But if that's what it takes, is my point. Heck, I'd throw a little more to get it.

If I was GMTM, I'd do anything I could to lock McDavid.
- awildmudkip

Which is my point that the gap doesn't warrant giving up those assets just to go from Eichel to McDavid.


There's really no point in sacrificing your future to get a better version of someone who is already going to be great.

It'd be like the Flyers trading Giroux Voracek and Simmonds for Crosby.

Because why give him top six minutes when you're giving McEichel top 6 minutes.
- awildmudkip

Mackinnon got 3rd line minutes at various times as a rookie.

People are sort of in dreamland if they think McEichel is a number 1 center day 1. That's not today's NHL

Yes they do play a checking role, hence Patrice Bergeron ' s Selke

You are getting hung up on the label.
- sbroads24

3rd line mintues like you want Reinhart to play? No they don't. Hes compared to them because of the two-way play. Not a checking line role.

Grigorenko has trade value now? Oh, cool. If we don't win the lottery, Sabres' 1st, Grigorenko and Reinhart for the #1 overall. I don't freaking care, McDavid is on a whole 'nother level than Eichel.
- awildmudkip

I can only pray that you're not being serious

Mackinnon got 3rd line minutes at various times as a rookie.

People are sort of in dreamland if they think McEichel is a number 1 center day 1. That's not today's NHL
- sbroads24

In two years McEichel and Reinhart should be 1, 2 Unless a verteran center is brought in to help. I can't believe that is being disupted. They both will propbbly be sheltered to a degree next year but after that it is all speed ahead.

Yes they do play a checking role, hence Patrice Bergeron ' s Selke

You are getting hung up on the label.
- sbroads24

The Selke doesn't mean "I PLAY A CHECKING ROLE". Look at Datsyuk.

3rd line mintues like you want Reinhart to play? No they don't. Hes compared to them because of the two-way play. Not a checking line role.
- Cheeseballin

I didn't say 3rd line minutes. I said checking role.

Take all the important faceoffs, match up against top lines. It's what he did in the WJC.

In 2 years

McDavid - 19 minutes all purpose
Reinhart -17 minutes, defensive draws, matchups
Grigorenko - 15 minutes, offensive zone heavy, PP
Schaller - 8 minutes

Larsson- on Reinhart's wing
Girgensons on McEichel wing playing the Dustin Brown role

Which is my point that the gap doesn't warrant giving up those assets just to go from Eichel to McDavid.


There's really no point in sacrificing your future to get a better version of someone who is already going to be great.

It'd be like the Flyers trading Giroux Voracek and Simmonds for Crosby.
- Sabresfan-365

Where are you planning on slotting Grigorenko and Reinhart into your top 9 when you get McEichel? No, really. I want to know. You already have McEichel as you're #1. Ennis is your likely #2. Girgensons is a proven #3.

The only scenario is if you get Reinhart to push Ennis to LW, which leaves Moulson out of a top 6 spot becuase Kane will be a top 6 LW no question.

The Selke doesn't mean "I PLAY A CHECKING ROLE". Look at Datsyuk.


- awildmudkip

You're hung up on the label. Bergeron absolutely plays a checking role. He takes a lot of defensive draws and matches up with the a Crosby and Ovi's

Mackinnon got 3rd line minutes at various times as a rookie.

People are sort of in dreamland if they think McEichel is a number 1 center day 1. That's not today's NHL
- sbroads24

And I love the fact Monahan is better...

Let me rephrase this in a way everyone will get a boner

Reinhart can be our "next Drury"

And I love the fact Monahan is better...
- whipper334

don't let fat deadmarsh hear you say that

Let me rephrase this in a way everyone will get a boner

Reinhart can be our "next Drury"
- sbroads24

Who? sorry i'm only familiar with winners

I didn't say 3rd line minutes. I said checking role.

Take all the important faceoffs, match up against top lines. It's what he did in the WJC.

In 2 years

McDavid - 19 minutes all purpose
Reinhart -17 minutes, defensive draws, matchups
Grigorenko - 15 minutes, offensive zone heavy, PP
Schaller - 8 minutes

Larsson- on Reinhart's wing
Girgensons on McEichel wing playing the Dustin Brown role
- sbroads24

what does this mean exactly then. Where exactly do Reinhart and Grigorenko fit in the grand scheme of things. We could roll out 3 scoring lines like St. Louis does but I dont think that will fit us well with all the top end talent we will have we need a defined Top and Bottom 6

don't let fat deadmarsh hear you say that
- Sabresfan-365

I know! I already got the what for from him.

what does this mean exactly then. Where exactly do Reinhart and Grigorenko fit in the grand scheme of things. We could roll out 3 scoring lines like St. Louis does but I dont think that will fit us well with all the top end talent we will have we need a defined Top and Bottom 6
- Cheeseballin

Reinhart can match up against other teams top lines and still drive possession. That would be a luxury. IF (big IF) Grigorenko pans out, you could give him heavy offensive zone starts and he could produce.

IMO it's worth seeing through

You're hung up on the label. Bergeron absolutely plays a checking role. He takes a lot of defensive draws and matches up with the a Crosby and Ovi's
- sbroads24

I don't know, but 306 career hits in 740 career games doesn't scream "checking role" to me.

what does this mean exactly then. Where exactly do Reinhart and Grigorenko fit in the grand scheme of things. We could roll out 3 scoring lines like St. Louis does but I dont think that will fit us well with all the top end talent we will have we need a defined Top and Bottom 6
- Cheeseballin

Exactly my point on Grigorenko and Reinhart being expendable trade pieces if we don't win the lottery.

Yes they do play a checking role, hence Patrice Bergeron ' s Selke

You are getting hung up on the label.
- sbroads24

If Reinhart gives us 55-70 points a year, with Bergeron's defensive awareness, I'll be a happy guy.

Reinhart can match up against other teams top lines and still drive possession. That would be a luxury. IF (big IF) Grigorenko pans out, you could give him heavy offensive zone starts and he could produce.

IMO it's worth seeing through
- sbroads24

That would mean putting Grigorenko on the "3rd line" if you want to call it that and peopel seem to hate that idea alot. And Girgensons is pushed elsewhere. You are still going to put Reinhart and McEichel with the best players available.

The Selke doesn't mean "I PLAY A CHECKING ROLE". Look at Datsyuk.


- awildmudkip

But, they do play a checking role. They play against the other team's top centers.

That would mean putting Grigorenko on the "3rd line" if you want to call it that and peopel seem to hate that idea alot You are still going to put Reinhart and McEichel with the best players available.
- Cheeseballin

3rd liner is just a label.

Remember when Vanek was a 3rd liner? It's a luxury when you have a deep team. I'd rather see these guys through and find out what we have

If Reinhart gives us 55-70 points a year, with Bergeron's defensive awareness, I'll be a happy guy.
- grand-magus

Hell yes. I think we could have one of the deepest teams in the league in 2-3 years if we are just patient

Check out the assist McDavid just had tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rwNzSAS6UM

Nolan fired... Boy who saw this one coming
- Cheeseballin

It's been such a joyful few days!!!