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yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY
Joined: 02.21.2011

May 4 @ 8:35 PM ET
Sharp- if you can get him for a good deal to help the hawks cap issues...why not?

Moulson- he has never been expected to be the star. He was brought here to be the same player he has been forever (complementary winger). I think murray knew in a few years we would have 2 solid centers to feed him. Last year we didnt, but at least we arent paying him like a star, 5 million seems like a lot but isnt that much of a hit with all of these young players earning their deals. He doesnt make mistakes and can put the puck in the net if someone can get it to him
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

May 4 @ 8:36 PM ET
What's with all this Sharp talk ?
- SABRES 89



Kind of dull, if you ask me...
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 4 @ 8:36 PM ET
You need more than one competent winger. That way when Ennis gets hurt you don't have someone like Phil Varone AHL'ing his way to the top line
- sbroads24



I think you're going a little overboard with your example

All I'm saying...
For example...

Why not trade for say Marchand or Lucic over Sharp?
Yes, they'd cost us more...
But wasting assets on a guy that won't be around when we are ready to compete for the Cup doesn't make sense to me
Let's get a guy that will still be around to help these guys!
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 4 @ 8:36 PM ET
Don't vet rentals usually go for a 2nd round pick?
Plus,
How do we know that's all Sharp would cost?

What's this "hell of a lot more" u think we'd have to pay?

- jdfitz77


Remember the 1st round pick we got for Gaustad?

We don't know what anyone will end up costing until it actually happens, but traditionally, it costs more for those guys at the deadline.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 4 @ 8:38 PM ET
I think you're going a little overboard with your example

All I'm saying...
For example...

Why not trade for say Marchand or Lucic over Sharp?
Yes, they'd cost us more...
But wasting assets on a guy that won't be around when we are ready to compete for the Cup doesn't make sense to me
Let's get a guy that will still be around to help these guys!

- jdfitz77

I don't think it's a waste at all. It's a low cost move.

I don't get it, people are fine with Murray throwing around 1st and 2nd round picks and people defend it saying that they probably won't turn out or whatever, yet Sharp for a 2nd rounder is a waste?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 4 @ 8:38 PM ET
Sharp- if you can get him for a good deal to help the hawks cap issues...why not?

Moulson- he has never been expected to be the star. He was brought here to be the same player he has been forever (complementary winger). I think murray knew in a few years we would have 2 solid centers to feed him. Last year we didnt, but at least we arent paying him like a star, 5 million seems like a lot but isnt that much of a hit with all of these young players earning their deals. He doesnt make mistakes and can put the puck in the net if someone can get it to him

- yen6d1


This.

Nobody is saying we have to go out and get Sharp, but if the price is right, I'm fine with it.
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

May 4 @ 8:41 PM ET
This.

Nobody is saying we have to go out and get Sharp, but if the price is right, I'm fine with it.

- HonkFortheGoose



I'm late to the convo, but does anyone know if Sharp has a NMC?

I'm betting if you ask him, Buffalo is one of the last places he'd want to go
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 4 @ 8:41 PM ET
This.

Nobody is saying we have to go out and get Sharp, but if the price is right, I'm fine with it.

- HonkFortheGoose


I guess I would be "fine"with it also. I just think there will be the opportunity to do better.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 4 @ 8:42 PM ET
I'm late to the convo, but does anyone know if Sharp has a NMC?

I'm betting if you ask him, Buffalo is one of the last places he'd want to go

- grand-magus


It was said earlier that he does. I believe he was rumored to the caps at the deadline.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 4 @ 8:42 PM ET
Richards and Carter were center pieces to their cup. It cost the Kings 1st round picks and prospects to get them.

We aren't talking about a player like that. If there were one available that the Sabres could get, that fits, than by all means, but there might not be

- sbroads24



And if they aren't,
I'm not gonna settle for Sharp

I'd rather play Hodgson in the top6 this year
Get his trade value back up
Then move Hodgson & that 2nd I didn't use to trade for Sharp and maybe a prospect to get a good younger top6 winger

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 4 @ 8:42 PM ET
I guess I would be "fine"with it also. I just think there will be the opportunity to do better.
- Slump Buster

There definitely might be.

Loui Eriksson comes to mind.
Carl Hagelin
Michael Frolik


Just isn't a guarantee we can grab one
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

May 4 @ 8:44 PM ET
Not sure if this was posted: Eichel: Second among USA forwards with 18:47 TOI. Impressive for his 3rd pro-like game.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 4 @ 8:45 PM ET
I'm late to the convo, but does anyone know if Sharp has a NMC?

I'm betting if you ask him, Buffalo is one of the last places he'd want to go

- grand-magus


You could be right, but he has played on a team with a guy from here for the last however many years. I would imagine he's actually heard some good stuff about the city. Plus, he's from Winnipeg originally. Can't be much worse than that. And maybe he would be intrigued by the idea of playing with Eichel.

Who knows. It probably won't happen but the Hawks are going to need to move someone because they're in serious cap trouble.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 4 @ 8:45 PM ET
There definitely might be.

Loui Eriksson comes to mind.
Carl Hagelin
Michael Frolik


Just isn't a guarantee we can grab one

- sbroads24


I think we would have to shoot higher than that if we want top 6. It won't come via UFA.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 4 @ 8:46 PM ET
And if they aren't,
I'm not gonna settle for Sharp

I'd rather play Hodgson in the top6 this year
Get his trade value back up
Then move Hodgson & that 2nd I didn't use to trade for Sharp and maybe a prospect to get a good younger top6 winger

- jdfitz77

I'm ok with Hodgson for another year, but I still think Sharp should be at least considered. If they don't want him I won't lose sleep.

What I don't want is another Moulson at 31 years old signed for 5 years.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 4 @ 8:46 PM ET
And if they aren't,
I'm not gonna settle for Sharp

I'd rather play Hodgson in the top6 this year
Get his trade value back up
Then move Hodgson & that 2nd I didn't use to trade for Sharp and maybe a prospect to get a good younger top6 winger

- jdfitz77


No chance of that happening. I'd buy him out in the window that is open right now as it is closing soon.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 4 @ 8:47 PM ET
The price to get one of those younger guys is going to be A LOT higher, that's why. You do remember what LA gave up to get Richards right? Brayden Schenn, who was expected to be a #1 center at the time. Now, things haven't worked out exactly that way in his career progression, but it was seen as a very risky move for LA to trade a young player with that kind of upside. So, you may be able to find a guy like that, but say goodbye to someone like Girgensons, Reinhart, or Risto. I'm not sure that's in our best interest right now either.
- HonkFortheGoose



I don't really wanna trade those guys either

What do u think Marchand would cost?
I don't think one of those guys

Sharp is also overrated at this point for me
He's still ok
But he's not a top line winger
Not even close
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 4 @ 8:47 PM ET
And if they aren't,
I'm not gonna settle for Sharp

I'd rather play Hodgson in the top6 this year
Get his trade value back up
Then move Hodgson & that 2nd I didn't use to trade for Sharp and maybe a prospect to get a good younger top6 winger

- jdfitz77


Getting the Hodgson back that we saw 2 years ago is addition without subtraction. I'm all for it. I think there was a lot going on behind the scenes between him and Nolan. He has the talent, but he certainly wasn't being utilized correctly.
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

May 4 @ 8:47 PM ET
JACK.........

https://twitter.com/JKTHN...status/595268277359792128
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 4 @ 8:48 PM ET
Not sure if this was posted: Eichel: Second among USA forwards with 18:47 TOI. Impressive for his 3rd pro-like game.
- GilPerreault11


His game is steadily improving from game to game. Not sure what his final FO stats were, but at one point today he had won 12 of 16, and he was going up against Malkin for most of them I believe.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 4 @ 8:50 PM ET
Getting the Hodgson back that we saw 2 years ago is addition without subtraction. I'm all for it. I think there was a lot going on behind the scenes between him and Nolan. He has the talent, but he certainly wasn't being utilized correctly.
- HonkFortheGoose


He is what he is - a slow, soft winger. If we don't buy him out soon he will cost more against the cap. Sure, he put up some points with Vanek and Pommer. So did Luke Adam.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 4 @ 8:51 PM ET
I don't really wanna trade those guys either

What do u think Marchand would cost?
I don't think one of those guys

Sharp is also overrated at this point for me
He's still ok
But he's not a top line winger
Not even close

- jdfitz77


I honestly have no idea what Marchand would cost. It's going to be hard to gauge too, since Chiarelli got fired. Have they even named a new GM yet? I don't remember hearing if they did, but I may have missed it.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 4 @ 8:52 PM ET
He is what he is - a slow, soft winger. If we don't buy him out soon he will cost more against the cap. Sure, he put up some points with Vanek and Pommer. So did Luke Adam.
- Slump Buster


Not everyone needs to be a huge physical guy out there. Pominville is a "soft" player, but he's still effective.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

May 4 @ 8:53 PM ET
JACK.........

https://twitter.com/JKTHN...status/595268277359792128

- Irish 14



Sweeet!!!!


grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

May 4 @ 8:54 PM ET
You could be right, but he has played on a team with a guy from here for the last however many years. I would imagine he's actually heard some good stuff about the city. Plus, he's from Winnipeg originally. Can't be much worse than that. And maybe he would be intrigued by the idea of playing with Eichel.



Who knows. It probably won't happen but the Hawks are going to need to move someone because they're in serious cap trouble.

- HonkFortheGoose


I did not know that.

Good point, ma'am.

Ironically, I have dealings with colleagues from Winnipeg at work, and not many of them have great things to say about the place. Some are transplants, some are native, most aren't happy.


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