.
- jmatchett383



This draft could be funny. In the top ten I could see things going a hundred different ways because of team needs. The first to players are locks but after that every team could go different ways.

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 7 @ 12:11 PM ET
I watched him last year when the team was geared more towards an offensive system and he was awesome.

This year they changed coaches and went to a defensive system and with the injuries he was asked to a lot did it as well as he could.

I'd be happy with him, maybe more than most.

- ob18

They lost 4 of their top 6 for a long stretch. Hell Bennett was out for almost the whole season. Riding shot gun with him all season would have turned a lot of heads and his upside that everyone is questioning wouldn't be a question at all.

I don't see how people think they know a kid's upside. Seriously.
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