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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 1:23 PM ET
Anyone take kids to Disney in the lat few years?
- nails


I took my wife and I...any help I can offer?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 15 @ 1:24 PM ET
From a Flyers source concerning Berube:
Philadelphia Flyers' General Manager Rox Hextall will be holding a press conference at 2 PM EST to address the media, where it will be announced that Craig Berube will be returning as human being of planet Earth.

- jmatchett383

It was Jsaq wasn't it?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 15 @ 1:25 PM ET
Crosby and Malkin gonna expose Yandle. Gonna go to work on him big time.
Pens in 4

- PLindbergh31




Pens win one at most.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 15 @ 1:25 PM ET
That could easily be the case.

Furthermore, they won't have to pay him for doing nothing next year. His job will be "designated fall guy" until the coach that Hextall wants becomes available.

- johndewar


And even more so, you are saying that if you fired the coach, you gave him a roster that should have done better

But it's debatable another coach gets a lot more out of this team, in this regard: You had already had a top 5 goalie and PP, two Top 10 scorers...and missed

What if you give Berube the shiv, you hire another guy, and Voracek slips to 65 points, Mason's GAA and SVPCT go to 2.60 and .915, Simmonds gives you 22 goals and 40 points, and you get what you have always gotten out of Brayden Schenn?

Yep: Not only are you shifting that target your way, as the GM, people will be sour about all the poop the new coach did that (frank)ed up what was already working

This is just a tricky season because you don't KNOW that Schenn and Couturier are more than they are, and if you are sitting there at 80 points next season, then what?
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Apr 15 @ 1:28 PM ET
Anyone take kids to Disney in the lat few years?
- nails

no, but i'm going in one month to Disney Land.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Apr 15 @ 1:28 PM ET
this just in....Hexy will be relieving himself in the restroom at 1:50 pm
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 1:28 PM ET
And even more so, you are saying that if you fired the coach, you gave him a roster that should have done better

But it's debatable another coach gets a lot more out of this team, in this regard: You had already had a top 5 goalie and PP, two Top 10 scorers...and missed

What if you give Berube the shiv, you hire another guy, and Voracek slips to 65 points, Mason's GAA and SVPCT go to 2.60 and .915, Simmonds gives you 22 goals and 40 points, and you get what you have always gotten out of Brayden Schenn?

Yep: Not only are you shifting that target your way, as the GM, people will be sour about all the poop the new coach did that (frank)ed up what was already working

This is just a tricky season because you don't KNOW that Schenn and Couturier are more than they are, and if you are sitting there at 80 points next season, then what?

- AllInForFlyers


That sounds like a lateral move at worst.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Apr 15 @ 1:29 PM ET
Anyone take kids to Disney in the lat few years?
- nails


thankfully no
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 15 @ 1:31 PM ET
That sounds like a lateral move at worst.
- jmatchett383


For so many reasons, I think they are in a tough spot with this coach and roster, because you probably should blame both, but it isn't guaranteed that if you turf the coach, the roster comes through

I mean, seriously: if you are Ron Hextall, are you sitting there saying somebody is getting more out of Luke Schenn, Wheels and MacDonald?

The best players on the team had great seasons, statistically
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 15 @ 1:31 PM ET
I took my wife and I...any help I can offer?
- jmatchett383

Did you happen to eat at either Kona or 'ohanna?
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Apr 15 @ 1:31 PM ET
the Orlando eye ferris wheel opens next week
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 1:31 PM ET
Did you happen to eat at either Kona or 'ohanna?
- nails


No, we did not. Sorry.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 15 @ 1:32 PM ET
For so many reasons, I think they are in a tough spot with this coach and roster, because you probably should blame both, but it isn't guaranteed that if you turf the coach, the roster comes through
- AllInForFlyers


IMO, you make the change, even if it doesn't translate to more wins, because you want the kids developing under a competent eye.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Apr 15 @ 1:33 PM ET
If Berube is retained then you can consider this the Matthews tank 2015-16. Expect a few trades at the draft. No significant UFA deals. A lot of the same on D and no jobs to be won by the young guys in camp.

Enjoy watching the coach continue to retard the young guys development. Good for Ryan White when he gets first team PP minutes all season.


- mayorofangrytown


I refuse to believe but this is in the back of my head as well. I just don't see how they could ice a similar product next year. At least a coaching change gives us hope. However, I believe that the right coach can get this squad into the playoffs.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 15 @ 1:34 PM ET
thankfully no
- -davies-

10 days.
kids have been counting down for the last 30.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Apr 15 @ 1:34 PM ET
10 days.
kids have been counting down for the last 30.

- nails



sorry
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 15 @ 1:35 PM ET
And even more so, you are saying that if you fired the coach, you gave him a roster that should have done better

But it's debatable another coach gets a lot more out of this team, in this regard: You had already had a top 5 goalie and PP, two Top 10 scorers...and missed

What if you give Berube the shiv, you hire another guy, and Voracek slips to 65 points, Mason's GAA and SVPCT go to 2.60 and .915, Simmonds gives you 22 goals and 40 points, and you get what you have always gotten out of Brayden Schenn?

Yep: Not only are you shifting that target your way, as the GM, people will be sour about all the poop the new coach did that (frank)ed up what was already working

This is just a tricky season because you don't KNOW that Schenn and Couturier are more than they are, and if you are sitting there at 80 points next season, then what?

- AllInForFlyers



The biggest danger is bringing Berube back, and having the team get off to a slow start, and making the change in season. I'd rather a change be made in the off season when the talnet pool for a replacement is largest.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 15 @ 1:36 PM ET
sorry
- -davies-


If the kids were old enough to walk around alone, we would be all over the epcot pub crawl.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 15 @ 1:36 PM ET
IMO, you make the change, even if it doesn't translate to more wins, because you want the kids developing under a competent eye.
- Tomahawk



Beube has been an AHL head coach, an assistant NHL coach, and an NHL head coach. He's obviously a competent eye.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 15 @ 1:36 PM ET
IMO, you make the change, even if it doesn't translate to more wins, because you want the kids developing under a competent eye.
- Tomahawk


I agree...hope Hextall feels the same.

I don't love Brayden Schenn, but if you aren't gonna move him, somebody has to get more out of him consistently and be smart enough to give Couturier two healthy wingers at the same time
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 15 @ 1:37 PM ET
The biggest danger is bringing Berube back, and having the team get off to a slow start, and making the change in season. I'd rather a change be made in the off season when the talnet pool for a replacement is largest.
- MJL


And who wants to institute a new system after the season has started?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 15 @ 1:37 PM ET
Beats are all saying they'll be surprised if any decision on Berube is announced at the press conference.

They've been wrong before though. Several times in fact
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Apr 15 @ 1:39 PM ET
If the kids were old enough to walk around alone, we would be all over the epcot pub crawl.
- nails

I am visiting in Orlando and it has been hot and humid
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 15 @ 1:39 PM ET
Beats are all saying they'll be surprised if any decision on Berube is announced at the press conference.

They've been wrong before though. Several times in fact

- PhillySportsGuy


You do have to hand it to Hextall. Nothing seems to leak out of that organization since he's been in charge.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Apr 15 @ 1:41 PM ET
I just got back from my lunch break did the press conference happen yet??
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