Get rid of coach and gm. There is no way you can play 5 of last 7 games with only 5 d-men.

While Rutherford made a couple good moves, trading for Winnick (putting the team up against the cap) Lovejoy and hiring the coach were horrible.

I really don't think the players bought in to the coach. Lets all remember it wasn't until the last game that a playoff spot was secured. Injuries should not be used as an excuse. A few years ago Bylsma took a team without Crosby and Malkin to the 7th game against Tampa Bay. Oh and in that 1 we were a bounce or 2 away from winning.
- acpappas

We were a few bounces away from this being 3-2 pens lead in the series

Not at all with Martin and ehrhoff gone. Why would the pens give their conference rivals a 100+ point player for Lucic and smith? Lucic does not automatically become sids winger. Smith is an average 2nd liner/ideal 3rd liner. That 2nd round pick is crap. As I said before the Bruins would have to vastly overpay if they want the pens to consider trading Malkin to them.
- drummer829

The 2nd is fine half our forwards are 2nd rounders (krecji,Lucic,Bergy for example) and geno 5 years ago was a hundred point player he isn't now in fact lucic and smith combined to outscore him. And I don't think they would because we're probably a team geno would waive for as you guys are with looch.

Get rid of coach and gm. There is no way you can play 5 of last 7 games with only 5 d-men.

While Rutherford made a couple good moves, trading for Winnick (putting the team up against the cap) Lovejoy and hiring the coach were horrible.

I really don't think the players bought in to the coach. Lets all remember it wasn't until the last game that a playoff spot was secured. Injuries should not be used as an excuse. A few years ago Bylsma took a team without Crosby and Malkin to the 7th game against Tampa Bay. Oh and in that 1 we were a bounce or 2 away from winning.
- acpappas

In all honesty... give the Pens Letang, Ehrhoff, and Maatta back and take away Girardi, McDonagh, and Staal... what happens? Or take Keith and Seabrook off of Chicago, or Hedman, Garrison, and Stralman off Tampa...

I don't think it was Johnston's fault. I think he did an admirable job with the lineup that his hand was forced via injuries and GM ineptitude.

Get rid of coach and gm. There is no way you can play 5 of last 7 games with only 5 d-men.

While Rutherford made a couple good moves, trading for Winnick (putting the team up against the cap) Lovejoy and hiring the coach were horrible.

I really don't think the players bought in to the coach. Lets all remember it wasn't until the last game that a playoff spot was secured. Injuries should not be used as an excuse. A few years ago Bylsma took a team without Crosby and Malkin to the 7th game against Tampa Bay. Oh and in that 1 we were a bounce or 2 away from winning.
- acpappas

unfortunately if you are going to blame the coach you have to blame burkle and lemieux... they are the due that f'ed that up. It was almost a phone it in year for both... get a temp gm and a temp coach... throw feces at the wall and gamble... the real rebuild starts in 2015. Course GMJR kinda f'ed that up with some of his deals.

that is dumb... but so was you idea. smith / pasternak / 1st rounder / lucic would be the start of a conversation.... or you would be woefully outbid by 10-15 other teams
- ChrisMS

Jesus christ dude all those guys scored just as much as geno did in the playoffs its not 2011

The 2nd is fine half our forwards are 2nd rounders (krecji,Lucic,Bergy for example) and geno 5 years ago was a hundred point player he isn't now in fact lucic and smith combined to outscore him. And I don't think they would because we're probably a team geno would waive for as you guys are with looch.
- eganator

You're just an idiot if you think Lucic and smith land Malkin. just go away before you make yourself look even more dumb. Malkin is over a 1 ppg player and if he's healthy, he wins the art Ross this year.

Jesus christ dude all those guys scored just as much as geno did in the playoffs its not 2011
- eganator

Exactly, it's not 2011 anymore which means Lucic blows now. Don't be pissy because your GM traded 2 great centers for trash. Doesn't mean the pens will

Jesus christ dude all those guys scored just as much as geno did in the playoffs its not 2011
- eganator

Geno may have been lackluster after he got hurt but prior he was in the running for the art ross. still one of the top 10 if not top 5 forwards in the game. That will cost teams buku to obtain. This is what it cost the stars to obtain a young player with top line potential "Tyler Seguin, Rich Peverley and prospect defenseman Ryan Button, the Stars shipped longtime fan favorite winger Loui Eriksson and prospects Reilly Smith, Joe Morrow and Matt FraserTyler Seguin, Rich Peverley and prospect defenseman Ryan Button, the Stars shipped longtime fan favorite winger Loui Eriksson and prospects Reilly Smith, Joe Morrow and Matt Fraser" so for a young player not in the same realm of Malkin + good role player and a prsopect it cost a top 6 winger, 2 prospects and a depth player. Malkin will be more expensive than that.

You're just an idiot if you think Lucic and smith land Malkin. just go away before you make yourself look even more dumb. Malkin is over a 1 ppg player and if he's healthy, he wins the art Ross this year.
- drummer829

If he's healthy? You mean the guy who has played 75 games once in the last 6 years?

Jesus christ dude all those guys scored just as much as geno did in the playoffs its not 2011
- eganator

Sorry bro, but your offer is trash.

Geno may have been lackluster after he got hurt but prior he was in the running for the art ross. still one of the top 10 if not top 5 forwards in the game. That will cost teams buku to obtain. This is what it cost the stars to obtain a young player with top line potential "Tyler Seguin, Rich Peverley and prospect defenseman Ryan Button, the Stars shipped longtime fan favorite winger Loui Eriksson and prospects Reilly Smith, Joe Morrow and Matt FraserTyler Seguin, Rich Peverley and prospect defenseman Ryan Button, the Stars shipped longtime fan favorite winger Loui Eriksson and prospects Reilly Smith, Joe Morrow and Matt Fraser" so for a young player not in the same realm of Malkin + good role player and a prsopect it cost a top 6 winger, 2 prospects and a depth player. Malkin will be more expensive than that.
- ChrisMS

I keep hearing this before he got hurt song and dance except it happens every damn year and seguin didn't have a ntc which geno does which means he's not waving it to go to winnipeg or edmonton or buffalo or most people who would outbid us.

Sorry bro, but your offer is trash.
- j.boyd919

Yeah it would have been 4 years ago but now you won't do much better at least with teams he would waive to go to.

Yeah it would have been 4 years ago but now you won't do much better at least with teams he would waive to go to.
- eganator

4 years ago, and today. Still trash.

I keep hearing this before he got hurt song and dance except it happens every damn year and seguin didn't have a ntc which geno does which means he's not waving it to go to winnipeg or edmonton or buffalo or most people who would outbid us.
- eganator

Yes because he would rather go to a team riddled with cap issues (he's done that before) who missed the playoffs. Winnipeg, edm(with new leadership and lots of potential), and buffalo (ditto) are all more attractive places right now.

How would you feel if he jets off to Prague and destroys it for Mother Russia next week?

I think the team should put all options on the table. This recipe obviously isn't working. UFA market is not good and the rest of the metro is just getting better. Outside of Kap and Sundquest there are no prospects and they are still unproven. There is no other team outside of the Hawks next year that employ 2 players at this high of a cap.
- sammy87

You're right no other teams have 2 players making as much as Sid and Geno ($18.2 mil) but there are teams close to that. Getzlaf and Perry ($16.9 mil) and Lundqvist and Nash ($16.3). The difference between the Ducks 2 players is $1.3mil for 2 players about to turn 30 in May and $1.9mil for NY with 2 players that are 30 and 33. There's not that much of a difference.

4 years ago, and today. Still trash.
- j.boyd919

If they really want to move him it won't be to much better just watch.

You're right no other teams have 2 players making as much as Sid and Geno ($18.2 mil) but there are teams close to that. Getzlaf and Perry ($16.9 mil) and Lundqvist and Nash ($16.3). The difference between the Ducks 2 players is $1.3mil for 2 players about to turn 30 in May and $1.9mil for NY with 2 players that are 30 and 33. There's not that much of a difference.
- willi

Kane and Toews will combine for more when their megadeals kick in

If they really want to move him it won't be to much better just watch.
- eganator

ok

Yes because he would rather go to a team riddled with cap issues (he's done that before) who missed the playoffs. Winnipeg, edm(with new leadership and lots of potential), and buffalo (ditto) are all more attractive places right now.
- ChrisMS

And somehow we won just as many playoff games this year as all those teams have in the last 5 years combined. Campbell paille soderberg and bartkowski all walking helps alleviate the cap issues.

ok
- j.boyd919

even kessel cost 2 1sts and a 2nd.

whats that make malkin worth?
2 1sts and 2 2nds?
3 1sts and a second?

ok
- j.boyd919

what do you think hell get?

And somehow we won just as many playoff games this year as all those teams have in the last 5 years combined. Campbell paille soderberg and bartkowski all walking helps alleviate the cap issues.
- eganator

Those teams you mentioned are on the upswing.. Boston, with its aging core, is starting whats going to be several long years. Although you do have leonardo dicaprio in net... so I could be wrong

I don't get why people are so adamant that scuds and sutter can be traded. Their contracts suck nobody will want them. We had the same problem with Chris Kelly
- eganator

Sutter can easily be traded.....and will IMO. Scuds, yeah, nobody want's him.

Those teams you mentioned are on the upswing.. Boston, with its aging core, is starting whats going to be several long years. Although you do have leonardo dicaprio in net... so I could be wrong
- ChrisMS

He looks more like an alien but fine and the corps outside of chara isn't really aging Bergeron, Krecji, Marchand, Tuukka, Krug and Hamilton are all on the right side of 30 in fact all of them except bergeron are younger than geno if I'm not mistaken

what do you think hell get?
- eganator

I'm not even going to think about it, because I am not a general manager for an NHL team or the Penguins. Also I'm not going to think about it because I don't think he wants out of Pittsburgh. But I'd rather sit back and watch the off-season than listen to atrocious trade ideas.