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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 8 @ 8:59 PM ET
Not as huge from LA. They don't have the cap space. Which is why you offer sheet both players at the same time and force them to choose one.
- Pierceme69

Term comes into play as well. Toffoli could sign a bridge deal and cash in for 7-8 mil per down the road if he turns into a top 10 winger. Why would he sign a long term offer sheet and leave money on the table?

Like I said, like the idea, doubt both players just automatically sign
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Apr 8 @ 9:00 PM ET
Not as huge from LA. They don't have the cap space. Which is why you offer sheet both players at the same time and force them to choose one.
- Pierceme69

And piss off the Kings GM....
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 8 @ 9:04 PM ET
And piss off the Kings GM....
- jochfr

I sincerely doubt Murray cares about that in the least. He seems like the kind of GM who would take advantage of the offer sheet to make the team competitive faster.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 8 @ 9:06 PM ET
Term comes into play as well. Toffoli could sign a bridge deal and cash in for 7-8 mil per down the road if he turns into a top 10 winger. Why would he sign a long term offer sheet and leave money on the table?

Like I said, like the idea, doubt both players just automatically sign

- sbroads24

He could sign a bridge deal and blow his knee out and never play again. Which is why athletes take up front money any time that they can.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 8 @ 9:09 PM ET
Jackets playing at home against a bottom feeder team tonight and up 5-0. Please please please sir, may we have another?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 8 @ 9:12 PM ET
He could sign a bridge deal and blow his knee out and never play again. Which is why athletes take up front money any time that they can.
- Pierceme69

PK Subban disagrees
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Apr 8 @ 9:19 PM ET
Term comes into play as well. Toffoli could sign a bridge deal and cash in for 7-8 mil per down the road if he turns into a top 10 winger. Why would he sign a long term offer sheet and leave money on the table?

Like I said, like the idea, doubt both players just automatically sign

- sbroads24


I like Toffoli but if I'm dishing out big cash and giving away multiple first round picks for a RFA, not sure I pick him as the guy I do it for coming off what looks to be consecutive last place finishes.

Not sure who I would do it for to be honest.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 8 @ 9:20 PM ET
PK Subban disagrees
- sbroads24

For every PK Subban there are 10 guys who took the big money when it was available. Sports careers aren't guaranteed to be lengthy.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 8 @ 9:20 PM ET
I like Toffoli but if I'm dishing out big cash and giving away multiple first round picks for a RFA, not sure I pick him as the guy I do it for coming off what looks to be consecutive last place finishes.

Not sure who I would do it for to be honest.

- BigStew

The compensation for a $5.5 million offer sheet isn't multiple 1sts. Its a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Apr 8 @ 9:22 PM ET
The compensation for a $5.5 million offer sheet isn't multiple 1sts. Its a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.
- Pierceme69


What level does does it turn into firsts? Ignore, I just looked it up.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 8 @ 9:24 PM ET
For every PK Subban there are 10 guys who took the big money when it was available. Sports careers aren't guaranteed to be lengthy.
- Pierceme69

Ryan Johansen turned down 6 years 32 mil, and singed a 3 year 12mil deal. He's thinking long term too..
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 8 @ 9:40 PM ET
Ryan Johansen turned down 6 years 32 mil, and singed a 3 year 12mil deal. He's thinking long term too..
- sbroads24



While i agree with the logic, i don't think Toffoli fits into that Johansen, Subban etc. category yet.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 8 @ 9:48 PM ET
While i agree with the logic, i don't think Toffoli fits into that Johansen, Subban etc. category yet.
- Sabresfan-365

He's not far off. Subban won the Norris after he signed and Johansen had 1 good season.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 8 @ 9:55 PM ET
He's not far off. Subban won the Norris after he signed and Johansen had 1 good season.
- sbroads24


He's not far off but he's still not in the class just yet, that's why i think his negotiations will be a little different.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 8 @ 9:56 PM ET
Jackets playing at home against a bottom feeder team tonight and up 5-0. Please please please sir, may we have another?
- Pierceme69


The hockey gods will say no .. We can never have anything nice
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Apr 8 @ 10:13 PM ET
Just watched the end of the Columbus vs. Toronto game

Shots 35 Leafs 33 Jackets

Score 5-0

STANDING OVATION!

5 Straight Home Game WIN STREAK!

Pts in 11 Straight Games!

Announcers said, all the players are looking forward to playing their FINAL HOME GAME on FRIDAY against the SABRES in their FAN APPRECIATION NIGHT!
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 8 @ 10:13 PM ET
Just watched the end of the Columbus vs. Toronto game

Shots 35 Leafs 33 Jackets

Score 5-0

STANDING OVATION!

5 Straight Home Game WIN STREAK!

Pts in 11 Straight Games!

Announcers said, all the players are looking forward to playing their FINAL HOME GAME on FRIDAY against the SABRES in their FAN APPRECIATION NIGHT!

- MEBSabresFAN



Sabres will win tomorrow
BackSlider
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man, CO
Joined: 07.05.2012

Apr 8 @ 10:14 PM ET
Just watched the end of the Columbus vs. Toronto game

Shots 35 Leafs 33 Jackets

Score 5-0

STANDING OVATION!

5 Straight Home Game WIN STREAK!

Pts in 11 Straight Games!

Announcers said, all the players are looking forward to playing their FINAL HOME GAME on FRIDAY against the SABRES in their FAN APPRECIATION NIGHT!

- MEBSabresFAN


Columbus 3-1
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Apr 8 @ 10:16 PM ET
Sabres will win tomorrow
- Sabresfan-365



Sabres don't play tomorrow
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 8 @ 10:17 PM ET
For 1.3 mil more than Hodgson though too.
- sbroads24



Price tag doesn't bother me at all
Declining production does though, so I can understand why some wouldn't want him.
Like I said, I'm pretty biased BC I've always liked him... But who better to lead these kids than a guy that's the Captain of 2 of the past 4 Cup winners?
I wouldn't give up more than a 2nd for him though
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 8 @ 10:18 PM ET
Sabres will win tomorrow
- Sabresfan-365

That would be a feat since they don't play tomorrow.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 8 @ 10:21 PM ET
He's not far off but he's still not in the class just yet, that's why i think his negotiations will be a little different.
- Sabresfan-365

I'm signing a bridge deal if I'm Toffoli.

Either way, I am all for the idea, but it's just far from a guarantee he jumps and signs a 5.5 mil deal
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 8 @ 10:22 PM ET
I think believing the Sabres are going to win Friday is fatalistic Buffalo sports fan nonsense. The Jackets are 13-1-1 in their last 15. 8 of those wins were against teams currently in the playoffs. The Sabres have only won 9 games on the road all season long.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 8 @ 10:22 PM ET
That would be a feat since they don't play tomorrow.
- Pierceme69



Im obviously clued in



sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 8 @ 10:22 PM ET
Price tag doesn't bother me at all
Declining production does though, so I can understand why some wouldn't want him.
Like I said, I'm pretty biased BC I've always liked him... But who better to lead these kids than a guy that's the Captain of 2 of the past 4 Cup winners?
I wouldn't give up more than a 2nd for him though

- jdfitz77

If we were closer to the playoffs maybe. In 2 years he might be done though
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