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willi
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.30.2015

Apr 21 @ 2:18 PM ET
I doubt LA and Boston would want to make those moves as they were pushing for the playoffs. Volchenkov is awful. I don't think Hannan and/or Irwin are more than a lateral move. Gleason would have been nice, though.
- jmatchett383


I'm not sure about Gleason. He kinda looks like a phsical Rob Scuderi now. He lacks foot speed....wonder if the Oilers would've eaten half of Petry's contract for Despres?
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 21 @ 2:19 PM ET
Which UFA was available to provide what Perron (theoretically) can do for $4M or less?
- jmatchett383


WitHout doing a whole ton of research:
Kulemin
Jokinen (could have been resigned)
Benoit Pouliot
Stempniak (could have been resigned)

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 21 @ 2:23 PM ET
WitHout doing a whole ton of research:
Kulemin
Jokinen (could have been resigned)
Benoit Pouliot
Stempniak (could have been resigned)

- Emperor Filonius


Jokinen should have been resigned, I'll give you that.
stowerkraut
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: He fit in the lineup like Edgar Winter in the Wu-Tang Clan, PA
Joined: 01.13.2015

Apr 21 @ 2:24 PM ET
WitHout doing a whole ton of research:
Kulemin
Jokinen (could have been resigned)
Benoit Pouliot
Stempniak (could have been resigned)

- Emperor Filonius



Kulemin w/ Geno, Soderberg at 3C, Belesky in bottom 6 and Fehr in bottom 6 next year. No reason that can't happen with Martin, Hoff walking + Sutter trade. Try to get Downie, Winnik, Comeau on similar deals.
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Apr 21 @ 2:26 PM ET
Jokinen should have been resigned, I'll give you that.
- jmatchett383


He got a 4yr 16mil deal, he'll be 36 when it's up. He chased the money to cash in on his last deal. He would have been great here still, he averaged around .5ppg this year.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 21 @ 2:28 PM ET
Lil bit of both.
- jmatchett383

Two picks and a whole lotta laughing
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 21 @ 2:33 PM ET
Here is more realistic list IMO. Non-FA's included that I'd take over Lovejoy.

Michael Del Zotto Defenseman $1,300,000
Brendan Smith Defenseman $1,262,500
Nick Schultz Defenseman $1,250,000
Eric Gryba Defenseman $1,250,000
Justin Braun Defenseman $1,250,000
Matt Bartkowski Defenseman $1,250,000
James Wisniewski Defenseman $1,212,365
Michael Stone Defenseman $1,150,000
Alec Martinez Defenseman $1,100,000

- stowerkraut


You also have to look at whether those teams would trade them for Despres.

MDZ is an RFA and the best (only) puck-moving defenseman on the Flyers. Plus, there's no way Pittsburgh and Philly would trade those 2 for each other.

Brendan Smith probably could have been had.

If the Penguins wanted to give up Despres for Schultz, I'd have paid for Schultz' plane ticket. Dude got off to a hot start and gradually cooled to a #7.

Gryba provides a lot of muscle and..well, that's it. I'd take Lovejoy.

Braun would probably work.

Bartkowski, again, is probably not as good as Lovejoy.

The Penguins could not have matched what CBJ got for Wiz (2nd rounder, Willia Karlsson, Rene Bourque)

Phoenix is not moving Michael Stone any time soon.

Alec Martinez would be tough. He had a down season, but LA was in playoff spot at the time and he still had 6G and 16A. I think they're looking to him for the future with Voynov gone.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 21 @ 2:35 PM ET
Two picks and a whole lotta laughing
- Isles_since_6


How dare you omit Matt Mangene, the pride and joy of...wherever he's from.
willi
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.30.2015

Apr 21 @ 2:45 PM ET
You also have to look at whether those teams would trade them for Despres.

MDZ is an RFA and the best (only) puck-moving defenseman on the Flyers. Plus, there's no way Pittsburgh and Philly would trade those 2 for each other.

Brendan Smith probably could have been had.

If the Penguins wanted to give up Despres for Schultz, I'd have paid for Schultz' plane ticket. Dude got off to a hot start and gradually cooled to a #7.

Gryba provides a lot of muscle and..well, that's it. I'd take Lovejoy.

Braun would probably work.

Bartkowski, again, is probably not as good as Lovejoy.

The Penguins could not have matched what CBJ got for Wiz (2nd rounder, Willia Karlsson, Rene Bourque)

Phoenix is not moving Michael Stone any time soon.

Alec Martinez would be tough. He had a down season, but LA was in playoff spot at the time and he still had 6G and 16A. I think they're looking to him for the future with Voynov gone.

- jmatchett383


And no way LA moves Martinez. They are very high on him. They gave him ~$4mil per extension....and Wiz is $5 mil a year so he wouldn't have worked
deadmau5
St Louis Blues
Location: i will jmatchett you before you can say sorry, MA
Joined: 10.28.2010

Apr 21 @ 2:52 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: Why Pittsburgh Failed In Game 3 + Rutherford On His Way Out?
Why Pittsburgh Failed In Game 3 + Rutherford On His Way Out?

- Ryan_Wilson

They failed because they suck. What a waste
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 21 @ 2:55 PM ET
How dare you omit Matt Mangene, the pride and joy of...wherever he's from.
- jmatchett383

Long Island
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Apr 21 @ 2:56 PM ET
They failed because they suck. What a waste
- deadmau5


How did the Blues do last night? Tarasenko scored a hat trick (-3). Good for him.

BTW, are you Flashman?? There was a troll named Flashman (MTL fan) on ESPN Pens Game boards (before they went to Facebook) who would show his face after a Pens loss with something similarly profound.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 21 @ 3:02 PM ET
He got a 4yr 16mil deal, he'll be 36 when it's up. He chased the money to cash in on his last deal. He would have been great here still, he averaged around .5ppg this year.
- znagle


I really liked JJ, he played great with 71 and knew how to play to his strengths. I dont blame him for cashing in. He was put on waivers 2x.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Apr 21 @ 3:02 PM ET
How did the Blues do last night? Tarasenko scored a hat trick (-3). Good for him.

BTW, are you Flashman?? There was a troll named Flashman (MTL fan) on ESPN Pens Game boards (before they went to Facebook) who would show his face after a Pens loss with something similarly profound.

- chimpira


I miss those old ESPN boards (before the FB login). They were so much fun. Fans from Detroit, Chicago, and Minnesota turned it into a circus.
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Apr 21 @ 3:05 PM ET
I miss those old ESPN boards (before the FB login). They were so much fun. Fans from Detroit, Chicago, and Minnesota turned it into a circus.
- jfkst1


Did you use the same handle there? I think I remember a "jfkst" something. There was a gal named Catherine ... I think she wrote for a hockey blog or something.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Apr 21 @ 3:07 PM ET
Did you use the same handle there? I think I remember a "jfkst" something. There was a gal named Catherine ... I think she wrote for a hockey blog or something.
- chimpira


Yep. I remember her. Canadian. Those boards were so active during games it was fun.
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Apr 21 @ 3:09 PM ET
Yep. I remember her. Canadian. Those boards were so active during games it was fun.
- jfkst1


F FACEBOOK, F ESPN.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Apr 21 @ 3:14 PM ET
F FACEBOOK, F ESPN.
- chimpira


I don't even have FB so i never go on there anymore. They don't cover much hockey anyway. It's basically Tebow, LeBron, and the NFL.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 21 @ 3:41 PM ET
Long Island
- eichiefs9


Manuresville is on Long Island?
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Apr 21 @ 3:53 PM ET
Martin for Williams and a first.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Apr 21 @ 3:54 PM ET
Yep. I remember her. Canadian. Those boards were so active during games it was fun.
- jfkst1

Do you guys not have friends to drink beer and watch hockey with?
87_71_11_29
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: In a van down by the river, PA
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 21 @ 3:58 PM ET
If I was gm (I'm sending in my resume as we speak) Bergeron,Marchand, Tuukka, Hamilton, and maybe krecji are the only non starters anyone else id pick up the phone
- eganator

That's prob a good list. Out of curiosity...

Why you keep Marchand and not Lucic?
87_71_11_29
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: In a van down by the river, PA
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 21 @ 3:59 PM ET
Malkin for Ovi. Make it happen.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Apr 21 @ 4:01 PM ET
Yep. I remember her. Canadian. Those boards were so active during games it was fun.
- jfkst1

not sure anyone here was active on them, i remember the CBS Sports boards. didnt have a lot of penguins fans besides myself and a few other regulars but that was a good board that normally had good hockey discussion.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Apr 21 @ 4:03 PM ET
Do you guys not have friends to drink beer and watch hockey with?
- Grinder47


I live in Virginia where a Zamboni is an "ice tractor."
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