Welcome to the boat.

Most of the calls were garbage too, in my opinion. Weak.
- Michael_Stuart

The Blues/Wild game was just as brutal, crazy how inconsistent the reffing was between the games tonight and last nights

Maybe so but Detroit didn't do themselves any favors by being stuck in their own zone most of the game.
- Feds91Stammer

I just thought a couple of the interference calls were iffy, but that's neither here nor there. Like you said, Red Wings didn't make it any easier on themselves with their gameplay.

I just thought a couple of the interference calls were iffy, but that's neither here nor there. Like you said, Red Wings didn't make it any easier on themselves with their gameplay.
- Michael_Stuart

Yeah I don't like ticky tack penalties, especially in the playoffs. I always prefer, in pretty much every sport, for the refs to call less rather than more. The more they call the more they can screw it up. I think that is why I find basketball unwatchable now. So many calls constantly throughout the game. They must call 100s of fouls/violations per game. Oh well, the Wings did hurt themselves.

Goal one: he wasn't following the puck very well.
Goal two: it was just a really good play.
Goal three: that one's on him and it happened to be the game-winner.
He better tighten up or we're going to be paying $6 million a year for an average regular-season goaltender And a Dud in the playoffs.

Yeah I don't like ticky tack penalties, especially in the playoffs. I always prefer, in pretty much every sport, for the refs to call less rather than more. The more they call the more they can screw it up. I think that is why I find basketball unwatchable now. So many calls constantly throughout the game. They must call 100s of fouls/violations per game. Oh well, the Wings did hurt themselves.
- datswho

True but they were sending the Wings a message- your usual interference set ups to come out of the Dzone are going to be called. They set up that way to defend the puck carrier from checking. Good to see but it should have been called all year long.
The Wings kept most of the shots to the outside - time to get dirty boys go to the front of the net more. Filp is too soft and everyone one the Wings know it. He looks to be declining in value since the second half of the season. Bish needs work and falls asleep back there - no shots for first 10 then a slick redirect in the net. He lets in more first shot goals than anyone.

That's not fair and not relevant at all, can't put last year and this game on Callahan.
- tryhard

Don't feed the idiot. MSL will be Malkins b!tch soon by the looks of it.

Don't feed the idiot. MSL will be Malkins b!tch soon by the looks of it.
- tpd11

by the looks of what?

Most of the calls were garbage too, in my opinion. Weak.
- Michael_Stuart

Listened to the XM feed out of Tampa for periods 2 and 3 and you would have thought the Bolts were getting raped out there via Phil E. I thought Mickey Redmond (color guy for Wings TV was a homer, but I found his match). Must be those 50 goal scores perception

Well overall im obviously happy that we won,

but... with the shot comparison... that cant continue, the wings gotta ramp up the offense, turn on some heat and pepper bishop, cause hes not going to continue to let in weak shots (glenny short handed looked awesome.. but it was pretty weak)

i know babcock knows that and i feel the next game wont be so lop sided shot wise.

Another note, both sides got some weak calls eh? for the playoffs a few of those should not have been made. Especially the one with 12 seconds left on helm for a hook, super chincy. i would have been super mad had that resulted in a goal/OT/loss

True but they were sending the Wings a message- your usual interference set ups to come out of the Dzone are going to be called. They set up that way to defend the puck carrier from checking. Good to see but it should have been called all year long.
The Wings kept most of the shots to the outside - time to get dirty boys go to the front of the net more. Filp is too soft and everyone one the Wings know it. He looks to be declining in value since the second half of the season. Bish needs work and falls asleep back there - no shots for first 10 then a slick redirect in the net. He lets in more first shot goals than anyone.
- tpd11

Perhaps. I think more likely they just called a couple of bad calls. The wings should find a new way to cheat since all the hooking, grabbing and obstruction that only they use isn't working the last couple years.

Listened to the XM feed out of Tampa for periods 2 and 3 and you would have thought the Bolts were getting raped out there via Phil E. I thought Mickey Redmond (color guy for Wings TV was a homer, but I found his match). Must be those 50 goal scores perception
- MedicineMan

Mickey is the king of homers. Was the Bolts guy really similar?

Mickey is the king of homers. Was the Bolts guy really similar?
- SolidGoldBricks

Mickey is great! seriously, not a joke, hes awesome.

Sooo...

1) Datsyuk was himself
2) Bishop was WORSE than average
3) The Wings' playoff experience (read: resilience) showed
4) ... okay, it wasn't Abdelkader, but it was the bottom 6 that put the dagger in the heart.

Exactly what I said would happen in Stu's other thread, and that I got torn apart for by some folks.

That was not a NHL level performance by Bishop, even the second goal, while it may have been a screen, is readable IMO. If he doesn't step it up in game 2 I expect to see Vasi in the net. And Bishop can assume a backup status.

Relax guys. Mrazek was better than Bishop, PP failure (even though they had alot of zone time and were very dangerous on the PP Mrazek was their best PKer), and we got zero puck luck. Granted Wings were great at clearing loose pucks but if we continue to dominate zone time like we did the goals will come.

There will be alot of pressure on us to take game 2. Besides the idea of going down 0-2 to the road it's even more important from the confidence standpoint after what happened last season. Just get the W and lets get this ball rolling.

Bish has to be better

When you have a goaltender that only faces 14 shots... you have to keep in mind an effect I'll call "rusted joints"

It's what happens when a goaltender sees so little action that he's not as sharp as he would be if he was seeing regular action or a lot of action. A few goaltenders in the league are really good at those games and some of them suffer a little bit.

Tampa was outplaying Detroit badly... angels won't save Detroit every night... yas keep playing them like this, and this'll be over in 5 in your favour. Bishop will be really good in Detroit, don't worry.

Bishop had better turn in a better performance tomorrow. If not, give Vasy the ball and let him run with it- win or lose.

EDIT-

If this happens and Vasy plays well and we ride him through the playoffs the question is: does Bishop have a NTC? I don't believe he does. Send him off to Edmonton for picks.

Bishop had better turn in a better performance tomorrow. If not, give Vasy the ball and let him run with it- win or lose.

EDIT-

If this happens and Vasy plays well and we ride him through the playoffs the question is: does Bishop have a NTC? I don't believe he does. Send him off to Edmonton for picks.
- OzBolts

I can't believe all of the Bishop hate here. What the H-E Double hockey sticks! So he let in a soft goal, who cares. Tampa hasn't had a goalie able to pull out the wins and give his team the confidence Bishop does since Khabibulin. Have confidence in the guy and he will reward you, the worst thing for a goalie is to have his confidence shaken especially from a fan base which should be looking to support the guy and not crucify him.

Bishop is the guy, he has been for two years now and will still be the guy next year. When I used to live in Ottawa this was the reason I absolutely hated the fans there. Losses were always the goalie's fault and the media and fans would turn on them so fast causing them to be run out of town. There is a reason Ottawa has never had a stable number 1 goalie (starter who has been the starter for more than three years). It's a revolving door at one position when the team should shoulder the blame together and figure out how to win as a unit.

Bottom line is Tampa dominated. They had 46 shots on net, in normal circumstances they would have scored more than 2 goals. As luck would have it that didn't happen. If they play like this again they will score more and Bishop will not allow the soft goal. He has proven to be better than that for the last two years, the bad games come but so do the stellar, vezina candidate games.

If Stamkos goes multiple games without scoring while missing open nets or fanning on one-timers do we as fans demand that we put him down on the third line and put Filppula up in his spot... No, so afford the same kind of confidence to the guy that deserves it just as well.

I can't believe all of the Bishop hate here. What the H-E Double hockey sticks! So he let in a soft goal, who cares. Tampa hasn't had a goalie able to pull out the wins and give his team the confidence Bishop does since Khabibulin. Have confidence in the guy and he will reward you, the worst thing for a goalie is to have his confidence shaken especially from a fan base which should be looking to support the guy and not crucify him.

Bishop is the guy, he has been for two years now and will still be the guy next year. When I used to live in Ottawa this was the reason I absolutely hated the fans there. Losses were always the goalie's fault and the media and fans would turn on them so fast causing them to be run out of town. There is a reason Ottawa has never had a stable number 1 goalie (starter who has been the starter for more than three years). It's a revolving door at one position when the team should shoulder the blame together and figure out how to win as a unit.

Bottom line is Tampa dominated. They had 46 shots on net, in normal circumstances they would have scored more than 2 goals. As luck would have it that didn't happen. If they play like this again they will score more and Bishop will not allow the soft goal. He has proven to be better than that for the last two years, the bad games come but so do the stellar, vezina candidate games.

If Stamkos goes multiple games without scoring while missing open nets or fanning on one-timers do we as fans demand that we put him down on the third line and put Filppula up in his spot... No, so afford the same kind of confidence to the guy that deserves it just as well.
- Savlep

This. All of this.

Mickey is the king of homers. Was the Bolts guy really similar?
- SolidGoldBricks

Umm. Yeah.

Espo groaning during the play by play actually adding his own personal touch!

I can't believe all of the Bishop hate here. What the H-E Double hockey sticks! So he let in a soft goal, who cares. Tampa hasn't had a goalie able to pull out the wins and give his team the confidence Bishop does since Khabibulin. Have confidence in the guy and he will reward you, the worst thing for a goalie is to have his confidence shaken especially from a fan base which should be looking to support the guy and not crucify him.

Bishop is the guy, he has been for two years now and will still be the guy next year. When I used to live in Ottawa this was the reason I absolutely hated the fans there. Losses were always the goalie's fault and the media and fans would turn on them so fast causing them to be run out of town. There is a reason Ottawa has never had a stable number 1 goalie (starter who has been the starter for more than three years). It's a revolving door at one position when the team should shoulder the blame together and figure out how to win as a unit.

Bottom line is Tampa dominated. They had 46 shots on net, in normal circumstances they would have scored more than 2 goals. As luck would have it that didn't happen. If they play like this again they will score more and Bishop will not allow the soft goal. He has proven to be better than that for the last two years, the bad games come but so do the stellar, vezina candidate games.

If Stamkos goes multiple games without scoring while missing open nets or fanning on one-timers do we as fans demand that we put him down on the third line and put Filppula up in his spot... No, so afford the same kind of confidence to the guy that deserves it just as well.
- Savlep

Bishop doesn't necessarily deserve it. He had a great run in the previous season, but all season long the soft goals happened early in the game. And I noticed one guy mentioned "rusted joints", the problem is that Bishop has not adjusted to this style of game. And with no winning playoff experience I personally want to see the young gun play if Bishop can't rise to the occasion. I don't want to continue the era of saying we don't have a No.1 Goalie, but if Bishop can't make his stamp there has to be a change.

When you have a goaltender that only faces 14 shots... you have to keep in mind an effect I'll call "rusted joints"

It's what happens when a goaltender sees so little action that he's not as sharp as he would be if he was seeing regular action or a lot of action. A few goaltenders in the league are really good at those games and some of them suffer a little bit.

Tampa was outplaying Detroit badly... angels won't save Detroit every night... yas keep playing them like this, and this'll be over in 5 in your favour. Bishop will be really good in Detroit, don't worry.
- archromat

i really dont see the wings keeping this pace, not every game will they be outshot 40+ to 14, im not saying the wings steal the series, but it wont end in 5. The wings have great leadership and talent, enough to push this to 7

When you have a goaltender that only faces 14 shots... you have to keep in mind an effect I'll call "rusted joints"

It's what happens when a goaltender sees so little action that he's not as sharp as he would be if he was seeing regular action or a lot of action. A few goaltenders in the league are really good at those games and some of them suffer a little bit.

Tampa was outplaying Detroit badly... angels won't save Detroit every night... yas keep playing them like this, and this'll be over in 5 in your favour. Bishop will be really good in Detroit, don't worry.
- archromat

I doubt you'll see this big a shot disparity again in the next couple of games. I'm pretty sure you'll see that even out. Babcock can get this team to make some adjustments. Wings have to get their young guys (read: secondary scoring) in gear and get some goals. Also pretty sure Tampa won't get seven power plays on Saturday (part of the reason for the shot disparity). And if Mrazek plays that good for the rest of series... it won't be over in 5 games, that's for sure.

It's interesting to note Mrazek won the Calder Cup against Bishop two years ago. And Mrazek had a lot of the same players with him (Jurco, Nyquist, Sheahan, Tatar, Andersson). Those guys need to step up and start contributing. Wings will have to weather the storm early in the first period tomorrow and not let Tampa take an early lead. The pressure is all on Tampa and Bishop at this point. Let's see how they respond.

I doubt you'll see this big a shot disparity again in the next couple of games. I'm pretty sure you'll see that even out. Babcock can get this team to make some adjustments. Wings have to get their young guys (read: secondary scoring) in gear and get some goals. Also pretty sure Tampa won't get seven power plays on Saturday (part of the reason for the shot disparity). And if Mrazek plays that good for the rest of series... it won't be over in 5 games, that's for sure.

It's interesting to note Mrazek won the Calder Cup against Bishop two years ago. And Mrazek had a lot of the same players with him (Jurco, Nyquist, Sheahan, Tatar, Andersson). Those guys need to step up and start contributing. Wings will have to weather the storm early in the first period tomorrow and not let Tampa take an early lead. The pressure is all on Tampa and Bishop at this point. Let's see how they respond.
- Vladdie_Kon1

No he didn't.