Mathlete time

So Eichel has 3 years left of NCAA eligibility. He gets drafted by Buffalo, and decides to return to college. Buffalo has 3 years to sign him to his ELC before he becomes a FA again.

So he plays 3 more years at BC, effectively wasting those 3 years that Buffalo had to sign him, BUT Buffalo could still sign him to play the remainder of the NHL season (it ends after the NCAA season) if he was willing to do that. So I guess the ball is in his court still. I think I've answered my own question.

I was simply curious if the year he already played in the NCAA came into effect at all.
- SolidGoldBricks

Every player drafted can choose not to sign his ELC and eventually re-enter the draft. The ball is always in the players court. Strome can just as easily say the doesn't want to play in that mess that is the Leafs organization and re-enter the draft two years from now.

Every player drafted can choose not to sign his ELC and eventually re-enter the draft. The ball is always in the players court. Strome can just as easily say the doesn't want to play in that mess that is the Leafs organization and re-enter the draft two years from now.
- sskkoo1

I honestly think that Eichel didn't want to be that guy that says "YES I AM GOING TO THE NHL AND I'M GOING TO TEAR THAT POOP UP!" It doesn't seem like his (buzzword) character. He's a team/family guy first.

I honestly think that Eichel didn't want to be that guy that says "YES I AM GOING TO THE NHL AND I'M GOING TO TEAR THAT POOP UP!" It doesn't seem like his (buzzword) character. He's a team/family guy first.
- thatsapickle

but its Buffalo, and everything that happens in buffalo is always the worst.... or something like that.

I am not of 100% brain capacity today, but I don't think that Eichel will choose to be back at BU if Murray explains why he can have him play right now. I think it's time to get the team on the ice that will be here in the future. Barring any injuries, I fully anticipate that Eichel will be in Buffalo on opening night 2015.
- thatsapickle

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Eichel will return to college, and if he does I think it will be for one more year. There's the possibility he LOVES his school and wants to return and try to win. But I don't see any reason for him to play more than one more season. Even then, I expect he isn't going back to college.

Going back is a choice that potentially sacrifices MILLIONS of dollars. His ELC will always be 3 years. Say he's going to play until he's 40: he's giving up a year of his earning potential somewhere between the end of the ELC and the end of his career. If he's as good as we expect, that's a lot of money to sacrifice for another shot at the NCAA 'ship.

Every player drafted can choose not to sign his ELC and eventually re-enter the draft. The ball is always in the players court. Strome can just as easily say the doesn't want to play in that mess that is the Leafs organization and re-enter the draft two years from now.
- sskkoo1

I don't see any reason to be rude...

And I know that. My question was about the years. There isn't much point in just not playing hockey until your ELC is up and you can re-enter the draft. College is where this makes the most sense.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Eichel will return to college, and if he does I think it will be for one more year. There's the possibility he LOVES his school and wants to return and try to win. But I don't see any reason for him to play more than one more season. Even then, I expect he isn't going back to college.

Going back is a choice that potentially sacrifices MILLIONS of dollars. His ELC will always be 3 years. Say he's going to play until he's 40: he's giving up a year of his earning potential somewhere between the end of the ELC and the end of his career. If he's as good as we expect, that's a lot of money to sacrifice for another shot at the NCAA 'ship.
- SolidGoldBricks

I see your point, and can agree. If he really thinks that he needs the NCAA championship then go for it. It's not going to hurt him or the Sabres. I don't think the sky will start to fall if he goes back. I don't think he's the same player or the same make up as Justin Schultz (who I boo every time he is playing the Ducks) or anyone of that ilk who doesn't go to the team that drafts him.

Personally, I have wanted Eichel over McDavid and if he wants to go to college for another year, that's fine.

Michael Pachla: If Jack Eichel decides on another year at Boston University, so what?
- Michael Pachla

I highly doubt that would happen
But if it did, we would still be ok
Reinhart would center the top line
Grigorenko or Larsson would center the 3rd

I see your point, and can agree. If he really thinks that he needs the NCAA championship then go for it. It's not going to hurt him or the Sabres. I don't think the sky will start to fall if he goes back. I don't think he's the same player or the same make up as Justin Schultz (who I boo every time he is playing the Ducks) or anyone of that ilk who doesn't go to the team that drafts him.

Personally, I have wanted Eichel over McDavid and if he wants to go to college for another year, that's fine.
- thatsapickle

I'm with you. I think Eichel will play in Buffalo. I don't see why he wouldn't be excited to play in Buffalo. I think of the bottom 5 or 6 lotto teams, that would be the top place I would want to be (if I weren't a sad Leafs fan).

I see your point, and can agree. If he really thinks that he needs the NCAA championship then go for it. It's not going to hurt him or the Sabres. I don't think the sky will start to fall if he goes back. I don't think he's the same player or the same make up as Justin Schultz (who I boo every time he is playing the Ducks) or anyone of that ilk who doesn't go to the team that drafts him.

Personally, I have wanted Eichel over McDavid and if he wants to go to college for another year, that's fine.
- thatsapickle

It hurts the Sabres for him to go back to school. Everyone else on the team gets closer to free agency and another bottom-5 finish isn't going to do much to make people want to come here/stick around.

Mathlete time

So Eichel has 3 years left of NCAA eligibility. He gets drafted by Buffalo, and decides to return to college. Buffalo has 3 years to sign him to his ELC before he becomes a FA again.

So he plays 3 more years at BC, effectively wasting those 3 years that Buffalo had to sign him, BUT Buffalo could still sign him to play the remainder of the NHL season (it ends after the NCAA season) if he was willing to do that. So I guess the ball is in his court still. I think I've answered my own question.

I was simply curious if the year he already played in the NCAA came into effect at all.
- SolidGoldBricks

The answer is 2/3 times pi.

Of course Luke Richardson.
Born in Ottawa , coaches the Binghamton Senators.
Murray only knows the box he lives in.
- BuffaloHardHat

I see your point, and can agree. If he really thinks that he needs the NCAA championship then go for it. It's not going to hurt him or the Sabres. I don't think the sky will start to fall if he goes back. I don't think he's the same player or the same make up as Justin Schultz (who I boo every time he is playing the Ducks) or anyone of that ilk who doesn't go to the team that drafts him.

Personally, I have wanted Eichel over McDavid and if he wants to go to college for another year, that's fine.
- thatsapickle

Why Would u rather have Eichel?

I'm with you. I think Eichel will play in Buffalo. I don't see why he wouldn't be excited to play in Buffalo. I think of the bottom 5 or 6 lotto teams, that would be the top place I would want to be (if I weren't a sad Leafs fan).
- SolidGoldBricks

Seems to me that Toronto got most screwed by the Oilers winning the draft
Arizona is already very solid on defense,
So I think they're gonna take Strome
So u guys are gonna miss out on picking your top line center
Not that Hanifin won't be a nice piece to build your defense around, but I think the Leafs wanted McDavid or Strome

Seems to me that Toronto got most screwed by the Oilers winning the draft
Arizona is already very solid on defense,
So I think they're gonna take Strome
So u guys are gonna miss out on picking your top line center
Not that Hanifin won't be a nice piece to build your defense around, but I think the Leafs wanted McDavid or Strome
- jdfitz77

Maybe they will take Marner. I could also see Arizona trading out of #3.

Every player drafted can choose not to sign his ELC and eventually re-enter the draft. The ball is always in the players court. Strome can just as easily say the doesn't want to play in that mess that is the Leafs organization and re-enter the draft two years from now.
- sskkoo1

yeah that's likely not going to happen his favorite team is the leafs those damn Canadians always pick those losers

Why Would u rather have Eichel?
- jdfitz77

Not that I can answer this question for him. But, I can say why I think Eichel is a better fit for the team overall. That's not to say I didn't want McDavid. But I'm still ecstatic we're getting Eichel.

I think Eichel overall is a more powerful player. Initially, that will help him in the NHL. His first year or so may actually be a bit better than McDavid. He's used to playing against guys older than him by quite a bit. He's a more powerful skater, where McDavid is a faster skater. I think Eichel's makeup is more suited to the type of team Murray is building than McDavid. Skill wise, they're so close it's not really a very large drop.

I watched Eichel battle with 3 guys on numerous occastions during the North Dakota game and still come out of the scrum with the puck and I couldn't believe it. Just seems his current skill set will take less adjustment to the NHL level and McDavid's being the level of competition he played against this year.

Maybe they will take Marner. I could also see Arizona trading out of #3.
- Pierceme69

3rd pick to Colorado for Duchene

Colorado takes Hanifin

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That location.
That location.

Seems to me that Toronto got most screwed by the Oilers winning the draft
Arizona is already very solid on defense,
So I think they're gonna take Strome
So u guys are gonna miss out on picking your top line center
Not that Hanifin won't be a nice piece to build your defense around, but I think the Leafs wanted McDavid or Strome
- jdfitz77

I completely agree. I don't think Hanifin or Marner is a loss by any means, they're probably both better than anything the Leafs have, but Strome is clearly the guy they want.

Marner may be better than Strome, but the size is a concern, especially with Nylander looking like a future piece of the puzzle. Hanifin and Rielly would be awesome to have for the future, but still leaves a big ? at #1 centre, which the Leafs have had trouble filling since Sundin left. Maybe they can get a #1C in next year's draft, or the one after, but I don't think they want to chance it.

Maybe they will take Marner. I could also see Arizona trading out of #3.
- Pierceme69

please don't say that you shut your mouth or I will cry that would be the worst thing to do oh my god I'm going to cry

Not that I can answer this question for him. But, I can say why I think Eichel is a better fit for the team overall. That's not to say I didn't want McDavid. But I'm still ecstatic we're getting Eichel.

I think Eichel overall is a more powerful player. Initially, that will help him in the NHL. His first year or so may actually be a bit better than McDavid. He's used to playing against guys older than him by quite a bit. He's a more powerful skater, where McDavid is a faster skater. I think Eichel's makeup is more suited to the type of team Murray is building than McDavid. Skill wise, they're so close it's not really a very large drop.

I watched Eichel battle with 3 guys on numerous occastions during the North Dakota game and still come out of the scrum with the puck and I couldn't believe it. Just seems his current skill set will take less adjustment to the NHL level and McDavid's being the level of competition he played against this year.
- HonkFortheGoose

nailed it.

3rd pick to Colorado for Duchene

Colorado takes Hanifin
- sbroads24

I tried everything with that fan base they won't move him they all said he'll retire there

Not that I can answer this question for him. But, I can say why I think Eichel is a better fit for the team overall. That's not to say I didn't want McDavid. But I'm still ecstatic we're getting Eichel.

I think Eichel overall is a more powerful player. Initially, that will help him in the NHL. His first year or so may actually be a bit better than McDavid. He's used to playing against guys older than him by quite a bit. He's a more powerful skater, where McDavid is a faster skater. I think Eichel's makeup is more suited to the type of team Murray is building than McDavid. Skill wise, they're so close it's not really a very large drop.

I watched Eichel battle with 3 guys on numerous occastions during the North Dakota game and still come out of the scrum with the puck and I couldn't believe it. Just seems his current skill set will take less adjustment to the NHL level and McDavid's being the level of competition he played against this year.
- HonkFortheGoose

When it boils down to it, does it matter too much who starts off their career better? Neither Edmonton or Buffalo are a year away from the finals.

McDavid is the better prospect, although you are right, the power in Eichel ' s skating is 2nd to none really.

People compare him to Getzlaf, he's 5x the skater Getzlaf is

#2 and Deslauriers to the Blackhawks for Crawford and Sharp!


But actually, if I'm the Sabres I walk up to the podium with a massive grin on my face. Any other draft and Eichel is the unanimous first overall pick. It's a shame he's overshadowed.

But I'm disappointed in them giving up on Nolan.

When it boils down to it, does it matter too much who starts off their career better? Neither Edmonton or Buffalo are a year away from the finals.

McDavid is the better prospect, although you are right, the power in Eichel ' s skating is 2nd to none really.

People compare him to Getzlaf, he's 5x the skater Getzlaf is
- sbroads24

I watched a ton of Eichel high lights yesterday. The kid can skate better than most of us know how to walk. I can't wait to see him in person.