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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 6 @ 5:45 PM ET
My problem is I never had a bad cheesesteak in my life. So definitely better then others, but none that I didn't like.
- MJL

have you ever had an out of town/chain store imitation?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 6 @ 5:50 PM ET
If you're expecting him to be a first pair player, then the expectation is the issue in my opinion. He's been in the wrong role the majority of his career, so I think he needs to make a transition from playing a cautious defensive style, to becoming more aggressive offensively, and using his skating more.
- MJL

He's not a top pair defenseman but he's being paid like one. If he's not offensively aggressive enough, that's on him. It's on the player to change this.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Apr 6 @ 5:50 PM ET
My problem is I never had a bad cheesesteak in my life. So definitely better then others, but none that I didn't like.
- MJL

You mean putting sliced steak smothered in cheese on a bun is never bad?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 6 @ 5:53 PM ET
You mean putting sliced steak smothered in cheese on a bun is never bad?
- Grinder47


The trouble is, when you have had a great one, it spoils you. I've had cheesesteaks that people from outside Philly thought were good, and I was like, meh...the roll was soggy, too greasy, cheese not melted enough...yada, yada, yada.

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 6 @ 5:54 PM ET
have you ever had an out of town/chain store imitation?
- BulliesPhan87

The out of town cheese steaks are hilarious. Steak-Ums with nacho cheese and green peppers.

Jim's is still my favorite place.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 6 @ 5:56 PM ET
have you ever had an out of town/chain store imitation?
- BulliesPhan87



Bad experience?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 6 @ 5:57 PM ET
He's not a top pair defenseman but he's being paid like one. If he's not offensively aggressive enough, that's on him. It's on the player to change this.
- SuperSchennBros


Actually, he's not being paid like a top pair defenseman. I agree, it is on him to become more aggressive offensively, and make more of an impact offensively.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 6 @ 6:00 PM ET
Phillies lolzzzz
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 6 @ 6:02 PM ET
Actually, he's not being paid like a top pair defenseman. I agree, it is on him to become more aggressive offensively, and make more of an impact offensively.
- MJL


Okay, so what do you feel is the going price for a top pair defenseman. NOT a number one defenseman, a top pair defenseman. There are complains of Grossmann and Schenn being paid 3.5 and 3.6 million. Apparently, they MUST be dumped right away!
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 6 @ 6:04 PM ET
Phillies lolzzzz
- PhillySportsGuy

I look forward to games where the ticket is 1/8 the cost of a beer.

That place will be an absolute ghost town this summer.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 6 @ 6:05 PM ET
Okay, so what do you feel is the going price for a top pair defenseman. NOT a number one defenseman, a top pair defenseman. There are complains of Grossmann and Schenn being paid 3.5 and 3.6 million. Apparently, they MUST be dumped right away!
- SuperSchennBros


A legitimate top pair defenseman, is going to get a lot more then 5M a year in the free agent market in the NHL. They are more scarce then ever in availability.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 6 @ 6:06 PM ET
A legitimate top pair defenseman, is going to get a lot more then 5M a year in the free agent market in the NHL. They are more scarce then ever in availability.
- MJL

So what is Andrew MacDonald and is he getting paid fair value? Based on what I've seen (which includes last season) he's over paid.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 6 @ 6:07 PM ET
As the season progressed: A story of flyers fan's feelings towards Nick Schultz in the 2014-2015 season

This season: preseason- Nick Schultz is awful, they should never let him see the light of day on the ice, he'll never be more than a 7th defensemen. Quarter way through the season Oh wait... Nick Schultz isn't playing half bad... he's actually doing... do I dare say it? Well? Few weeks later: PRAISE THE LORD WE RESIGNED NICK SCHULTZ. HE'LL BE JUST WHAT WE NEED UNTIL OUR D PROSPECTS ARE READY. WHAT A STEAL. Halfway through the season: Nick Shultz has been our best defenseman. Now Nick Schultz' play has dipped toward the end of this brutal season. (just like every other single player on this team with a deflated morale).

You can't over analyze these last few weeks regarding players' level of play. Like I said, a lot of these guys are probably a little disappointed with how the season progressed so you can't blame them for playing a little sub par. I'd have trouble giving it my absolute all with that dunce of a coach trying to pump me up and motivate me to play my hardest on games that mostly don't matter. Also another factor is, for all we know, the flyers brass might be telling them take it easy in the rest of the games so that we can get better draft position. Idk. I'm clearly no expert. Just a flyers fan. I don't think the defense that was listed would be as awful as this years. They all seem to be competent nhl defenders, minus grossman and gudas, they can all move pretty well. Idk we'll just have to wait and see.

- benjichronic


As I've said before, the Flyers have cornered the market on 4-6 dmen. MDZ is the best of the bunch and he's not getting top pair minutes on a contender.

Gotta face some painful facts folks. There are no legit top pair guys available in FA nor will anybody trade you one unless you massively overpay. Barring a miracle, the Flyers D coros won't be ready to contend for 3 to 5 years. It's why I'd be open to trading anyone over the age of 26, including Giroux.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 6 @ 6:07 PM ET
I look forward to games where the ticket is 1/8 the cost of a beer.

That place will be an absolute ghost town this summer.

- hereticpride


I can't wait.

They will be the embarrassment of a city with no playoff teams.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 6 @ 6:08 PM ET
Would it be too gluttonous of me to have one of each next time I'm there?
- PLindbergh31

Your cardiologist will love you
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 6 @ 6:09 PM ET
So what is Andrew MacDonald and is he getting paid fair value? Based on what I've seen (which includes last season) he's over paid.
- SuperSchennBros


Slightly overpaid. I would've preferred around 4.5M.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 6 @ 6:10 PM ET
As I've said before, the Flyers have cornered the market on 4-6 dmen. MDZ is the best of the bunch and he's not getting top pair minutes on a contender.

Gotta face some painful facts folks. There are no legit top pair guys available in FA nor will anybody trade you one unless you massively overpay. Barring a miracle, the Flyers D coros won't be ready to contend for 3 to 5 years. It's why I'd be open to trading anyone over the age of 26, including Giroux.

- BiggE


It's the biggest problem facing this team moving forward. How to get the defense caught up without sitting and waiting for 3-5 years. It's part of what makes even the thought of trading Giroux somewhat reasonable.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 6 @ 6:10 PM ET
Slightly overpaid. I would've preferred around 4.5M.
- MJL


Could you imagine this team without Amac? They'd be terrible?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 6 @ 6:11 PM ET
Slightly overpaid. I would've preferred around 4.5M.
- MJL

I could live with this cap hit.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 6 @ 6:12 PM ET
Could you imagine this team without Amac? They'd be terrible?
- PhillySportsGuy

We are terrible!!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 6 @ 6:12 PM ET
have you ever had an out of town/chain store imitation?
- BulliesPhan87

Never order a cheesesteak when you are more than 100 miles from Philly.


It is known.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 6 @ 6:14 PM ET
Phillies lolzzzz
- PhillySportsGuy

Hope they enjoy picking 1st overall next summer. At least Reading has some nice prospects to watch.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 6 @ 6:15 PM ET
We are terrible!!
- SuperSchennBros


Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 6 @ 6:16 PM ET
Bill had a strong opinion and backed it up with facts.
- johndewar


Yes, this is true.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 6 @ 6:18 PM ET
Could you imagine this team without Amac? They'd be terrible?
- PhillySportsGuy


You should make a list of which players you think that applies to and which it doesn't.
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