The way I read it the Tampa pick can still be 26th if all the 1s make it to the conference finals? Making it to the second rd has no bearing according to this.

Draft Order
The 14 teams that missed the playoffs during the previous NHL season are awarded the first 14 picks. They draft in order of fewest points to most points, subject to the results of the draft lottery.
The current Stanley Cup champion picks last (30th).
The Stanley Cup runner-up picks 29th.
The other two Conference Finalists pick 28th and 27th.
Regular-season division winners hold the other lowest positions.
Remaining teams draft in order of fewest points to most points from the previous regular season.

How the hell did Schenn make the cut?
- hereticpride

Idk how did ennis and eakin make it?

The way I read it the Tampa pick can still be 26th if all the 1s make it to the conference finals? Making it to the second rd has no bearing according to this.

Draft Order
The 14 teams that missed the playoffs during the previous NHL season are awarded the first 14 picks. They draft in order of fewest points to most points, subject to the results of the draft lottery.
The current Stanley Cup champion picks last (30th).
The Stanley Cup runner-up picks 29th.
The other two Conference Finalists pick 28th and 27th.
Regular-season division winners hold the other lowest positions.
Remaining teams draft in order of fewest points to most points from the previous regular season.
- jstross

Where'd you get this from? This sounds legit, and if it is, Tampa didnt win Their division, so they wouldnt be in pick From 23-26, is what Im reading

Where'd you get this from? This sounds legit, and if it is, Tampa didnt win Their division, so they wouldnt be in pick From 23-26, is what Im reading
- JAKEw1234

No idea if legit, but I posted before and people seemed to agree with it.

http://proicehockey.about...w-The-Nhl-Draft-Works.htm

This is from the Hockey Operations Guideline(more confusing):

Entry Draft Order
The order of selection among the Member Clubs in each season shall be determined in the following manner:
A composite of all Member Clubs shall be prepared by placing:
i) First the Clubs which failed to qualify for the preceding playoffs in the order of points earned by each of them in the regular schedule of the preceding season starting with the Club having the lowest points total and followed by the Club having the next lowest points total, and so forth.
ii) The Clubs which participated in the preceding playoffs (but had not been ranked first in their respective Divisions and had not won the Stanley Cup that season) in order of points earned by each of them in the regular schedule of the preceding season starting with the Club having the lowest total points and followed by the Club having the next lowest total points, and so forth.
iii) The Clubs which had been ranked first in their Divisions during the next preceding season (but had not won the Stanley Cup that season) in the order of points earned by each of them in the regular schedule of the preceding season starting with the Club having the lowest total points and followed by the Club having the next lowest total points, and so forth.
iv) The Stanley Cup winner shall select last, thus, positioning all Clubs on the list.
In the event of a tie for any position, such tie shall be resolved by application of the rules governing the determination of final League standings. The resulting list shall constitute the order of selection.

How the hell did Schenn make the cut?
- hereticpride

Statistically he didnt end up with a horrible season.

Let's also be honest if all the normal cast of characters were avail neither Couturier or Schenn make it.

Um no. That pick is gonna wind up being a second rd pick. Read the article

I'm rooting for whatever gives the Flyers better picks. Outside of that, I don't give a (frank)
- Jsaquella

The way I read it the Tampa pick can still be 26th if all the 1s make it to the conference finals? Making it to the second rd has no bearing according to this.

Draft Order
The 14 teams that missed the playoffs during the previous NHL season are awarded the first 14 picks. They draft in order of fewest points to most points, subject to the results of the draft lottery.
The current Stanley Cup champion picks last (30th).
The Stanley Cup runner-up picks 29th.
The other two Conference Finalists pick 28th and 27th.
Regular-season division winners hold the other lowest positions.
Remaining teams draft in order of fewest points to most points from the previous regular season.
- jstross

So it isn't within the order teams are simply knocked out of the playoffs? This was my understanding since...forever....

I'm upset that the Wings weren't able to put the Tampa away last night. They really screwed the pooch on Thursday and we should know what our pick is ranked now!
- SuperSchennBros

nice avatar bud

nice avatar bud
- Crimsoninja

Olympic GOLD winner and he understand both genders out and in because he have been a man and a woman+ he have no ties to any of the flyers goon brass BRUCE JENNER next flyer head coach

The more I watch the playoffs the more ok I'd be with the flyers drafting Lawson Crouse at 7. I can't believe I said that.

The more I watch the playoffs the more ok I'd be with the flyers drafting Lawson Crouse at 7. I can't believe I said that.
- flyerscup2011

Neither can I.

Olympic GOLD winner and he understand both genders out and in because he have been a man and a woman+ he have no ties to any of the flyers goon brass BRUCE JENNER next flyer head coach
- Landsbergfan

The more I watch the playoffs the more ok I'd be with the flyers drafting Lawson Crouse at 7. I can't believe I said that.
- flyerscup2011

You prob can't get enough ferland like me

The more I watch the playoffs the more ok I'd be with the flyers drafting Lawson Crouse at 7. I can't believe I said that.
- flyerscup2011

I'm alright with it, only because we're that thin at LW and some have suggested he MIGHT be ready now.

I'm alright with it, only because we're that thin at LW and some have suggested he MIGHT be ready now.
- SuperSchennBros

Our D men aren't even ready so what's it matter that he's ready now? Give me the higher ceiling guys.

Our D men aren't even ready so what's it matter that he's ready now? Give me the higher ceiling guys.
- hereticpride

D-men need longer to develop. It's not out of the ordinary for young forwards to be ready to step right into the NHL, not that I'm expecting this of anyone we draft. Case and point Sean Couturier.

D-men need longer to develop. It's not out of the ordinary for young forwards to be ready to step right into the NHL, now that I'm expecting this of anyone we draft. Case and point Sean Couturier.
- SuperSchennBros

Maybe AMac can be good when he turn 35

Here is one explanation of the draft order: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...n_order_and_draft_lottery

If this is correct, there is no advantage in terms of higher picks for losing in the first round versus losing in the 2nd, if the first round loser is a division winner and the 2nd round loser is not, or if they neither are but the first round loser has a better regular season record, then the first round loser picks later in spite of being eliminated first. Seems off, but that seems to be what the explanation is saying.


And if this is true, it seems to me that Flyers could pick as high as 21st, actually, in at least one scenario: For example, if the conference finalists are: Washington/Islanders vs. Detroit, and Calgary/Canucks versus Minnesota/Chicago. Then 4 of these 7 teams would take 30-26. 25 would be Rangers, 24 Montreal, 23 Anaheim, 22 St Louis, and then TB.

Here is one explanation of the draft order: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...n_order_and_draft_lottery

If this is correct, there is no advantage in terms of higher picks for losing in the first round versus losing in the 2nd, if the first round loser is a division winner and the 2nd round loser is not, or if they neither are but the first round loser has a better regular season record, then the first round loser picks later in spite of being eliminated first. Seems off, but that seems to be what the explanation is saying.


And if this is true, it seems to me that Flyers could pick as high as 21st, actually, in at least one scenario: For example, if the conference finalists are: Washington/Islanders vs. Detroit, and Calgary/Canucks versus Minnesota/Chicago. Then 4 of these 7 teams would take 30-26. 25 would be Rangers, 24 Montreal, 23 Anaheim, 22 St Louis, and then TB.
- PT21

you made an arithmetic error. 30-26=5 picks, not 4. Conference finalists pick 30-27.

you made an arithmetic error. 30-26=5 picks, not 4. Conference finalists pick 30-27.
- Adam1

ah indeed.

Sheesh, Hitch just might lose his job.

Sheesh, Hitch just might lose his job.
- SuperSchennBros

time to come home