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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 13 @ 4:10 PM ET
Lol, i guess i should have clarified, but the qualifying offer is not going to be high which means it will cost a team very little if any compensation to sign him to one. Basically with the year he has had I would vernture a guess that a team would offer him one, but again i could be wrong and noone does.
- did109

if they sign him for "very little" we'll match it, saving Hextall all that work!
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 13 @ 4:10 PM ET
One of the big things they wanted him to learn was how to play when he doesn't have the puck on his stick. Unfortunately watching can only teach you so much. I think he starts the year in the minors.

With Morin, keep in mind that in the Q he can simply bully guys. That's not going to be true in the pros, even the AHL. I think he needs some time to further develop myself. The last thing we need is another Luke Schenn - brought up too soon and confidence impacted.

- TheGreat28

Maybe Luke Schenn was just never that good.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Apr 13 @ 4:11 PM ET
I'm going to assume Hexy is going to wait until after the draft lottery to fire Berube.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 13 @ 4:11 PM ET
Maybe Luke Schenn was just never that good.
- mayorofangrytown


But he was a top-5 pick. And we all know that a top-5 pick is a guaranteed superstar.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 13 @ 4:12 PM ET
I'm going to assume Hexy is going to wait until after the draft lottery to fire Berube.
- KGBflyers10



I'll take that bet.

I think if he is fired it is this week.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Apr 13 @ 4:12 PM ET
I'm going to assume Hexy is going to wait until after the draft lottery to fire Berube.
- KGBflyers10


I'd think the new coach would want at least minimal input on the selections.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 13 @ 4:13 PM ET
I'm going to assume Hexy is going to wait until after the draft lottery to fire Berube.
- KGBflyers10


"With the seventh overall selection in the 2015 NHL Entry Draft, the Philadelphia Flyers are very, very proud to FIRE CRAIG BERUBE! GET OUT CHIEF, YOU'RE GONE! MIKKO RANTANEN, GET ON UP HERE, YOU'RE A FLYER!"
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 4:13 PM ET
Lol, i guess i should have clarified, but the qualifying offer is not going to be high which means it will cost a team very little if any compensation to sign him to one. Basically with the year he has had I would vernture a guess that a team would offer him one, but again i could be wrong and noone does.
- did109



Why would a team waste their time making an offer sheet to a player that would offer a low salary, that the Flyers would match in a milsecond? More importantly, why would Del Zotto sign it?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 13 @ 4:14 PM ET
christ, 17 pages?

what happened

- Crimsoninja

vlc said his only chance here is if the coach is gone and mdz said he likes it here but excepts to be fairly compensated
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Apr 13 @ 4:15 PM ET
"With the seventh overall selection in the 2015 NHL Entry Draft, the Philadelphia Flyers are very, very proud to FIRE CRAIG BERUBE! GET OUT CHIEF, YOU'RE GONE! MIKKO RANTANEN, GET ON UP HERE, YOU'RE A FLYER!"
- jmatchett383


BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 13 @ 4:17 PM ET
Why would a team waste their time making an offer sheet to a player that would offer a low salary, that the Flyers would match in a milsecond? More importantly, why would Del Zotto sign it?
- MJL

At what salary do we even enter the "this is an issue" realm? $3.5m AAV? That's first round pick territory, as far as offer sheets go. The Flyers are in a fine spot with MDZ.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Apr 13 @ 4:18 PM ET
http://www.csnphilly.com/...-beer-phillies-outfielder

if this had happened in philly how many new channels would espn be launching to pillory the fans here?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 13 @ 4:18 PM ET

- 77rams


Oh sorry, let's get the "prototypical Flyer" Lawson Crouse. He's big and...um...he's big. I mean, he isn't an exceptional skater, and he doesn't really create offense on his own, but yes, he is big.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 13 @ 4:19 PM ET
http://www.csnphilly.com/blog/700-level/watch-mets-fan-throws-beer-phillies-outfielder

if this had happened in philly how many new channels would espn be launching to pillory the fans here?

- hogweed


Wait, the Phillies are playing now?

Edit: Nope, already got shutout.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Apr 13 @ 4:21 PM ET
Why would a team waste their time making an offer sheet to a player that would offer a low salary, that the Flyers would match in a milsecond? More importantly, why would Del Zotto sign it?
- MJL


He's not very bright?

I hoping some inebriated GM offer him 3.4 per. I'd like to consider a first and a third next year.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 4:22 PM ET
At what salary do we even enter the "this is an issue" realm? $3.5m AAV? That's first round pick territory, as far as offer sheets go. The Flyers are in a fine spot with MDZ.
- BulliesPhan87



I don't see an Offer Sheet to Del Zotto as much of a threat.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 13 @ 4:22 PM ET
Oh sorry, let's get the "prototypical Flyer" Lawson Crouse. He's big and...um...he's big. I mean, he isn't an exceptional skater, and he doesn't really create offense on his own, but yes, he is big.
- jmatchett383



I am glad we know what a guy will be before he even plays an NHL game.
2731color
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Apr 13 @ 4:23 PM ET
A young player can be hurt by being rushed to the NHL.
- MJL

Sure but not necessarily. I hope he has a great camp and pre-season and it's an easy decision. As a fan, I'm desperate for excitement. I think he'll bring that.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Apr 13 @ 4:23 PM ET
Wait, the Phillies are playing now?

Edit: Nope, already got shutout.

- jmatchett383

yeah, tough to keep interested in them at this point.....i ran across the story on my minute-ly refresh of csn philly looking for news about a certain coach
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Apr 13 @ 4:25 PM ET
Oh sorry, let's get the "prototypical Flyer" Lawson Crouse. He's big and...um...he's big. I mean, he isn't an exceptional skater, and he doesn't really create offense on his own, but yes, he is big.
- jmatchett383


I've expressed similar feelings about Crouse as well many times.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 13 @ 4:27 PM ET
I am glad we know what a guy will be before he even plays an NHL game.
- J35Bacher


We don't. Just judging by the (admittedly, fairly limited) stuff I've seen and read about him. Seems like a bad JvR.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 13 @ 4:27 PM ET
Or sign an offer sheet from another team ...so yeah sitting out the year wont happen.
- did109


At worst, he'll play in another league, like Giordano did.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 13 @ 4:30 PM ET
Being a part of the Rangers thread has made you soft
- PhillySportsGuy

I've always been less of a hater generally. I can hate effectively during any game or series. But it isn't bone deep. I think moving 7 times in my formative sports years makes me flexible.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 13 @ 4:31 PM ET
With Morin, keep in mind that in the Q he can simply bully guys. That's not going to be true in the pros, even the AHL. I think he needs some time to further develop myself. The last thing we need is another Luke Schenn - brought up too soon and confidence impacted.
- TheGreat28


Fair point, but he already has two more development seasons than LSchenn ever got.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 13 @ 4:31 PM ET
At worst, he'll play in another league, like Giordano did.
- Tomahawk


He'll just go to arbitration and fight it. If he loses he'll just play hard next season and head to free agency as a top 4, 27-year-old puck moving defenseman with mobility.

He's going to have the same opportunity next year. Flyers are unlikely to do much upgrading on the blue line
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