nice win tonight.
- SuperHenderson13

Thanks. Kings seem to be on the Oilers lunch menu lately for some odd reason.

Yeah. We know we suck, but we don't have two generational talents leading the way to a golf course.
- TokenBlack

no, you have essentially first overall picks in Hall, RNH and Yak on your roster and can't seem to find yourself any closer to making it out of the worst three in the league. That takes some doing. Ten years from now, you clowns will still be vying for the top overall pick because you can't do anything right.

no, you have essentially first overall picks in Hall, RNH and Yak on your roster and can't seem to find yourself any closer to making it out of the worst three in the league. That takes some doing. Ten years from now, you clowns will still be vying for the top overall pick because you can't do anything right.
- Oneonta Penguin

We all understand that. I'm just amazed at Crosby, Malkin and Fleury NOT leading the Pens to contendership, top 4 defense destroyed or not. I'm happy if you guys miss the playoffs, most lottery picks for the Oilers.

Edit: I like most of you guys, this guy decided to take the bait, so, yeah.

We all understand that. I'm just amazed at Crosby, Malkin and Fleury NOT leading the Pens to contendership, top 4 defense destroyed or not. I'm happy if you guys miss the playoffs, most lottery picks for the Oilers.

Edit: I like most of you guys, this guy decided to take the bait, so, yeah.
- TokenBlack

cant blame MAF for anything. we wouldnt be anywhere near relevance without him this year.

Thanks. Kings seem to be on the Oilers lunch menu lately for some odd reason.
- TokenBlack

Kings, Penguins, and Bruins all are learning the hard way about adjusting in today's NHL.

will be interesting to see who takes the steps to evolve for next year.

Yeah I'm sure that has something to do with it. They mangled the process. As much as I couldn't stand Disco, they shouldn't have handled it that way.

I'm more optimistic with the roster. Especially if we can get a better 3c like Soderberg. They'll have some money to spend. Just can't make any mistakes. If there isn't a miraculous turn around I think they'll go hard after Babcock. His salary is chump change for Burkle.
- madmike71

You are going to have a questionable defense next year with lots of questions, assuming Ehrhoff and Martin are gone. Letang is injury prone, same with Maatta, Scuderi is well, Scuderi ... Lovejoy is a question mark ... Cole, while looking solid, is a question mark and then you have Pouliott. Harrington, Chorney, Dumo ... not a great situation.

There is little on the free agent market that interests me. Frolik and Soberberg are two of the few.

cant blame MAF for anything. we wouldnt be anywhere near relevance without him this year.
- SuperHenderson13

He's been phenomenal. If you guys make the playoffs, it'll be interesting to see if he handles the pressure better.

Kings, Penguins, and Bruins all are learning the hard way about adjusting in today's NHL.

will be interesting to see who takes the steps to evolve for next year.
- SuperHenderson13

Sharks too apparently. This is an odd year for some teams.

He's been phenomenal. If you guys make the playoffs, it'll be interesting to see if he handles the pressure better.
- TokenBlack

Then why did you mention him genius?

Sharks too apparently. This is an odd year for some teams.
- TokenBlack

meh the sharks just are a mess of an organization.

penguins, bruins, and kings realizing that you need more than big name stars because all 3 are in tight races against teams without any big name stars.

You are going to have a questionable defense next year with lots of questions, assuming Ehrhoff and Martin are gone. Letang is injury prone, same with Maatta, Scuderi is well, Scuderi ... Lovejoy is a question mark ... Cole, while looking solid, is a question mark and then you have Pouliott. Harrington, Chorney, Dumo ... not a great situation.

There is little on the free agent market that interests me. Frolik and Soberberg are two of the few.
- Oneonta Penguin

The Despres/Lovejoy deal is tragic I'll give you that. I think they can cobble together a respectable group. Not perfect by any means.

Still I think they can dramatically improve the forward group with a couple key moves.

The east is just crazy right now.

Islanders play us then CBJ, and they're playing about as bad as us right now. I like our chances against Buffalo over theirs against Columbus.

We can also catch Washington who has a really tough two games ahead of them against Boston then the Rangers.

Ottawa plays the Rangers next they beat them Philly probably drops the game on Saturday for giggles. I know I would.

Friday is going to be a bloodbath, its a must win for the Islanders as much as it is for us.

You are going to have a questionable defense next year with lots of questions, assuming Ehrhoff and Martin are gone. Letang is injury prone, same with Maatta, Scuderi is well, Scuderi ... Lovejoy is a question mark ... Cole, while looking solid, is a question mark and then you have Pouliott. Harrington, Chorney, Dumo ... not a great situation.

There is little on the free agent market that interests me. Frolik and Soberberg are two of the few.
- Oneonta Penguin

very much like the two guys listed here.

i think soderberg gets a raise. but i would love him over sutter

meh the sharks just are a mess of an organization.

penguins, bruins, and kings realizing that you need more than big name stars because all 3 are in tight races against teams without any big name stars.
- SuperHenderson13

^This

You need a well balanced team to have any long term success.

^This

You need a well balanced team to have any long term success.
- Garfield512

Just for poops and gigs, a little different than my earlier proposal...

to STL

Malkin + Letang

to PIT

Backes + Tarasenko + Pietrangelo

Just for poops and gigs, a little different than my earlier proposal...

to STL

Malkin + Letang

to PIT

Backes + Tarasenko + Pietrangelo
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Come on man, wait for the off season...

Just for poops and gigs, a little different than my earlier proposal...

to STL

Malkin + Letang

to PIT

Backes + Tarasenko + Pietrangelo
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I don't know if you really wanted an answer from me as I've only seen the Pens play a few times this year.

Anyway, here goes ... IMO, I would definitively keep Letang and Malkin, they are great players that other teams would kill for. My previous comments referred to the supporting cast (3rd and 4th line players, 5th and 6th Dmen).

Most of the time these guys do the dirty jobs and don't get recognized for it from fans ... their teammates however know the value of their commitment and efforts. That's what creates team cohesion and chemistry.

I don't know if you really wanted an answer from me as I've only seen the Pens play a few times this year.

Anyway, here goes ... IMO, I would definitively keep Letang and Malkin, they are great players that other teams would kill for. My previous comments referred to the supporting cast (3rd and 4th line players, 5th and 6th Dmen).

Most of the time these guys do the dirty jobs and don't get recognized for it from fans ... their teammates however know the value of their commitment and efforts. That's what creates team cohesion and chemistry.
- Garfield512

Trading Malkin alone is nuts than the guy adds Letang too. No thanks.

Well people I'm glad I'm a Pens fan tonite & not a Kings one!

Can you believe that it's now possible that the Isles miss the playoffs?

That point 'should' be enough now but Hockey is a funny game. Lots of shot Huron around & understandably after such a hot start. Cannot believe that Lappy got 6 minutes - wasn't he traded for because of his playoff experience? Pretty sure he could have helped out there a little more but hey I'm not the coach nor the C.

Time to saddle up the horse & put some pucks in the Isles net & let them feel a little playoff pressure.

We can count on 1 thing for sure - the Flyers will be doing the Pens NO favours & we probably cannot count on the Rags for anything either after they wrapped up the Presidents trophy today - congratulations to them. Wonder if they will follow the Bruins out the back door like last year??

Let's get it together people & support these highly paid, highly skilled mentally weak mutha fcuffas!

Edit: what the (frank) is shot Huron mean? (frank)ed if I know it was written by my IPad. Sorry!

Before Letang went down I wanted to see what Martin and Lovejoy could do together, I was hoping they could be a shut down pair. Well now that I have seen them together a couple games I don't think that is a good idea. I realize that playing with 5 D for the past two weeks is not a good for anybody. I don't think these two should be paired up at all. They both need young mobile partners to help them, the same with Scuderi.

Before Letang went down I wanted to see what Martin and Lovejoy could do together, I was hoping they could be a shut down pair. Well now that I have seen them together a couple games I don't think that is a good idea. I realize that playing with 5 D for the past two weeks is not a good for anybody. I don't think these two should be paired up at all. They both need young mobile partners to help them, the same with Scuderi.
- Thunderbolt

Didn't we only play 2 games with 5 D? I agree that our D even with Tanger in isn't good enough. Not enough offence & some very easy goals scored against, not enough physical threat in the D either. They tried Hoff & appears it didn't work, I think with the size of Dumo, he needs to get a guernsey next year & someone whisper in his ear to use his size & not be afraid.

A lot to fix but unfortunately not a lot of options. Everyone screaming about depth scoring in the forwards but nobody has put any responsibility on our D for the lack (huge lack), of production. There needs to be a balance & looking at possession numbers & not goals scored & assists made looks to be in vogue at the moment. Have all the possession you like but if you don't score it's useless! The Pens need goals not great numbers. 50 odd shots on goal & score 1 goal? Sid shoots 1 scores 1 today! What advance stat explains that?

Kings, Penguins, and Bruins all are learning the hard way about adjusting in today's NHL.

will be interesting to see who takes the steps to evolve for next year.
- SuperHenderson13

Bruins let go one of their leaders but knew they probably needed to before the end of last season - why they waited so long probably added to the shock for the team & their results showed? The Kings like most other teams lost players early & never really recovered - you can say what you want about Voynov but if he had a season ending injury the result would be the same - that's hockey (he didn't need to allegedly put his wife through the TV but he did (allegedly)). Also appears that their system is playing too hard for their players to sustain. Either the players step up or are replaced or the system/coach changes. The Pens had huge changes & fortunately overachieved early although they showed signs - Stars game at home & the Wings games were both given away too easily. Also not having a consistent roster played its part - a lot of changes via trades & injury & I believe a lot of complacency. When these other guys are playing with Sid & Geno who would think they wouldn't win?

I think the Bruins will be average at best next year, the Kings will trade their bad contracts & try & survive & the Pens need another mini reinvention without the bloodshed of last year. They will still be short on depth due to WBS not having an over population of good prospects & you can only buy so much. The D is going to be the big question I think. With this great hope of having great prospects it might be a rocky road next year. Dumo will be waived to go down I think so he may have to stay up & either learn the hard way or sit & watch, which may not be the best thing for him. Either way there is 1 spot taken.

Or I could just be blowing it out my arse!

Here is some reality. There were 8 one goal games in the NHL last night. An all but one game was closed out by the goalie/team with the lead. No game got to OT but one. And some of the teams that one were badly outshot and outplayed. But they held on to win. Only Four Goal Fleury failed again in an attempt to close out a game. Yeah he played well but again with the game on the line he came up woefully short. The tying goal was on him. Sorry I told my wife it was Fleury time and she said no they are going to win. I was right again (she hates when I am right) He folded again like a cheap suit under pressure. I am done caring abooot these guys

Lovejoy has been bad more than good...that trade is looking really really bad. BB was finally playing great, and he only gets 9 minutes while other guys were just gassed. HCMJ lost them this game tonight, nothing is going to change my mind on this.
- Thorny

You're really an idiot bud... Lovejoy has NOT been bad more than good, BB has a goal, that doesn't instantly mean hes a top 6 winger. Do you even understand hockey, or you just spewing whatever comes to mind before processing it?

They traded away one of their only young, improving, physical defensemen with upside for a non-physical guy about to enter the downside of his career with only a marginally better offensive sense. It was a disaster from the time the trade call went down. It was simply a matter of time before that was evidenced on the ice.
- ScienceJesus

I agree 100%. The Despres deal is mind boggling. Young moble, physical, great size and learning the game for a washed up Lovejoy makes no sense. If you are going to trade Despres get a forward back. That is where the need was. I am just mystified by that move.