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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 28 @ 9:46 AM ET
1 first round pick in a year where you have 2, and the one is a generational player shouldn't make much difference. If you are getting a young top 6 winger with it then I am all for it.
- ImThatGuy

2 1st round picks. We had 3.

We aren't making the playoffs next season. There is no rush to go and get the 1st guy put on the trade block. I'd rather draft well over the next few years.

We have little to no potential top 6 forward prospects outside of Reinhart and Eichel.

adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Apr 28 @ 9:48 AM ET
In case you guys didn't see this:

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...a-game-at-worlds/related/


All US games to be on nbcsn starting Friday
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 28 @ 9:53 AM ET
http://www.mynhldraft.com/NHL-Mock-Draft/
- homiedclown


I like the idea of picking Brandon Carlo. I don't love it, but I like it. If we could get Carlo at 20 and Kylington at 31, it would address a lot of defensive need for this team. Carlo is a defensive Dman while Kylington seems to be purely offensive.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Apr 28 @ 9:56 AM ET
So now that we know that the Islanders pick will be ours in either the 18 or 19 spot (depending on how the Red Wings/Lightning series shakes out)
- SDSabre



We can still pick as high as 20
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Apr 28 @ 9:59 AM ET
2 1st round picks. We had 3.

We aren't making the playoffs next season. There is no rush to go and get the 1st guy put on the trade block. I'd rather draft well over the next few years.

We have little to no potential top 6 forward prospects outside of Reinhart and Eichel.

- sbroads24

Murray doesn't want to wait a few more years and I don't blame him, that's all this organization keeps saying is " a few more years " enough already.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 28 @ 9:59 AM ET
2 1st round picks. We had 3.

We aren't making the playoffs next season. There is no rush to go and get the 1st guy put on the trade block. I'd rather draft well over the next few years.

We have little to no potential top 6 forward prospects outside of Reinhart and Eichel.

- sbroads24


Which is why you trade that pick for an established top 6 winger. Not sure I get that point.

You also surround your young centers with guys already in the league who actually have talent.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 28 @ 10:00 AM ET
I like the idea of picking Brandon Carlo. I don't love it, but I like it. If we could get Carlo at 20 and Kylington at 31, it would address a lot of defensive need for this team. Carlo is a defensive Dman while Kylington seems to be purely offensive.
- TheSabresTaco


If Murray is going to keep the pick, I'd like to see him trade up a few spots and take Bittner.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Apr 28 @ 10:04 AM ET
We need a very good coach with a system these players need to learn and stick with before we can move forward.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Apr 28 @ 10:05 AM ET
We can still pick as high as 20
- adambuffalo


Calgary, Minn won their series. So they would move ahead of the Islanders pick correct? If the Wings lose, that would put us at 19 unless I'm missing something. (EDM, BUF, ARI, TOR, CAR, NJ, PHIL, CBJ, SJS, COL, FLO, DAL, LAK, BOS, PITT, WIN, OTT, NYI/DET) As long as it goes as I think it does, the worst they can be picking is 19
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Apr 28 @ 10:10 AM ET
Which is why you trade that pick for an established top 6 winger. Not sure I get that point.

You also surround your young centers with guys already in the league who actually have talent.

- ImThatGuy



I agree. I think the Kane trade is a good example of that. He's a vet guy, but he's still young. It's possible to make moves like that. It doesn't hurt you depth wise, because you're not going to be looking to replace the guy in another 2 or 3 years. It affords you the opportunity to move some picks.

Not to mention we've had a plethora of picks over the past 3 years. Organizationally, you can't actually keep all of those guys. There's not enough room. A team can only have 50 guys under contract between the NHL, AHL, CHL, and Europe. It's time they take the quantity they've acquired and turn it into quality.
The Don
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Glasgow, VA
Joined: 02.03.2007

Apr 28 @ 10:10 AM ET
Islanders had 11 shots in game 7

Did Teddy coach the game?

- homiedclown

Nope. The Capitals only had 26 shots on goal. A Nolan coached team would have given up twice as many shots on goal.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 28 @ 10:10 AM ET
We need a very good coach with a system these players need to learn and stick with before we can move forward.
- SABRES 89

in the modern era

no gm that has won a cup went on to another team and won a cup

the only head coach that won a cup and went on to another team to coach them to a cup was scotty


I found that interesting
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 28 @ 10:11 AM ET
Nope. The Capitals only had 26 shots on goal. A Nolan coached team would have given up twice as many shots on goal.
- The Don

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 28 @ 10:11 AM ET
Murray doesn't want to wait a few more years and I don't blame him, that's all this organization keeps saying is " a few more years " enough already.
- SABRES 89

if you can move the pick and a player for a young proven top line winger, you do it
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Apr 28 @ 10:14 AM ET
if you can move the pick and a player for a young proven top line winger, you do it
- homiedclown

1000% agree and he will.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Apr 28 @ 10:16 AM ET
In case you guys didn't see this:

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...a-game-at-worlds/related/


All US games to be on nbcsn starting Friday

- adambuffalo


Seen it . Sucks they are all broadcasted at 10am est.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 28 @ 10:16 AM ET
2 1st round picks. We had 3.

We aren't making the playoffs next season. There is no rush to go and get the 1st guy put on the trade block. I'd rather draft well over the next few years.

We have little to no potential top 6 forward prospects outside of Reinhart and Eichel.

- sbroads24

this conversation needs to be put on hold til late july IMO
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Apr 28 @ 10:16 AM ET
Over 300 wins for Todd McLellan in his time with the Sharks, can't blame him for his GM problems. Wilson is the Darcy Regire of the West. I'd take McLellan here if the chance was given.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 28 @ 10:17 AM ET
Seen it . Sucks they are all broadcasted at 10am est.
- cabin

man I looked skinny next to Jeff Garlin Saturday night

Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 28 @ 10:17 AM ET
So now that we know that the Islanders pick will be ours in either the 18 or 19 spot (depending on how the Red Wings/Lightning series shakes out) does anyone have an idea will be around then? Kind of curious to hear about other prospects now that the lottery is over with. I think I had read (red) somewhere that the tiers go 1-2, 3-5, 6-11, 12-19 as far as talent goes. I don't see GMTM trading this pick away unless it's for a first line winger, which we probably won't get.
- SDSabre

It only moves up to 18 or 19 if the teams below the Isles in the standings make the conference finals. It's most likely going to be 21.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Apr 28 @ 10:18 AM ET
Calgary, Minn won their series. So they would move ahead of the Islanders pick correct? If the Wings lose, that would put us at 19 unless I'm missing something. (EDM, BUF, ARI, TOR, CAR, NJ, PHIL, CBJ, SJS, COL, FLO, DAL, LAK, BOS, PITT, WIN, OTT, NYI/DET) As long as it goes as I think it does, the worst they can be picking is 19
- SDSabre


Incorrect. Whoever loses in the 1st two rounds pick based on regular season standings.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Apr 28 @ 10:20 AM ET
1000% agree and he will.
- SABRES 89

We have had lots of so called potencial players in our system. time to move to the next level. Top talent. Not maybes.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 28 @ 10:21 AM ET
Over 300 wins for Todd McLellan in his time with the Sharks, can't blame him for his GM problems. Wilson is the Darcy Regire of the West. I'd take McLellan here if the chance was given.
- SABRES 89


I would take him right now in Buffalo.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Apr 28 @ 10:22 AM ET
Incorrect. Whoever loses in the 1st two rounds pick based on regular season standings.
- adambuffalo


Understood now. Thought it was by each round. Makes sense then. So they could actually be as low as 21.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Apr 28 @ 10:22 AM ET
man I looked skinny next to Jeff Garlin Saturday night
- homiedclown

Remember the skit on SNL with the fat ugly women that makes everyone around her look amazing?

Thats what came to mind as I red your post
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