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edmhatescal
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Location: NY Joined: 11.08.2011
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I just don't see protecting your stars as being nearly as important these days. Who's protecting Tyler Johnson's line in Tampa? How about Toews in Chicago? Datsyuk or Zetterberg in Detroit? Gaudreau and Monahan in Calgary? The list goes on. If any type of "protection" is needed it's coming from one of two places these days; from the player himself (McDavid is 6'1 190 already so it's not like he's gonna be weak) or from the backend (Hedman, Seabrook, Ericsson, etc).
With guys like Nurse and Klefbom climbing the ranks, needless to say, I'm not worried. - MaximumBone
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McJesus_FTW
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I AM GOD'S GIFT TO HOCKEY... AND WOMEN... BUT MOSTLY HOCKEY...., SK Joined: 05.02.2015
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McJesus_FTW
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I AM GOD'S GIFT TO HOCKEY... AND WOMEN... BUT MOSTLY HOCKEY...., SK Joined: 05.02.2015
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ShooterMcGavin
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Stolen Colon, AB Joined: 02.26.2011
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I feel bad as a German saying this.... but is it bad that it bugs me that some of the swastikas are backwords. ... - McJesus_FTW
Looks like they just drew whatever, I actually think it's a Canadian team from Windsor |
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I feel bad as a German saying this.... but is it bad that it bugs me that some of the swastikas are backwords. ... - McJesus_FTW
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McJesus_FTW
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I AM GOD'S GIFT TO HOCKEY... AND WOMEN... BUT MOSTLY HOCKEY...., SK Joined: 05.02.2015
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Looks like they just drew whatever, I actually think it's a Canadian team from Windsor - ShooterMcGavin
?????what..... how..... why.... I don't get it... at all... |
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ShooterMcGavin
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Stolen Colon, AB Joined: 02.26.2011
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OilerFan16
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: SK Joined: 07.15.2013
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Oilers out on o'connor, well maybe not just says he's been talking to Ott,NYR and van |
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McJesus_FTW
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I AM GOD'S GIFT TO HOCKEY... AND WOMEN... BUT MOSTLY HOCKEY...., SK Joined: 05.02.2015
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Oilers out on o'connor, well maybe not just says he's been talking to Ott,NYR and van - OilerFan16
Don't do that.... |
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haymac
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: NWT Joined: 09.17.2011
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I just don't see protecting your stars as being nearly as important these days. Who's protecting Tyler Johnson's line in Tampa? How about Toews in Chicago? Datsyuk or Zetterberg in Detroit? Gaudreau and Monahan in Calgary? The list goes on. If any type of "protection" is needed it's coming from one of two places these days; from the player himself (McDavid is 6'1 190 already so it's not like he's gonna be weak) or from the backend (Hedman, Seabrook, Ericsson, etc).
With guys like Nurse and Klefbom climbing the ranks, needless to say, I'm not worried. - MaximumBone
I agree it's less of a factor these days, but it is still a concern. Look at the abuse Crosby has taken over his career. Grapes points out the Lemieux, as big as he was, did not have protection and suffered for it, but that was in the 90's.
When things get a little hairy vs the Hawks, they put Bickel on with Toews, even though he's 6'1".
I'd prefer a large, fast winger who can hold his own in the corners to help gain possession in the O zone and also be there if, rather when, some opponent takes liberties with McDavid or Ebs. I've said I'd like a guy like Brouwer or Brent Burns. Guys with size, speed & skill who can stand up for their smaller line mates when needed. To me, it's all about balanced lines. You can load up with all the danglers on the pp. |
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GreenBastard
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Parts Unknown Joined: 02.23.2012
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Oilers out on o'connor, well maybe not just says he's been talking to Ott,NYR and van - OilerFan16
Where did you see that ? |
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Won't be long before he puts an Oilers jersey on for good.
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OilerFan16
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: SK Joined: 07.15.2013
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I agree it's less of a factor these days, but it is still a concern. Look at the abuse Crosby has taken over his career. Grapes points out the Lemieux, as big as he was, did not have protection and suffered for it, but that was in the 90's.
When things get a little hairy vs the Hawks, they put Bickel on with Toews, even though he's 6'1".
I'd prefer a large, fast winger who can hold his own in the corners to help gain possession in the O zone and also be there if, rather when, some opponent takes liberties with McDavid or Ebs. I've said I'd like a guy like Brouwer or Brent Burns. Guys with size, speed & skill who can stand up for their smaller line mates when needed. To me, it's all about balanced lines. You can load up with all the danglers on the pp. - haymac
Lemieux also had this thing called cancer which- and I'll go out on a limb here- had a lot more to do with his career.
It was VERY rare for Toews to play with Bickell.
Certainly size has it's purposes and can help, but not at the expense of effectiveness. I'm not gonna push a guy like Eberle down in the line-up unless the player pushing him down makes his line more effective.
See Pouliot, for example. As far I saw, RNH and Eberle were more effective with him than they were with Hall (as short a sample, as it may have been) and as a result have no issue moving Hall to a different line in hopes he can help make that other line more effective. |
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GreenBastard
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Parts Unknown Joined: 02.23.2012
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https://twitter.com/lowetide/status/594978273148342272 - OilerFan16
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GreenBastard
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Parts Unknown Joined: 02.23.2012
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Lemieux also had this thing called cancer which- and I'll go out on a limb here- had a lot more to do with his career.
It was VERY rare for Toews to play with Bickell.
Certainly size has it's purposes and can help, but not at the expense of effectiveness. I'm not gonna push a guy like Eberle down in the line-up unless the player pushing him down makes his line more effective.
See Pouliot, for example. As far I saw, RNH and Eberle were more effective with him than they were with Hall (as short a sample, as it may have been) and as a result have no issue moving Hall to a different line in hopes he can help make that other line more effective. - MaximumBone
I think you have to stick with Pouliot / RNH / Eberle and then go with Hall / McDavid / ????
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That sucks donkey balls - GreenBastard
You guys just can't catch a break eh |
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OilerFan16
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: SK Joined: 07.15.2013
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I think you have to stick with Pouliot / RNH / Eberle and then go with Hall / McDavid / ???? - GreenBastard
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Yak. - OilerFan16
He certainly gets the first chance at it as far as I'm concerned, but we've been through this before; if he can't produce on such as line after 10-15 games, he's going to have to lose that spot. |
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OilerFan16
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: SK Joined: 07.15.2013
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He certainly gets the first chance at it as far as I'm concerned, but we've been through this before; if he can't produce on such as line after 10-15 games, he's going to have to lose that spot. - MaximumBone
For sure. I hope he can play like he did the last part of the season. We drafted the guy to score goals so we need to play him with guys who can create space for him. |
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ShooterMcGavin
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Stolen Colon, AB Joined: 02.26.2011
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GreenBastard
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Parts Unknown Joined: 02.23.2012
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He certainly gets the first chance at it as far as I'm concerned, but we've been through this before; if he can't produce on such as line after 10-15 games, he's going to have to lose that spot. - MaximumBone
I seem to remember on of the MSM guys saying that Yak and Hall actually played well together. |
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GreenBastard
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Parts Unknown Joined: 02.23.2012
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You guys just can't catch a break eh - HealthyScratch6
pretty much |
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McJesus_FTW
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I AM GOD'S GIFT TO HOCKEY... AND WOMEN... BUT MOSTLY HOCKEY...., SK Joined: 05.02.2015
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You guys just can't catch a break eh - HealthyScratch6
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