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Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 13 @ 8:23 PM ET
Berube on Couturier: "He needs to understand if he's going to start there (defensive zone), he needs to get it into the offensive zone.''
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 13 @ 8:24 PM ET
Bellemare was the 3C this season and 7th in TOI amongst forwards. That's a not a role player, that's an important player.

Schultz faced the hardest competition and played the 2nd most minutes of any dman. That's not a role player.

- Feanor

They're both role players.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 13 @ 8:25 PM ET
Berube on Couturier: "He needs to understand if he's going to start there (defensive zone), he needs to get it into the offensive zone.''
- Crimsoninja

can't believe sean didn't think of this
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Apr 13 @ 8:26 PM ET
Berube on Couturier: "He needs to understand if he's going to start there (defensive zone), he needs to get it into the offensive zone.''
- Crimsoninja

jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 13 @ 8:27 PM ET
Berube on Couturier: "He needs to understand if he's going to start there (defensive zone), he needs to get it into the offensive zone.''
- Crimsoninja


Berube is really an ass clown.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 8:27 PM ET
Which is my point. Why so quick to sign role players?
- SuperSchennBros


Why would you wait? What reason would there be to not re-sign them?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 13 @ 8:27 PM ET
Noticed another piece of dishonesty/incorrect data in that article from the Flyers worst beat writer.



The number at ES is 40%. Overall, it's even lower.

http://www.naturalstattri...teams.php?team=PHI&sit=ev

- Feanor


Every stat Panaccio references is incorrect.Lol
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 13 @ 8:28 PM ET
Berube on Couturier: "He needs to understand if he's going to start there (defensive zone), he needs to get it into the offensive zone.''
- Crimsoninja


And to help him do that, I'm going to give him the FNG we know needs surgery and was so bad last year his old team was considering buying him out, and this other dude, playing through a serious leg injury.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 13 @ 8:28 PM ET
They're both role players.
- SuperSchennBros


Great comeback. By that logic every defender we have but Streit was a role player cause he was the only dman to play more than Schultz.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Apr 13 @ 8:29 PM ET
any word on whether they're going to sign Parks?

let's sign Oksanen as well.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 13 @ 8:31 PM ET
Why would you wait? What reason would there be to not re-sign them?
- MJL

An abundance of defensemen within our system. We don't have a number one stud but we also have young players with high upside. With having already 8 defenseman, I'm assuming things become more tricky. Also when I look at Giroux, Couturier, Laughton and Bellemare, I see a lot to be desired. How much better is Bellemare then Laughton should both see a full season?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 13 @ 8:31 PM ET
And to help him do that, I'm going to give him the FNG we know needs surgery and was so bad last year his old team was considering buying him out, and this other dude, playing through a serious leg injury.
- Jsaquella


You're so mad today. When Berube is fired tomorrow, you will be much happier.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Apr 13 @ 8:33 PM ET
Every stat Panaccio references is incorrect.Lol
- PhillySportsGuy


Pinocchio
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 13 @ 8:34 PM ET
You're so mad today. When Berube is fired tomorrow, you will be much happier.
- PhillySportsGuy

1 more year
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 13 @ 8:35 PM ET
1 more year
- Crimsoninja


0% chance
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 13 @ 8:35 PM ET
You're so mad today. When Berube is fired tomorrow, you will be much happier.
- PhillySportsGuy


I just find it funny, Berube's hamstringing guys and then blaming them for not playing through it. This is exactly my issue with him as a head coach. Seems like a good assistant, but the people skills...oi
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 13 @ 8:36 PM ET
0% chance
- PhillySportsGuy

if it was gonna happen it wouldve happened today


Accept it
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 13 @ 8:36 PM ET
Great comeback. By that logic every defender we have but Streit was a role player cause he was the only dman to play more than Schultz.
- Feanor


Bellemare wasn't our 3rd line center until a number of regulars were hurt. Bellemare within the last month moved up, Cousins took over the fourth line duties with Rinaldo and White. Bellemare was the fourth line center for probably 90% of the season. Nick Schultz may have seen the second most, if not the most ice time on this defense, how is that not a problem? Why would you take what's happened this season and use it as a positive example for a disappointing season?

They're role players. Important players get us into the playoffs.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 8:37 PM ET
if it was gonna happen it wouldve happened today


Accept it

- Crimsoninja


Prospects must he kept from him.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 13 @ 8:38 PM ET
if it was gonna happen it wouldve happened today


Accept it

- Crimsoninja


If it doesn't happen by tomorrow evening, I will break a mild sweat
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 13 @ 8:38 PM ET
And to help him do that, I'm going to give him the FNG we know needs surgery and was so bad last year his old team was considering buying him out, and this other dude, playing through a serious leg injury.
- Jsaquella


That is the crazy part, to me

Lord knows I don't love Brayden Schenn, but FFS, it's been shown relatively consistently that if you give the guy two wingers who aren't ridiculous, there is production

I'm not saying he'd get 80 points, but how in the hell you drop bombs on the guy after giving him injured/ineffective linemates is beyond me
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Apr 13 @ 8:38 PM ET
1 more year
- Crimsoninja


He get 3 games after a horrendous camp like Lavy
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 13 @ 8:39 PM ET
Prospects must he kept from him.
- ob18

opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Apr 13 @ 8:39 PM ET
Im all for doing whatever has to be done to put Couturier in the best position to produce.

If it's only playing him with Jake and G.
If it's stacking lines to play with him.
If it's putting him on the rink every time their is a power play or an empty net.
If it's not putting him in a single defensive situation ever.
If it's never playing him with an injured player.

Whatever list people have of things that have to happen for Couturier to have a chance to excel I am all for giving it to him. Their is a perfectly good chance that he runs with that chance and their is a perfectly good chance he still struggles offensively.

Their is exactly 0% wrong with saying Sean Couturier is a really solid 3 line shut down center who isn't ready or may never be a second line point producing center. People can list all the stats they want justifying why he had a down year but the facts are that Couturier, Read and Schenn not producing were as much a reason for this teams failure as anything else.

Oh look , they both scored when the games didn't matter. Good on them, they can high five each other when they go fishing in a few days,.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 13 @ 8:39 PM ET
If it doesn't happen by tomorrow evening, I will break a mild sweat
- PhillySportsGuy


I would agree with that -- yeah, it could happen later, but let's be honest: If you don't know by then, what don't you know?
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