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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 21 @ 4:57 PM ET
Keep drafting defense hope Hanifin falls.
Nobody has more value in trades than top 4 defenders

- Winning


spoken like ray shero himself
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 21 @ 4:58 PM ET
Potentially bad cap news


ugh

http://www.theglobeandmai...declines/article24040463/

- Jsaquella

The flyers do not have a cap problem.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 21 @ 4:59 PM ET
Other teams stand to get hurt just as much if not more than the Flyers.

- MBFlyerfan


It's just more difficult to move bad contracts now. The cap ceiling going down means the cap floor goes down as well.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 21 @ 5:04 PM ET
Your fascination with Archer is disturbing.
- jmatchett383


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 21 @ 5:04 PM ET
(frank), getting rid of Vinny and Umberger may be next to impossible now except via buyouts
- BiggE


Buying Vinny out makes very little sense because of the way his contract was structured. His cap hit would be something like $3.1M for the next 3 years then $1.5M for another 3 years.

It would probably be more beneficial to the Flyers to let Umberger play out another season or just waive him to the AHL.

They're in a difficult spot. If the cap is only $68M, they're basically right up against it (including Pronger's LTIR). They still need a backup goalie and to sign MDZ. Leaves very little space to do anything else other than add depth
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Apr 21 @ 5:07 PM ET
Buying Vinny out makes very little sense. His cap hit would be something like $3.1M for the next 3 years then $1.5M for another 3 years.

It would probably be more beneficial to the Flyers to let Umberger play out another season or just waive him to the AHL.

They're in a difficult spot. If the cap is only $68M, they're basically right up against it (including Pronger's LTIR). They still need a backup goalie and to sign MDZ. Leaves very little space to do anything else other than add depth

- PhillySportsGuy


Maybe they can find another guy overseas. They seem to be getting a good track record with that with guys like PEB and raffl. Maybe they can find a guy like one of them, and sign him dirt cheap.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 21 @ 5:08 PM ET
Rob Ford's hitting the pipe again

Rob Ford @TorontoRobFord · 32m 32 minutes ago

There's going to be a lot of rebuilding, but 2 players the @MapleLeafs need to hang on to for sure are Eric Brewer and Zach Sill

Rob Ford @TorontoRobFord · 31m 31 minutes ago

The @MapleLeafs need to bring on Mike Babcock as their new GM and Mike Keenan as the new head coach.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 21 @ 5:09 PM ET
Maybe they can find another guy overseas. They seem to be getting a good track record with that with guys like PEB and raffl. Maybe they can find a guy like one of them, and sign him dirt cheap.
- benjichronic


Thats pretty much what I would be looking to do. Look for amateur and international FAs and try like hell to move salary.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 21 @ 5:10 PM ET
Rob Ford's hitting the pipe again

Rob Ford @TorontoRobFord · 32m 32 minutes ago

There's going to be a lot of rebuilding, but 2 players the @MapleLeafs need to hang on to for sure are Eric Brewer and Zach Sill

Rob Ford @TorontoRobFord · 31m 31 minutes ago

The @MapleLeafs need to bring on Mike Babcock as their new GM and Mike Keenan as the new head coach.

- Jsaquella

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 21 @ 5:10 PM ET
Buying Vinny out makes very little sense because of the way his contract was structured. His cap hit would be something like $3.1M for the next 3 years then $1.5M for another 3 years.

It would probably be more beneficial to the Flyers to let Umberger play out another season or just waive him to the AHL.

They're in a difficult spot. If the cap is only $68M, they're basically right up against it (including Pronger's LTIR). They still need a backup goalie and to sign MDZ. Leaves very little space to do anything else other than add depth

- PhillySportsGuy


Actually, Vinny's buyout isn't that bad. According to war on ice's buyout calculator it's $2.889mm for 2 years, $2.389mm for one and $889K for three years
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 21 @ 5:12 PM ET
Actually, Vinny's buyout isn't that bad. IIRC it's $2.33mm for 2 years, $2.7mm for one and under $900K for three years
- Jsaquella


Where did you get this information!?!?!?!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 21 @ 5:12 PM ET
Potentially bad cap news


ugh

http://www.theglobeandmai...declines/article24040463/

- Jsaquella


More salary cap panic... mountain out of a molehill... some fans have an agenda.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 21 @ 5:13 PM ET
Where did you get this information!?!?!?!
- PhillySportsGuy


See edit.
ttp://war-on-ice.com/captools.html?woiid=lecavvi80
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 21 @ 5:16 PM ET
See edit.
ttp://war-on-ice.com/captools.html?woiid=lecavvi80

- Jsaquella


Ok, so I wasn't that far off. Still not great though.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 21 @ 5:16 PM ET
Yes. One ticket for each member of the HB family
- PhillySportsGuy


You, my friend, are back on my Christmas list, and no gift is too good for you!

Not to spoil it, but your present is going to rhyme with Fafa Wift Bard. Start getting excited.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 21 @ 5:16 PM ET
Buying Vinny out makes very little sense because of the way his contract was structured. His cap hit would be something like $3.1M for the next 3 years then $1.5M for another 3 years.

It would probably be more beneficial to the Flyers to let Umberger play out another season or just waive him to the AHL.

They're in a difficult spot. If the cap is only $68M, they're basically right up against it (including Pronger's LTIR). They still need a backup goalie and to sign MDZ. Leaves very little space to do anything else other than add depth

- PhillySportsGuy

Vinny's buyout numbers arent quite that bad but close. They really need to at least move either Grossmann or L Schenn just to get a little breathing room.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 21 @ 5:17 PM ET
Ok, so I wasn't that far off. Still not great though.
- PhillySportsGuy


I'd strongly consider a buy out on him. It's a bad situation. They need to lose the guy, and hope expansion fees negates the cap penalties
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 21 @ 5:19 PM ET
More salary cap panic... mountain out of a molehill... some fans have an agenda.
- Tomahawk

A lot of hyperbole being thrown around. If the flyers need cap space they can just make a trade
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 21 @ 5:21 PM ET
Actually, Vinny's buyout isn't that bad. According to war on ice's buyout calculator it's $2.889mm for 2 years, $2.389mm for one and $889K for three years
- Jsaquella


Just bite the bullet IMO. Keep Corpseburger around hope he rebounds
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 21 @ 5:22 PM ET
I'd strongly consider a buy out on him. It's a bad situation. They need to lose the guy, and hope expansion fees negates the cap penalties
- Jsaquella


I just hate the idea of having dead cap space for 6 years
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Apr 21 @ 5:23 PM ET
Just bite the bullet IMO. Keep Corpseburger around hope he rebounds
- Just5



You have to assume he'll rebound and have a better season than he did this past one. If he was truly injured, and he is truly 100% next season, I expect some more from him.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 21 @ 5:23 PM ET
A lot of hyperbole being thrown around. If the flyers need cap space they can just make a trade
- Just5



Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 21 @ 5:23 PM ET
I just hate the idea of having dead cap space for 6 years
- PhillySportsGuy


As do I, but as it stands they have dead space now, and it's in a uniform
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 21 @ 5:24 PM ET
beyond livid that my Eakins questions went unanswered
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 21 @ 5:25 PM ET
Sorry if Leight

Just found this interesting.

http://www.startribune.co...ports/wild/300749891.html
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