Hextal was far from Ullmark when that trade went down. You're way way off on that one.
- dadeadhead

It's not an exact comparison, and there's no way it could be.

But my point is, if there are people here that want to give up too much for one guy, it's not worth it.

http://espn.go.com/blog/n...ichel-a-consolation-prize

Sabres GM Murray not calling Eichel a consolation prize

It's not an exact comparison, and there's no way it could be.

But my point is, if there are people here that want to give up too much for one guy, it's not worth it.
- grand-magus

Hextall had 3 30 win seasons, a Conn Smyth, a Vezina(both won as a rookie), and 48 playoff games played prior to that deal.

It's not even in the ball park.

I said Crosby was a low end generational player, not on the level of Gretzky, Orr, Lemieux.

By the way I was listening to Leafs Lunch the day after our little discussion and Ray Ferraro and the boys there said the same thing I did They wondered if he was slowing down, why he wasn't producing. Compared him to today's Peyton Manning.

You are getting free commentary by me that the pros give, you're welcome
- GilPerreault11

Why he wasn't producing

3rd in the league in points this year
1st last year by 17 points

Scores 2 goals last night

Congrats, you and Ray Ferraro are both wrong

Is this the new Roy crotch grab?

Is this the new Roy crotch grab?
- theblueandgold

10x better/worse

http://news.nationalpost....east-desirable-to-play-in

“I can tell you, it’s pretty much automatic that Edmonton and Winnipeg are the first two names anyone comes up with,” said another agent.

"Edmonton had five first-place votes and was named on every ballot, as was second-place Winnipeg."

"Buffalo was third. Ottawa and Toronto tied for fourth/fifth."
- Dangles13

You can wallow in the reported crap or you can have your management team overcome the thoughts of players by doing things to improve it. Feels good being a historical franchise yet being at the bottom of NHLers minds, doesn't it?

Know what other team is on that list, and likely has been for a while..Buffalo. Yet they've talked multiple people into waiving their no-trades to come there despite this horrid reputation. Whether you have to overpay or whatever it takes, that's management's job to work on that reputation. Management that has included the beloved "MacT" for 3+ years of now, as well as him as a prior coach and player of that franchise.

Hextall had 3 30 win seasons, a Conn Smyth, a Vezina(both won as a rookie), and 48 playoff games played prior to that deal.

It's not even in the ball park.
- dadeadhead

Ok, then substitute our best player - your choice - for Hextall.

Better?

Why he wasn't producing

3rd in the league in points this year
1st last year by 17 points

Scores 2 goals last night

Congrats, you and Ray Ferraro are both wrong
- sbroads24

Generational talents, which he is, and only score 85 pts can be questioned. Low end generational talent. Ray Ferraro is a smart guy

http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/35772/sabres-gm-murray-not-calling-eichel-a-consolation-prize

Sabres GM Murray not calling Eichel a consolation prize
- GilPerreault11

Only people who want to believe a 1-line eye-grab really thought that, IMO. Gotta love "media"

Only people who want to believe a 1-line eye-grab really thought that, IMO. Gotta love "media"
- stashu

Draft day " Buffalo selects Jack Eichel...oh and (frank) you zeisberger"

Only people who want to believe a 1-line eye-grab really thought that, IMO. Gotta love "media"
- stashu

I've been saying that too. The media takes one snippet of something a guy says and twists it around to create a controversy. It's horribly obnoxious and, IMO, terrible reporting.

There is no such thing as integrity in the media anymore.

Generational talents, which he is, and only score 85 pts can be questioned. Low end generational talent. Ray Ferraro is a smart guy
- GilPerreault11

He's a guy who said he'd prefer to build a franchise around Tyler Myers than John Tavares.

Generational talents, which he is, and only score 85 pts can be questioned. Low end generational talent. Ray Ferraro is a smart guy
- GilPerreault11

This was the lowest scoring champion (minus the 2 lockout years) in almost 50 years.

Can someone tell me where Eichel wore #15?

Generational talents, which he is, and only score 85 pts can be questioned. Low end generational talent. Ray Ferraro is a smart guy
- GilPerreault11

You remind me of the people claiming Ovechkin was slowing down 2 years ago.

Do you think the constant injuries to Pitt had anything to do with them slowing down the 2nd half of the season? Dupuis, Bennett, Hornqvist,Kunitz, and others?

http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/35772/sabres-gm-murray-not-calling-eichel-a-consolation-prize

Sabres GM Murray not calling Eichel a consolation prize
- GilPerreault11

He should just come out and say that the plan was to finish last to guarantee one of the two.

A big "F" you to people against the tank and to say more directly that he is happy with Eichel.

This was the lowest scoring champion (minus the 2 lockout years) in almost 50 years.
- dadeadhead

He's the best scoring forward I've seen since Joe Montana

Can someone tell me where Eichel wore #15?
- grand-magus

Worlds

You can wallow in the reported crap or you can have your management team overcome the thoughts of players by doing things to improve it. Feels good being a historical franchise yet being at the bottom of NHLers minds, doesn't it?

Know what other team is on that list, and likely has been for a while..Buffalo. Yet they've talked multiple people into waiving their no-trades to come there despite this horrid reputation. Whether you have to overpay or whatever it takes, that's management's job to work on that reputation. Management that has included the beloved "MacT" for 3+ years of now, as well as him as a prior coach and player of that franchise.
- stashu

Wallow in reported crap? I should dismiss professionally reported news because your opinion is more important?

If you had read the whole post you would have seen that Buffalo was on the list, however they do have the benefit of being an American city.

How am I to have "my" management team overcome the thoughts of players?

Only people who want to believe a 1-line eye-grab really thought that, IMO. Gotta love "media"
- stashu

Media has their narrative and agenda and last night it was TM's disappointment in having to settle for Eichel. Many outlets left out the line where he said he's not disappointed in the player but the process. Didn't fit the agenda for the evening.

Can someone tell me where Eichel wore #15?
- grand-magus

World juniors?


Under 18's?

Worlds
- awildmudkip

Thanks

World juniors?




Under 18's?
- Sabresfan-365

And thank you too

He's a guy who said he'd prefer to build a franchise around Tyler Myers than John Tavares.
- stashu

When was this