To San Jose: Malkin, Bennett, Domoulin

To Pittsburgh: Couture, Wringles, Glodobin, Dillion, 1st
- Willaged

Looking at this, the salaries are close, as is the production (looking at Dumo and Goldobins AHL #s). The only part thats off is the Pens lose out on an 8 year contract with Malkin for a lot of smaller term contracts. And if Im San Jose, no way I give a pick in addition to all that.

San Jose may not want to give up youth prospects for one who hasn't really shown any NHL capability and is often injured in Bennett. Also, Coture and Wringles are both Centers, which wouldn't help our winger problem.

Not the worst proposal Ive seen though.

That is the part that kills. I don't mind the trades like Bortuzzo (pending RFA) for Cole (pending RFA) or Goc (pending UFA) for Lapierre (pending UFA). Swaping assets in that way gives you something different, but still of equal value makes perfect sense. You could add the Neal for Hornquvist + Spaling to that list as well as the Perron trade.

What kills still is the Despres (23yrs old, $900K for 1 more season & then still a RFA) for Lovejoy (31yrs old, $1.1M for 1 more season & then a UFA). The Winnik for a 2nd + 4th, Stempniak for a 3rd, Iginlia for a 1st, Murray for two 2nds, and B. Morrow & 3rd for a 1st & J. Morrow. Just this mindset of throwing away picks & younger players year after year after year...
- s0rcerer1984

Looking at this, the salaries are close, as is the production (looking at Dumo and Goldobins AHL #s). The only part thats off is the Pens lose out on an 8 year contract with Malkin for a lot of smaller term contracts. And if Im San Jose, no way I give a pick in addition to all that.

San Jose may not want to give up youth prospects for one who hasn't really shown any NHL capability and is often injured in Bennett. Also, Coture and Wringles are both Centers, which wouldn't help our winger problem.

Not the worst proposal Ive seen though.
- thickman1178

This is fun to read but Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Maatta, Horny and Fleury are not being moved. I don't think Scuderi will be traded or bought out until Letang and Maatta are back... Duper is untradeable...

Pens chips are Kuntiz, Bennett, Sutter and the young d men... With teams like Boston possibly looking to move Errickson and Chicago looking to move Sharp for cap reasons perhaps the Pens find a deal (both had down years and have significantly higher cap numbers then Kuni)

You're right it is a joke, Moore got a penalty that was another Pens embellishment, find the gif of that, it was priceless to see that bum laying in the crease as the puck went in, should have put it off his ugly mug
- HankdaTank

And yet it was still interference so there should have been a call anyway.

Looking at this, the salaries are close, as is the production (looking at Dumo and Goldobins AHL #s). The only part thats off is the Pens lose out on an 8 year contract with Malkin for a lot of smaller term contracts. And if Im San Jose, no way I give a pick in addition to all that.

San Jose may not want to give up youth prospects for one who hasn't really shown any NHL capability and is often injured in Bennett. Also, Coture and Wringles are both Centers, which wouldn't help our winger problem.

Not the worst proposal Ive seen though.
- thickman1178

I pretty sure Wringles can play center and wing. Not that I want to use this comparison on this board, but very Spaling like! Lol

This is fun to read but Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Maatta, Horny and Fleury are not being moved. I don't think Scuderi will be traded or bought out until Letang and Maatta are back... Duper is untradeable...

Pens chips are Kuntiz, Bennett, Sutter and the young d men... With teams like Boston possibly looking to move Errickson and Chicago looking to move Sharp for cap reasons perhaps the Pens find a deal (both had down years and have significantly higher cap numbers then Kuni)
- Brianandr1

I agree completely. But I would never say never. If the right trade comes along to improve out depth and keep the same production, we would have to pull the trigger on it. The question would be if Geno would waive his NMC.

This is fun to read but Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Maatta, Horny and Fleury are not being moved. I don't think Scuderi will be traded or bought out until Letang and Maatta are back... Duper is untradeable...

Pens chips are Kuntiz, Bennett, Sutter and the young d men... With teams like Boston possibly looking to move Errickson and Chicago looking to move Sharp for cap reasons perhaps the Pens find a deal (both had down years and have significantly higher cap numbers then Kuni)
- Brianandr1

I will trade you my trash for your treasure.

Our defense is fine. The Rags aren't that good of a team. Our problem is offense. Even when healthy we have scored 1-2 goals a game going back months.
- znagle

Yeap. The team who won the presidents trophy and is up 3-1 in the series isn't a good team. Come on man, they're a great team. Pittsburgh is good but beat up. No team has the depth on d to survive a series. But the Rangers are scoring goals when it matters. They'll probably win the cup and at the very least come out of the east.

This is fun to read but Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Maatta, Horny and Fleury are not being moved. I don't think Scuderi will be traded or bought out until Letang and Maatta are back... Duper is untradeable...

Pens chips are Kuntiz, Bennett, Sutter and the young d men... With teams like Boston possibly looking to move Errickson and Chicago looking to move Sharp for cap reasons perhaps the Pens find a deal (both had down years and have significantly higher cap numbers then Kuni)
- Brianandr1

Put Letang in the untradeable category as well. We have little to trade that can bring back good assets.

I will trade you my trash for your treasure.
- sammy87

Exactly ... I don't consider Kunitz or Sutter trash, but they don't have significant value to bring in assets that help.

Exactly ... I don't consider Kunitz or Sutter trash, but they don't have significant value to bring in assets that help.
- Oneonta Penguin

and even if they do, they dont have enough value to have the return coming back be so great that it provides an upgrade somewhere else while simultaneously filling the hole that their departure creates

I will trade you my trash for your treasure.
- sammy87

Kunitz had a down year but has value... Sutter had 21 G ... there not trash... nor are Pouliot, Dumo and Harrington... do I think the Pens are getting Hall or Eberle no... but it does not mean they cant be moved for valuable pieces....

The Malkin trade talk is laughable... 1) he's not waiving his no trade to go to edm... 2) Ownership will not move him... Malkin is a generational talent.... will never receive fair value... Hypothetically ... 2 legit top 6 forwards, a top 4 d man and a 1st.... not happening

Didnt know this but Pens can recoup picks if Shero and Disco get a job.

http://www.pensburgh.com/...lsma-ray-shero-nhl-rumors

Kunitz had a down year but has value... Sutter had 21 G ... there not trash... nor are Pouliot, Dumo and Harrington... do I think the Pens are getting Hall or Eberle no... but it does not mean they cant be moved for valuable pieces....

The Malkin trade talk is laughable... 1) he's not waiving his no trade to go to edm... 2) Ownership will not move him... Malkin is a generational talent.... will never receive fair value... Hypothetically ... 2 legit top 6 forwards, a top 4 d man and a 1st.... not happening
- Brianandr1

i just dont think the pens are in the position to snag a cap casualty guy like a sharp.

they dont have their first. they dont have any forward prospects or ELCs to pawn. i do think kunitz could be traded, but he would probably bring back a pick or two instead.

And yet it was still interference so there should have been a call anyway.
- thickman1178

I'm convinced everything is interference. Players should just move out of the way of the opposition.

Kunitz had a down year but has value... Sutter had 21 G ... there not trash... nor are Pouliot, Dumo and Harrington... do I think the Pens are getting Hall or Eberle no... but it does not mean they cant be moved for valuable pieces....

The Malkin trade talk is laughable... 1) he's not waiving his no trade to go to edm... 2) Ownership will not move him... Malkin is a generational talent.... will never receive fair value... Hypothetically ... 2 legit top 6 forwards, a top 4 d man and a 1st.... not happening
- Brianandr1

Kuni lands a 2nd and prospect. Move Sutter you still need a 3C. If what RW says is true, GM's actually care about fancy stats then Sutter is worthless. He has 1 yr left and is more valuable to the Pens at this point than what he would return. If Despres landed Lovejoy, I hate to see what Dumo and Harrington bring back.

Yes 71 is a generational talent who put up 69 pts this year, cant score in the playoffs and is hurt all the time. I know he won a Conn Smythe 6 years ago. But he might waive his NTC if he is saddled with a 36 yr old Kunitz and Comeau again.

I'm convinced everything is interference. Players should just move out of the way of the opposition.
- rangerdanger94

the reffing was pretty quiet on both sides last night. which isnt in my personal taste, but its still largely fair when viewed through a relative lens.

but yes. that play being shown on sutter being pushed against the boards while going for a puck is, by definition, interference.

just like the hook that comeau took that a lot of people didnt like, is by its very definition hooking.

Kuni lands a 2nd and prospect. Move Sutter you still need a 3C. If what RW says is true, GM's actually care about fancy stats then Sutter is worthless. He has 1 yr left and is more valuable to the Pens at this point than what he would return. If Despres landed Lovejoy, I hate to see what Dumo and Harrington bring back.

Yes 71 is a generational talent who put up 69 pts this year, cant score in the playoffs and is hurt all the time. I know he won a Conn Smythe 6 years ago. But he might waive his NTC if he is saddled with a 36 yr old Kunitz and Comeau again.
- sammy87

im still convinced malkin can be a part of the long term solution.

he can still be the dynamite engine. we just currently have absolutely no tires to put on the car. that doesnt make me want to replace the engine. we just need to figure out how to put better tires on the car to realize the engines true potential.

although i do see your point as well. what good is having an incredible car if you cant afford to ever put gas in the tank. youd be better off with a lesser model you can actually drive. its just frustrating.

Kuni lands a 2nd and prospect. Move Sutter you still need a 3C. If what RW says is true, GM's actually care about fancy stats then Sutter is worthless. He has 1 yr left and is more valuable to the Pens at this point than what he would return. If Despres landed Lovejoy, I hate to see what Dumo and Harrington bring back.

Yes 71 is a generational talent who put up 69 pts this year, cant score in the playoffs and is hurt all the time. I know he won a Conn Smythe 6 years ago. But he might waive his NTC if he is saddled with a 36 yr old Kunitz and Comeau again.
- sammy87

Malkin played 69 games this season ... and at least 10 hurt...its been speculated he s playing with a back injury in the playoffs... can we please attempt to be objective here?????

Holland and maybe Yzerman are the only GMs that seem to have a consistently better than random success rate in drafting/developing picks. Shero was actually pretty good with NA puck moving dmen but worthless at anything else. Rutherford has a mediocre at best history with that.
- jfkst1

well at least he didn't draft zach hamill the very pick before logan couture

haha why cant you just be happy with advancing dude?
- stayinthefnnet

They don't have a problem with the officiating since they have had a ridiculous amount more PPs than the opposition the past two postseasons. Even when the proof is right in their faces they won't admit it.

Malkin played 69 games this season ... and at least 10 hurt...its been speculated he s playing with a back injury in the playoffs... can we please attempt to be objective here?????
- Brianandr1

I think you move Letang before 87 or 71.

well at least he didn't draft zach hamill the very pick before logan couture
- eganator

We've got some of those same stories.

Well it was written by Detroit, so that's expected. I'm willing to bet TBay has some beauties over there. But Abdelkader... How the F? Dude is ugly as hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtSDWq6HsJE
- znagle

She must be blind...like the refs.

They don't have a problem with the officiating since they have had a ridiculous amount more PPs than the opposition the past two postseasons. Even when the proof is right in their faces they won't admit it.
- acdc1206

I think the only thing that proves is the Rangers are a disciplined team.