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jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 26 @ 5:00 PM ET
Ugh. Scored with 2 seconds left.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Apr 26 @ 5:06 PM ET
HitcCock not lucky with his goaltenders he had with the blues
ManCity
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pike County, PA
Joined: 05.24.2014

Apr 26 @ 5:10 PM ET
Here is one explanation of the draft order: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...n_order_and_draft_lottery

If this is correct, there is no advantage in terms of higher picks for losing in the first round versus losing in the 2nd, if the first round loser is a division winner and the 2nd round loser is not, or if they neither are but the first round loser has a better regular season record, then the first round loser picks later in spite of being eliminated first. Seems off, but that seems to be what the explanation is saying.


And if this is true, it seems to me that Flyers could pick as high as 21st, actually, in at least one scenario: For example, if the conference finalists are: Washington/Islanders vs. Detroit, and Calgary/Canucks versus Minnesota/Chicago. Then 4 of these 7 teams would take 30-26. 25 would be Rangers, 24 Montreal, 23 Anaheim, 22 St Louis, and then TB.

- PT21


If you look at last year's regular season's standings, playoffs results, and draft order I think you are right. (Your math is off by one though)

If Tampa loses to Detroit and the Blues lose to the Wild then the Flyers would be guaranteed no worse than the 25th pick. If the Rangers, Canadiens, and Ducks all lost before the conference finals, then the Flyers could have the 22nd pick. The Flyers will know their position by the conference finals assuming Tampa loses before then.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 26 @ 5:20 PM ET
If you look at last year's regular season's standings, playoffs results, and draft order I think you are right. (Your math is off by one though)

If Tampa loses to Detroit and the Blues lose to the Wild then the Flyers would be guaranteed no worse than the 25th pick. If the Rangers, Canadiens, and Ducks all lost before the conference finals, then the Flyers could have the 22nd pick. The Flyers will know their position by the conference finals assuming Tampa loses before then.

- ManCity


Yep 22-26 is the range.
AGL_91
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: ON
Joined: 06.29.2013

Apr 26 @ 5:23 PM ET
can anyone tell me where we would pick if Tampa loses this round and conference camps are MTL vs NYR and CHI vs ANA? Because that's how I see it shaking out with NYR and CHI makings through and CHI winning in 6
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 26 @ 5:25 PM ET
time to come home
- Crimsoninja

Hitch works best with and prefers a veteran lineup. If you are looking to build through the draft over the next few seasons, he's probably not the best choice.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 26 @ 5:28 PM ET
time to come home
- Crimsoninja

I'd love that!
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 26 @ 5:35 PM ET
can anyone tell me where we would pick if Tampa loses this round and conference camps are MTL vs NYR and CHI vs ANA? Because that's how I see it shaking out with NYR and CHI makings through and CHI winning in 6
- AGL_91


25th with Blues picking 26th. The last 4 27-30
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 26 @ 5:37 PM ET
Hitch works best with and prefers a veteran lineup. If you are looking to build through the draft over the next few seasons, he's probably not the best choice.
- BiggE


I think a lot has changed since his time in Philadelphia. Hitch isn't stupid, I'm sure he knows now that youth is the way to go. At the same time, Hitch has worked with and adjusted a lot of young players' games. I think Hitch should get a lot of credit for Simon Gagne and Justin Williams. To me Patrick Sharp is onlly one example of a major screw up.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Apr 26 @ 5:42 PM ET
Hitch works best with and prefers a veteran lineup. If you are looking to build through the draft over the next few seasons, he's probably not the best choice.
- BiggE



Eakins
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 26 @ 5:45 PM ET
Eakins
- Landsbergfan

Hitch hc
Eakins assistant
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Apr 26 @ 5:46 PM ET
Hitch hc
Eakins assistant

- Crimsoninja

Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 26 @ 5:50 PM ET

- Winning

Accept it
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Apr 26 @ 5:51 PM ET
I think a lot has changed since his time in Philadelphia. Hitch isn't stupid, I'm sure he knows now that youth is the way to go. At the same time, Hitch has worked with and adjusted a lot of young players' games. I think Hitch should get a lot of credit for Simon Gagne and Justin Williams. To me Patrick Sharp is onlly one example of a major screw up.
- SuperSchennBros

Agreed, Shattenkirk, Terasenko, and Schwartz all seem to have done pretty well under hitch.

Look at all the goaltenders the blues have had in his tenure, and the numbers they put up, crazy that his system can make Brian Elliot look good (of course it all blows up come playoff time), can you imagine the numbers Mase would put up? (after he just had this great season)

Of course it wouldn't hurt to have Pietrangelo in O&B
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 26 @ 5:53 PM ET
St. Louis Blues first round fodder since 1967
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 26 @ 5:54 PM ET
St. Louis Blues first round fodder since 1967
- Just5

That'd be the year Sgt. Pepper was released.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 26 @ 5:54 PM ET
Pumped I get to see the Habs/Sens game. Woke up at 7 this morning to study. Worked my day around this poop.

(frank) the Purebreds.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 26 @ 5:55 PM ET
That'd be the year Sgt. Pepper was released.
- Giroux_Is_God

oh shut up
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 26 @ 5:55 PM ET
Pumped I get to see the Habs/Sens game. Woke up at 7 this morning to study. Worked my day around this poop.

(frank) the Purebreds.

- Giroux_Is_God

did you do the hat thing?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 26 @ 5:55 PM ET
oh shut up
- Crimsoninja

no u
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 26 @ 5:56 PM ET
Agreed, Shattenkirk, Terasenko, and Schwartz all seem to have done pretty well under hitch.

Look at all the goaltenders the blues have had in his tenure, and the numbers they put up, crazy that his system can make Brian Elliot look good (of course it all blows up come playoff time), can you imagine the numbers Mase would put up? (after he just had this great season)

Of course it wouldn't hurt to have Pietrangelo in O&B

- Yosimar89


D-first

Enough of that trash in the league.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 26 @ 5:56 PM ET
did you do the hat thing?
- Crimsoninja

Yeah dawg! She laughed pretty damn hard, and then during the exam she asked if she could keep it as a souvenir. She was pumped when I told her she could have it
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Apr 26 @ 5:56 PM ET
Two teams that need a roster shake up, the blues and penguins. Maybe they could be trade partners.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Apr 26 @ 5:56 PM ET
HitcCock looked very flaccid there
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Apr 26 @ 5:56 PM ET
offersheet tarsenko max
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