Maybe not but edmonton gives a good offer and geno says no and all of a sudden the pens leverage goes way down
- eganator

Edm might be like home to Malkin! wonder if he could find a good borscht in that town....

I think the Avs could be a good partner for both teams. 71 centering Mac and Iggy....They can resign ROR, Avs need D though really bad and goaltending. They are a young exciting team to watch that hasn't had a super star since Sakic/Forsberg.
- sammy87

another potential team but their d sucks so bad its got to be their focus.

It's what happened to St. Louis
- eganator

talking to yourself now? pens wont move malkin for moving sakes. Hell, when they bring back stallsy they will have their three center model again! You could have sutter maybe?

Edm might be like home to Malkin! wonder if he could find a good borscht in that town....
- ChrisMS

My point is some team gives an offer the team likes but geno for one reason or another says no here's who i wanna go to and the leverage goes way down for the pens. The Bolts went through a similar saga with St.louis

another potential team but their d sucks so bad its got to be their focus.
- ChrisMS

71+DP or Dumo for Landeskog+Duchene+1st

Good trade for both clubs.

talking to yourself now? pens wont move malkin for moving sakes. Hell, when they bring back stallsy they will have their three center model again! You could have sutter maybe?
- ChrisMS

IDK frank it I'm new to hockey buzz my point is geno can unwittingly kill their leverage

71+DP or Dumo for Landeskog+Duchene+1st

Good trade for both clubs.
- sammy87

Everyone seems to forget the Malkin has A full NO MOVEMENT clause. Any trade would have to be approved by Geno first. He ain't waiving his clause to go to any of the sucky teams...that i can guarantee you. I could see him approving a trade to la, st.louis, wash,van and maybe san jose.

Everyone seems to forget the Malkin has A full NO MOVEMENT clause. Any trade would have to be approved by Geno first. He ain't waiving his clause to go to any of the sucky teams...that i can guarantee you. I could see him approving a trade to la, st.louis, wash,van and maybe san jose.
- joescullz

Thank you so much I have been trying to say this for an hour

Thank you so much I have been trying to say this for an hour
- eganator

From Mackey twitter:

Morehouse: "We’re not looking at major changes. Jim and ownership believe the core players we have are the core players to build around."

IDK frank it I'm new to hockey buzz my point is geno can unwittingly kill their leverage
- eganator

According to every reliable source I've read, ownership has no desire to move him. So this topic is pointless.

According to every reliable source I've read, ownership has no desire to move him. So this topic is pointless.
- madmike71

If they hold on to JR yeah but if they bring in someone else who isn't botteril id say all bets are off

From Mackey twitter:

Morehouse: "We’re not looking at major changes. Jim and ownership believe the core players we have are the core players to build around."
- joescullz

Moorehouse is a disgrace.

Um, do people realize Geno is not being moved. 87, 71, 58, and 29 are the franchise. The rest is interchangeable.
MJ will return as well.

If they hold on to JR yeah but if they bring in someone else who isn't botteril id say all bets are off
- eganator

I disagree. Mario and Burkle would make the call on moving him and according to credible reports, they don't want to trade him.....and they shouldn't.

I disagree. Mario and Burkle would make the call on moving him and according to credible reports, they don't want to trade him.....and they shouldn't.
- madmike71

Exactly, ownership would have to ok a move of that magnitude and they won't do that.

Moorehouse is a disgrace.
- acdc1206

As smart as Burkle and Mario are, how the hell to they trust their team to a politician?
Things have gone down hill since Sawyer left.

Exactly, ownership would have to ok a move of that magnitude and they won't do that.
- usethe1-2-2

Maybe but hiring a gm to do a job then not letting him do it for better or worse seems to be like bad ownership to me.

Maybe but hiring a gm to do a job then not letting him do it for better or worse seems to be like bad ownership to me.
- eganator

You have a president and a hockey ops team too. You can't give one guy total control, that would be bad ownership.

You have a president and a hockey ops team too. You can't give one guy total control, that would be bad ownership.
- usethe1-2-2

I'm not saying he's doing it but Mario could theoretically stock the hockey ops team full of yes men and handcuff botteril which I think he may do in the next year or 2

Um, do people realize Geno is not being moved. 87, 71, 58, and 29 are the franchise. The rest is interchangeable.
MJ will return as well.
- usethe1-2-2

The interchangeable part hasn't been working too well for the past 5 or 6 years.

Everyone seems to forget the Malkin has A full NO MOVEMENT clause. Any trade would have to be approved by Geno first. He ain't waiving his clause to go to any of the sucky teams...that i can guarantee you. I could see him approving a trade to la, st.louis, wash,van and maybe san jose.
- joescullz

AV's are an up and coming team. Good young talent, great city. Id play there over STL.

I'm not saying he's doing it but Mario could theoretically stock the hockey ops team full of yes men and handcuff botteril which I think he may do in the next year or 2
- eganator

I think he has already done that. Mario has surrounded himself by people he trusts, but too many of his buddies.

I think he has already done that. Mario has surrounded himself by people he trusts, but too many of his buddies.
- usethe1-2-2

If that's true I would look elsewhere if I was Botteril

The interchangeable part hasn't been working too well for the past 5 or 6 years.
- sammy87

Poor model under Shero, injuries to the D this season. The constants on this team are the core players 87 71. Why trade what is a constant good? It doesn't make sense.

Keeping 71 you're looking at and I would keep Lap:

39-87-72
X-71-Kap
Kuni-Sutter-X
Spaling-Lap-Wilson/Sund

Bergenheim might be a good pickup for the 3rd line, no idea where to fill the 2F spot. FA isn't really desirable.