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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 28 @ 11:07 AM ET
We won't be good next year. It just isn't going to happen.

There are multiple teams this season who had more points than the Sabres have had over the past 2 seasons combined.

It's not an overnight thing.

I'm fine with adding a player via trade and signing a few FA'S. But we already swung for the fences with Kane, and we don't even know if that has panned out yet

- sbroads24


Still stuck on that i see.

You are trading future unknowns for provens. Which is commonplace in the NHL.

Trading a 1st and 2nd rd pick for a guy another team drafted develpoed and is now going to move.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 28 @ 11:07 AM ET
You do know picks turn into real NHL players too
- sbroads24


Yeah what are the odds?

http://proicehockey.about...pects/f/draft_success.htm

63% of first round picks play enough NHL games to make them real NHL players

Only 19% of all players drafted play enough.

Yes like I said I would rather move a pick or two for an established NHL player especially when I have a team full of kids
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 28 @ 11:09 AM ET
Still stuck on that i see.

You are trading future unknowns for provens. Which is commonplace in the NHL.

Trading a 1st and 2nd rd pick for a guy another team drafted develpoed and is now going to move.

- ImThatGuy

Have I missed where Kane has turned his career around and is scoring 30 goals for us? Or did I just say something factual you didn't like?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 28 @ 11:10 AM ET
stat of the day, jeff skinner had 3 more points then gerbe this season in carolina

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 28 @ 11:11 AM ET
Yeah what are the odds?

http://proicehockey.about...pects/f/draft_success.htm

63% of first round picks play enough NHL games to make them real NHL players

Only 19% of all players drafted play enough.

Yes like I said I would rather move a pick or two for an established NHL player especially when I have a team full of kids

- Stripes77

Pick+++

Where are these true, proven top line players that cost late 1st round picks?

ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 28 @ 11:11 AM ET
Have I missed where Kane has turned his career around and is scoring 30 goals for us? Or did I just say something factual you didn't like?
- sbroads24


If next year has started and I missed it please let me know. Factual or your opinion?
LamontSanford
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You Big Dummy
Joined: 01.13.2011

Apr 28 @ 11:12 AM ET
So now that we know that the Islanders pick will be ours in either the 18 or 19 spot (depending on how the Red Wings/Lightning series shakes out) does anyone have an idea will be around then? Kind of curious to hear about other prospects now that the lottery is over with. I think I had read (red) somewhere that the tiers go 1-2, 3-5, 6-11, 12-19 as far as talent goes. I don't see GMTM trading this pick away unless it's for a first line winger, which we probably won't get.
- SDSabre

Would love to see Timo Meier or Paul Bitter fall to the Sabres........I know thanks Capt. Obvious.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 28 @ 11:14 AM ET
Pick+++

Where are these true, proven top line players that cost late 1st round picks?

- sbroads24


You put a memo out that you have your first, a late 2nd rd pick and say Grigorenko or Larsson available. You see what the offers are. if you don't like them you draft a guy.

No one is talking about making another huge trade.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 28 @ 11:14 AM ET
Would love to see Timo Meier or Paul Bitter fall to the Sabres........I know thanks Capt. Obvious.
- LamontSanford

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 28 @ 11:15 AM ET
you know what player would round out this top 6 nicely?


pommer

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 28 @ 11:15 AM ET
Pick+++

Where are these true, proven top line players that cost late 1st round picks?

- sbroads24


Pick plus indeed. Its called a trade. You're so stuck on the fact that you have to give to get. You think we overpaid for Kane, too early to tell. If I could trade the late first, Pysyk and Grigorenko for a true top line winger I would do it. Ryan O'Reilly is not who I am talking about.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 28 @ 11:16 AM ET

No one is talking about making another huge trade.

- ImThatGuy

if your going after a #1 rw, it will be a huge trade


the holes on this team is
top line rw
pp qb
rugged 3/4 d man so gorges moves down to the 3rd line
2 goales
1 head coach

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 28 @ 11:17 AM ET
You put a memo out that you have your first, a late 2nd rd pick and say Grigorenko or Larsson available. You see what the offers are. if you don't like them you draft a guy.

No one is talking about making another huge trade.

- ImThatGuy

So then keep the pick, and take the chance that your GM who is a rink rat can find the next Corey Perry in the middle of the 1st round.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 28 @ 11:17 AM ET
you know what player would round out this top 6 nicely?


pommer


- homiedclown


I said that last week. He would look great on a Eichel's wing and Kane on the other
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 28 @ 11:17 AM ET
I said that last week. He would look great on a Eichel's wing and Kane on the other
- Stripes77

special teams would be scary good as well

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 28 @ 11:18 AM ET
if your going after a #1 rw, it will be a huge trade


the holes on this team is
top line rw
pp qb
rugged 3/4 d man so gorges moves down to the 3rd line
2 goales
1 head coach

- homiedclown


It depends on who that #1 RW is. If its a scoring machine I am all for it.

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 28 @ 11:19 AM ET
It depends on who that #1 RW is. If its a scoring machine I am all for it.
- Stripes77

that leaves eberle and kessel

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 28 @ 11:19 AM ET
special teams would be scary good as well
- homiedclown



Had Lindy played Pommer where Drury played on the pp instead of the point many more pp's would have succeeded.


Every time he played there it seemed a goal was scored.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Apr 28 @ 11:20 AM ET
you know what player would round out this top 6 nicely?


pommer


- homiedclown


Too vanilla for me . Could be the reason for my dislike of him.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 28 @ 11:20 AM ET
Too vanilla for me . Could be the reason for my dislike of him.
- cabin



racist........
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 28 @ 11:21 AM ET
Had Lindy played Pommer where Drury played on the pp instead of the point many more pp's would have succeeded.


Every time he played there it seemed a goal was scored.

- dadeadhead

yup

how many times did we say that over the years

my guess is 2003 times
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 28 @ 11:21 AM ET
So then keep the pick, and take the chance that your GM who is a rink rat can find the next Corey Perry in the middle of the 1st round.
- sbroads24



Because those players show up in every draft??

Gotcha.

It also took 6 years AFTER he was drafted to be the Corey Perry we know. So we can be good in 2021...
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 28 @ 11:21 AM ET
Too vanilla for me . Could be the reason for my dislike of him.
- cabin

best all around sabre since satan IMO

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 28 @ 11:22 AM ET
racist........
- dadeadhead



how many free tv's exchanged hands in baltimore last night?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 28 @ 11:22 AM ET
best all around sabre since satan IMO
- homiedclown



Oh my........










I could agree with that although Drury was there just not here long enough.
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