Looks like everyone has given up on the year and we are back to talking about how we suck.

I dont think we are that far off. We obviously need forwards, there are teams out there with decent forward prospects that are seriously hurting for dmen.

Edmonton - They have to trade one of their wonderkids for defensive help. I personally think they are going to target Seth Jones, and that has the making of a good hockey trade. But if that doesnt happen, we do have the pieces in our prospects to get one of Eberle or Yakupov. Pouliot for Eberle?

Vancouver - If there is a team that needs defensive prospects more than Edmonton its Vancouver. Kassian is going to get traded, for whatever reason that team has soured on him. I personally think Kassian is a perfect fit for Malkin, he is big, can skate, and has hands. Bennett + Harrington/Dumo for Kassian + 2nd

Dallas - They need a dman to QB their PP. Nichuchkin (sp) is a match made in heaven for Geno. Pouliot +

I'd look to resign: Comeau and Winnik

I'd look to trade: Perron, Kapanen (I think he's a bust, injured constantly)

UFAs I would look at are Matthias, Frolik, Booth
- stackthepads

Dallas has Klingberg and Gologoski to QB their PP.

Not saying Dan shouldn't have been fired, but if we are basing it off of that, Mike Babcock has only won 3 playoff series since 2009.
- rival22

Legit point, but Babcock hasn't had Sid and Geno in their prime. Yes, they've got a couple of good/great players but those guys are getting old. I don't compare the two rosters at all the last couple of years.

The year we lost to the B's was a disgrace. Dan made his first adjustment in game 3.

Wings look good tonight! A wings/Habs series would be pretty entertaining!

You get a little Sensitive when I guy uses logic
- way out west

What you said wasn't logic. It was meant to be inflammatory. So you got the appropriate response.

Legit point, but Babcock hasn't had Sid and Geno in their prime. Yes, they've got a couple of good/great players but those guys are getting old. I don't compare the two rosters at all the last couple of years.

The year we lost to the B's was a disgrace. Dan made his first adjustment in game 3.
- madmike71

He also kept Iggy on his off wing and a 4th liner with 87.

Dallas has Klingberg and Gologoski to QB their PP.
- rangerdanger94

I guess...

But thanks for bringing up another team that needs a PP quarterback.

Rangers - This team is being gifted PP after PP in the playoffs and cant score worth a damn. Pouliot for Nash

I guess...

But thanks for bringing up another team that needs a PP quarterback.

Rangers - This team is being gifted PP after PP in the playoffs and cant score worth a damn. Pouliot for Nash
- stackthepads

I don't think Nash would waive his NTC.

We've gotten so many PP QBs over the years and they've all failed. Richards, Boyle, Yandle just from the last 2 years. Brutal.

im still convinced malkin can be a part of the long term solution.

he can still be the dynamite engine. we just currently have absolutely no tires to put on the car. that doesnt make me want to replace the engine. we just need to figure out how to put better tires on the car to realize the engines true potential.

although i do see your point as well. what good is having an incredible car if you cant afford to ever put gas in the tank. youd be better off with a lesser model you can actually drive. its just frustrating.
- stayinthefnnet

You have to get Malkin capable wingers to make him part of the solution. How you acquire those wingers is the major problem since we have nothing on the farm; no draft picks and little to trade.

He also kept Iggy on his off wing and a 4th liner with 87.
- sammy87

Yup. The thing I always like to cite is Dan made his first change in personnel on the PP in game 4. Second to last chance for them in the series. He replaced Letang with Martin.

Meanwhile a legendary sniper (Iggy) with his right handed bomb never once got a chance on the first unit. Incompetence or stubborn......take your choice. I happen to believe he was stubborn....which is worse IMO.

DK did a great article on Dan. Basically would rather lose if he couldn't win HIS way.

To San Jose: Malkin, Bennett, Domoulin

To Pittsburgh: Couture, Wringles, Glodobin, Dillion, 1st
- Willaged

The thought of me having to root for Couture would make me vomit.

Interesting thought though.

So Daniel Winnick, Max Lapierre, Nick Spaling, Ben Lovejoy and Jim Rutherford are to blame for Paul Martin letting Kevin Hayes get position and tap in the winning goal. I think I've heard it all now. Please quit making excuses for the guy, he is a decent 3-4 defenseman, nothing more.

So Daniel Winnick, Max Lapierre, Nick Spaling, Ben Lovejoy and Jim Rutherford are to blame for Paul Martin letting Kevin Hayes get position and tap in the winning goal. I think I've heard it all now. Please quit making excuses for the guy, he is a decent 3-4 defenseman, nothing more.
- Thunderbolt

That's right, he's not a 1, but he's forced into that roll. Been playing nearly 30mins a night for a month. He's not 25 either. Lot's of culpability on that goal.

So Daniel Winnick, Max Lapierre, Nick Spaling, Ben Lovejoy and Jim Rutherford are to blame for Paul Martin letting Kevin Hayes get position and tap in the winning goal. I think I've heard it all now. Please quit making excuses for the guy, he is a decent 3-4 defenseman, nothing more.
- Thunderbolt

No, but he is to blame for Lapierre being on the roster. Lap Dog let Hagelin get to the puck and then he quit on the play and literally lied down face first in the crease instead of preventing Hayes from scoring.

That's right, he's not a 1, but he's forced into that roll. Been playing nearly 30mins a night for a month. He's not 25 either. Lot's of culpability on that goal.
- madmike71

Martin is a nice compliment guy to Letang no doubt, but he can't be a teams #1 for sure.

I don't think Nash would waive his NTC.

We've gotten so many PP QBs over the years and they've all failed. Richards, Boyle, Yandle just from the last 2 years. Brutal.
- rangerdanger94

Doesn't solve either of our team's problems anyways. We take on another massive contract and you guys lose your main shooter on the PP. I think he was joking about that proposal though.

Wow. Detroit just puked on themselves.

Something that hasn't been acknowledged at all is how it appears (not sure if true, but certainly looks as though) management made no attempt to woo Hayes over to Pittsburgh. Opportunities like that come around once in a blue moon and would go a long way to help a franchise that is dry on assets. If we don't make a play this offseason during the KHL exodus, I may just start throwing molotov cocktails into random store windows. I understand that its not likely we get any "free" prospects, but goddammit we have to try.

Martin is a nice compliment guy to Letang no doubt, but he can't be a teams #1 for sure.
- znagle

Maatta and Letang were killing it to start the year.

Something that hasn't been acknowledged at all is how it appears (not sure if true, but certainly looks as though) management made no attempt to woo Hayes over to Pittsburgh. Opportunities like that come around once in a blue moon and would go a long way to help a franchise that is dry on assets. If we don't make a play this offseason during the KHL exodus, I may just start throwing molotov cocktails into random store windows. I understand that its not likely we get any "free" prospects, but goddammit we have to try.
- Victoro311

Especially with all of our cap space this off season.. There will most likely be some good players available still. Imagine Panarin with Geno.

Maatta and Letang were killing it to start the year.
- madmike71

At least we can look forward to that next year

At least we can look forward to that next year
- znagle

Especially with all of our cap space this off season.. There will most likely be some good players available still. Imagine Panarin with Geno.
- znagle

It's a personal wet dream of mine, assuming that Panarin and his small frame and crafty skating translate.

It's a personal wet dream of mine, assuming that Panarin and his small frame and crafty skating translate.
- Victoro311

Same, it's worth a shot. Kane who he's compared to doesn't have a big frame either. Worth a gamble when we don't have any picks. I'd rather sign him to a cheap deal than the next Craig Adams. Hell, we can use his money for him.

Same, it's worth a shot. Kane who he's compared to doesn't have a big frame either. Worth a gamble when we don't have any picks. I'd rather sign him to a cheap deal than the next Craig Adams. Hell, we can use his money for him.
- znagle

Trust me you don't have to convince me. I'm all for taking a flyer on Panara Bread

Something that hasn't been acknowledged at all is how it appears (not sure if true, but certainly looks as though) management made no attempt to woo Hayes over to Pittsburgh. Opportunities like that come around once in a blue moon and would go a long way to help a franchise that is dry on assets. If we don't make a play this offseason during the KHL exodus, I may just start throwing molotov cocktails into random store windows. I understand that its not likely we get any "free" prospects, but goddammit we have to try.
- Victoro311

Not too long ago, we didn't have a first or a second round pick due to the forking over of assets for rentals. We supplemented a shortcoming by signing Erik Hartzell out of Qpac as an undrafted free agent. He was thought as being the best goalie out there on the market and we were certainly in need of that. While he has been a bust, his signing served a purpose. With our MO of forking over great assets for more rentals and fourth line players from Edmonton, the need was there to supplement our lack of depth at forward. Casey Bailey was right there to be had. The Pens didn't step up. This is one of the ways the organization can supplement these foolish ideas. The kid in the KHL would be another prime example.