Do you take everything at face value?
- sammy87

Do you wear tinfoil hats?

So far I have seen your comments consist of:

What if he demands a trade? What if he runs off to the KHL?

Well, what if he gets hit by a (frank)ing bus tomorrow? poop you cant plan for man. You are so far at grasping at straws as to his mind set or why we should proactively trade him that its just amazing.

I was booed down for this earlier but I still believe in it. I say Lucic, smith, and a second for Malkin. Sid gets an actual power forward who can give him more time and space to do his thing since, ever. Smith can add depth. If the second doesn't make it right away then the cap hit is identical. And we get a situation down the middle similar to the Pens cup team. Two playmaking centers in Krecji and Geno, arguably the best shutdown in the game in Bergy and hell even max talbot

I was booed down for this earlier but I still believe in it. I say Lucic, smith, and a second for Malkin. Sid gets an actual power forward who can give him more time and space to do his thing since, ever. Smith can add depth. If the second doesn't make it right away then the cap hit is identical. And we get a situation down the middle similar to the Pens cup team. Two playmaking centers in Krecji and Geno, arguably the best shutdown in the game in Bergy and hell even max talbot
- eganator

hahahahahaahahahahahahahaajhaha

I was booed down for this earlier but I still believe in it. I say Lucic, smith, and a second for Malkin. Sid gets an actual power forward who can give him more time and space to do his thing since, ever. Smith can add depth. If the second doesn't make it right away then the cap hit is identical. And we get a situation down the middle similar to the Pens cup team. Two playmaking centers in Krecji and Geno, arguably the best shutdown in the game in Bergy and hell even max talbot
- eganator

That's a terrible deal for the pens. So sutter becomes the 2nd line center with Lucic as his winger? Bruins would have to severely overpay to get Malkin, especially since it's with a rival competitive team. It'd be more like krecji, Lucic, smith, 1st.

See, you just proved your a fool. Malkin has said all along he doesn't want to be the face or voice of a franchise. He wants to be in the background. Didn't your hear that from your buddy?


- thickman1178

Yep, thats why when I met him I got his jersey autographed.

I was booed down for this earlier but I still believe in it. I say Lucic, smith, and a second for Malkin. Sid gets an actual power forward who can give him more time and space to do his thing since, ever. Smith can add depth. If the second doesn't make it right away then the cap hit is identical. And we get a situation down the middle similar to the Pens cup team. Two playmaking centers in Krecji and Geno, arguably the best shutdown in the game in Bergy and hell even max talbot
- eganator

Thats a stupid trade from a non-Pens fan point of view.

If you trade Malkin, you trade him for a top 5 pick this year.

That's a terrible deal for the pens. So sutter becomes the 2nd line center with Lucic as his winger? Bruins would have to severely overpay to get Malkin, especially since it's with a rival competitive team. It'd be more like krecji, Lucic, smith, 1st.
- drummer829

Lucic becomes sids winger and theres no chance you guys get most of our first line and a first not to mention your trade adds like 6 mill to your books and thats if the pick doesn't make the team

Kris Letang has no value. I don't know how you came up with that idea based on two factors ... injury history and poopty contract. No one is going to fork over anything close to that for those reasons. He isn't worth anything close to that. I'm not sure someone would fork over a first round pick for him. I wouldn't.

I think Nashville laughs at that.
- Oneonta Penguin

I don't mind if you disagree, just tell me your plan. I'venoticed you say similar tthings to others posts but don'treally dprovide any ssolutions ...

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- j.boyd919

I think that forward lineup is a slight improvement to the roster we iced this year....its much younger, cheaper, skilled, and balanced ...plustwo more blue chip fforwardsin the system. Defense is young and dynamic. The oonly thing Iqquestion in that lineup is Colin Wilson at 2c. there were lots of other options of course...but the main idea was malkin for ypung stud top pairing dman and then frees kektang for a trade.

Lucic becomes sids winger and theres no chance you guys get most of our first line and a first not to mention your trade adds like 6 mill to your books and thats if the pick doesn't make the team
- eganator

You can just stop.

Thats a stupid trade from a non-Pens fan point of view.

If you trade Malkin, you trade him for a top 5 pick this year.
- aecliptic

He didn't do jack in the playoffs right or wrong his price tag has gone down. If they hold on to him for another year it might go back up

The last 5 Stanley Cup champions had 5 players taking up 47-50% of their cap hit. The Penguins have 5 players taking 52% of their cap hit. The problem is not those 5 players. The problem is the supporting cast around those 5 players. It is not a problem created by salary cap contraints. It is a problem created by bad contracts and bad talent evaluations. Injuries also do not help. Drink more protein shakes. Maybe throw some amino acids in there. If the Penguins did their due diligence in talent evaluation, they would be fine. But when you employ players like Scuderi, Lapierre, Adams, Lovejoy, Sill, even Winnik was awful this playoffs... that is not a recipe for success.

Say you take some Kobe Beef from Japan, the highest quality meat you can get... (Malkin, Crosby, Letang, etc.) and decided to make a stir fry... in that stir fry you use some slimy ass mushrooms (Lapierre) some moldy green peppers (Scuderi) some moldy onions (Lovejoy) some.. you see where I'm going... your stir fry is going to be awful.

Again.. it's all about talent evaluation for the supporting cast... problem is not Sid/Geno/etc... the problem is everyone else.
- j.boyd919

True, but those other 5 team still dont have 26% going to 2 players. Those 5 players are more evenly distributed. Add 58 and thats almost 37% to 3 players. Of those 3 they got 0 production out of 2 of them in the playoffs. Not gonna win that way. 87 is still the highest cap hit to win a cup and most likely will stay that way this year.

You can just stop.
- j.boyd919

The counter offer puts you guys over the cap so no not really

See, you just proved your a fool. Malkin has said all along he doesn't want to be the face or voice of a franchise. He wants to be in the background. Didn't your hear that from your buddy?


- thickman1178

You're, a fool BTW.

Do you wear tinfoil hats?

So far I have seen your comments consist of:

What if he demands a trade? What if he runs off to the KHL?

Well, what if he gets hit by a (frank)ing bus tomorrow? poop you cant plan for man. You are so far at grasping at straws as to his mind set or why we should proactively trade him that its just amazing.
- thickman1178

In my case, I'mtalking about ewhat Iwould do, not wwhat I think JR will do....hockey forum 101.

Sorry for the typing... This site doesn'taccept mobile iinput well.

Again first move should be new scouts and give Babcockthe keys as head coach aand GM

He didn't do jack in the playoffs right or wrong his price tag has gone down. If they hold on to him for another year it might go back up
- eganator

Point taken, Pens probably wont get equal value regardless.

But I think priority for the Pens have to be getting Letang and Martin off the books, what they were thinking when they extended Letang for that money baffles me.

Point taken, Pens probably wont get equal value regardless.

But I think priority for the Pens have to be getting Letang and Martin off the books, what they were thinking when they extended Letang for that money baffles me.
- aecliptic

The Bruins have had similar problems getting sentimental with guys who helped bring it home

I think that forward lineup is a slight improvement to the roster we iced this year....its much younger, cheaper, skilled, and balanced ...plustwo more blue chip fforwardsin the system. Defense is young and dynamic. The oonly thing Iqquestion in that lineup is Colin Wilson at 2c. there were lots of other options of course...but the main idea was malkin for ypung stud top pairing dman and then frees kektang for a trade.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Well first off, you have Nyquist on the 2nd line.. with.. Colin Wilson... Nyquist is a perimeter player that plays with 2 of the better centers in the league in Dats and Z and you expect him to excel with Colin Wilson (who is a good hockey player, but he's not Datsyuk or Zetterberg)? You've severely hindered his ability to produce by taking a playmaking center away from him.

2nd... you have Kapenan on the 2nd line, who even knows if he is ready for the big show? Let the kid develop in WBS. No need to bring him up and crush his confidence if he can't do anything. Especially with Colin Wilson (not a slight, but he is no Malkin.) as his center.

3rd... Why would Buffalo trade Grigorenko for Sutter? Also, he has 6 points in 25 games... so you're going to trade away a 20 goal 3rd line center (albeit with his deficincies.. he does score goals.) for a largely unproven young prospect?

4th... Dupuis? Dude's career might be over, I'm not going to bank on him coming back

5th... Winnik was awful. Why?


I don't think this lineup is better than our 2014-15 lineup when everyone is healthy.

Well first off, you have Nyquist on the 2nd line.. with.. Colin Wilson... Nyquist is a perimeter player that plays with 2 of the better centers in the league in Dats and Z and you expect him to excel with Colin Wilson (who is a good hockey player, but he's not Datsyuk or Zetterberg)? You've severely hindered his ability to produce by taking a playmaking center away from him.

2nd... you have Kapenan on the 2nd line, who even knows if he is ready for the big show? Let the kid develop in WBS. No need to bring him up and crush his confidence if he can't do anything. Especially with Colin Wilson (not a slight, but he is no Malkin.) as his center.

3rd... Why would Buffalo trade Grigorenko for Sutter? Also, he has 6 points in 25 games... so you're going to trade away a 20 goal 3rd line center (albeit with his deficincies.. he does score goals.) for a largely unproven young prospect?

4th... Dupuis? Dude's career might be over, I'm not going to bank on him coming back

5th... Winnik was awful. Why?


I don't think this lineup is better than our 2014-15 lineup when everyone is healthy.
- j.boyd919

You dont want Grigorienko, he has "bolting to Russia after struggling in the NHL" all over him.

Thanks for the coverage again this year!


I highly doubt scuds is bought out. with erhoff/martin both likely gone pens will go the "veteran D" route to justify keeping him. letang/pouliot/maatta/dumo/cole/scuds likely will be the top 6... unless they free agentitize

You dont want Grigorienko, he has "bolting to Russia after struggling in the NHL" all over him.
- aecliptic

I don't want that lineup at all.

I don't get why people are so adamant that scuds and sutter can be traded. Their contracts suck nobody will want them. We had the same problem with Chris Kelly

The counter offer puts you guys over the cap so no not really
- eganator

Not at all with Martin and ehrhoff gone. Why would the pens give their conference rivals a 100+ point player for Lucic and smith? Lucic does not automatically become sids winger. Smith is an average 2nd liner/ideal 3rd liner. That 2nd round pick is crap. As I said before the Bruins would have to vastly overpay if they want the pens to consider trading Malkin to them.

Get rid of coach and gm. There is no way you can play 5 of last 7 games with only 5 d-men.

While Rutherford made a couple good moves, trading for Winnick (putting the team up against the cap) Lovejoy and hiring the coach were horrible.

I really don't think the players bought in to the coach. Lets all remember it wasn't until the last game that a playoff spot was secured. Injuries should not be used as an excuse. A few years ago Bylsma took a team without Crosby and Malkin to the 7th game against Tampa Bay. Oh and in that 1 we were a bounce or 2 away from winning.

Lucic becomes sids winger and theres no chance you guys get most of our first line and a first not to mention your trade adds like 6 mill to your books and thats if the pick doesn't make the team
- eganator

that is dumb... but so was you idea. smith / pasternak / 1st rounder / lucic would be the start of a conversation.... or you would be woefully outbid by 10-15 other teams