What a weekend, eh?
- BulliesPhan87

Go back to Canada.

He only adds that stuff when the Penguins win. Like last time they played the Flyers, there was no recap or all this stupid analytics this guy does. It was, "because we were missing Letang and Malkin I'm not focusing on it."

Lets face the facts, yes the penguins had a lot of bad injuries this year, including the most recent to Letang, which was IMO a good hockey hit unlike your recent post about emilinating it from the game. If that hit was done at center ice there is a lesser chance of a concussion becuse his head doesn't hit the boards. Bad timing and placement and it happens in this game. Such as the Chara hit on Pacioretty a few years ago, bad timing and placement on the ice. Does that mean we need to take hits out on the side of the ice the benches are on, too?
- BernieKorch

The Penguins lost.... and yet its there. And he has data after nearly every game. So, what are you talking about bud?

In all likeliehood, this will be enough to make the playoffs no matter what else happens.
- jmatchett383

Most likely, but if New York wins tonight and tomorrow, they will have the conference locked up and might not have much to play for.

Big believer in peak performance theory for hockey teams. Top players (forwards) peak out at age 26-27. More important, once top performance has been accomplished the player will begin to see a constant progressive decline in their performance.

Pens best players have clearly peaked. The decline will be constant and relentless as we go forward. The fallacy that people want to believe is that you can somehow effectively rebuild around an asset pool that is in clear decline.

Pens are at risk of missing playoffs and not having a 1st round pick. This is not good asset management.
- spatso

Yeah leading the league in scoring with 6 less games than anyone close to you while playing in a new system where he had to be more defensively responsible is total decline. What a purely idiotic thing to say. Before Malkin was injured he and Crosby were 1 and 2 in scoring and Malkin still looks like the most dangerous player on the ice when he goes for a shift. Yeah that's decline all right. The penguins real problem, aside from some players slumping at an awful time is they have only had a healthy team 3 games in the last 3 months. And they won those 3 games and they were all elite teams. If this team had letang, ehrhoff, Maatta and dupuis right now they would have clinched the playoffs long ago.

Go back to Canada.
- jmatchett383

pls stop I'm trying to set up troll shop here

Crosby can't win. If he slams his stick and yells, he's a crying, cry baby. If he doesn't show outward emotion, then he doesn't care.

He seems to talk a lot on the bench to guys, and none of us know how he acts in the room.

It's literally impossible to judge someone's leadership from the outside. Leadership is so cliche in sport. If he goes out and scores a big goal, people will say he's leading. If he doesn't score, then he's not a good leader.
- rival22

Blows my mind to see people critique and come down on 87. The guy isnt a "rah-rah" leader, that much is obvious by now, but you cant question his leadership. He goes hard every shift, gets into more dirty areas than most elite players and is quite responsible in the defensive zone. This is a top heavy team with top tier injuries plain and simple.

Crosby can't win. If he slams his stick and yells, he's a crying, cry baby. If he doesn't show outward emotion, then he doesn't care.

He seems to talk a lot on the bench to guys, and none of us know how he acts in the room.

It's literally impossible to judge someone's leadership from the outside. Leadership is so cliche in sport. If he goes out and scores a big goal, people will say he's leading. If he doesn't score, then he's not a good leader.
- rival22

No when he gets hit and act like he's dying, thats when people think he's a crying crybaby!!1

The Penguins lost.... and yet its there. And he has data after nearly every game. So, what are you talking about bud?
- Guile

I haven't seen it on here!!

So it was a good hockey hit but you're basically calling it boarding? Just trying to keep up.
- cory7321

No it wasn't boarding, Doan hit him straight on, not while Letangs back was showing to Doan. Plus Letang was about 8 ft from the boards, he flew back that far and hard.

Big believer in peak performance theory for hockey teams. Top players (forwards) peak out at age 26-27. More important, once top performance has been accomplished the player will begin to see a constant progressive decline in their performance.

Pens best players have clearly peaked. The decline will be constant and relentless as we go forward. The fallacy that people want to believe is that you can somehow effectively rebuild around an asset pool that is in clear decline.

Pens are at risk of missing playoffs and not having a 1st round pick. This is not good asset management.
- spatso

wow just wow.
The NHL scoring leader is in decline!
pens can breathe a lot easier after the sens loss. twice in 8 days to the leafs gotta hurt!

Amazing possession nimbers and scoring chances, but horrible shooting percentage? Seems to me the problem is a severe lack of talent aside from crosby and malkin. We can get all the opportunities we want and control the puck as much as we want but honestly how likely is it going in the net with players like bennett, adam, lapierre shooting it?

The sad part of all of this is..........They knew they needed help at the forward position. So what do they do at the trade deadline....they trade dmen for dmen. Duh!
If they were going to trade, it should have been a dman for forwards. Defense was not the problem as they were not giving up a lot of goals. They addressed an area that really did not need to be addressed. And you have stats like all of those zeros getting nothing accomplished Makes no sense

I haven't seen it on here!!
- BernieKorch

Do you even look here often? Usually our first page or two is people mocking/complaining about too many graphs and advanced stats.

No it wasn't boarding, Doan hit him straight on, not while Letangs back was showing to Doan. Plus Letang was about 8 ft from the boards, he flew back that far and hard.
- BernieKorch

The hit itself wasnt a penalty and yes the location was what caused the injury, but I will say it was probably not needed. I am all for hard hitting and physical styled game and i dont have a huge problem with the hit, but with that being said there is no doubt any Penguins backer would and should be upset with it. Borderline clean/ dirty but without a direct target to the head or a clear hit from behind its impossible to eliminate these from the game. Overall i dont think they should be eliminated as its a fast paced physical game and just hope and pray that Giroux is never on the receiving end of it because i would be up in arms just the same if it were a top tiered flyer player.

The sad part of all of this is..........They knew they needed help at the forward position. So what do they do at the trade deadline....they trade dmen for dmen. Duh!
If they were going to trade, it should have been a dman for forwards. Defense was not the problem as they were not giving up a lot of goals. They addressed an area that really did not need to be addressed. And you have stats like all of those zeros getting nothing accomplished Makes no sense
- holeinone

Which forwards should they have gotten for the pieces they were willing to move?

No when he gets hit and act like he's dying, thats when people think he's a crying crybaby!!1
- BernieKorch

You are a typical flyers fan AKA a moron. Please go sniff markers or inhale gas fumes, AKA a normal day in Philadelphia. Or find out where the flyers are golfing next week and troll their message board.

Which forwards should they have gotten for the pieces they were willing to move?
- jmatchett383

Does not getting rid of Arcobello count? Hell, I'd rather have kept Klink too inplace of Lap and or Adams. And his name, Klinkhammer... so worth.

You are a typical flyers fan AKA a moron. Please go sniff markers or inhale gas fumes, AKA a normal day in Philadelphia. Or find out where the flyers are golfing next week and troll their message board.
- Dcoms

they can leave an open invite for Sid when they hit the links

y'know, just in case

The sad part of all of this is..........They knew they needed help at the forward position. So what do they do at the trade deadline....they trade dmen for dmen. Duh!
If they were going to trade, it should have been a dman for forwards. Defense was not the problem as they were not giving up a lot of goals. They addressed an area that really did not need to be addressed. And you have stats like all of those zeros getting nothing accomplished Makes no sense
- holeinone

I hope the ownership seriously considers moving on from Rutherford if the Pens don't make the playoffs. It might only be one season mired in injuries, but Shero got fired for not making the conference finals with a team that was injured and not very good either. It's a little different if Rutherford wasn't making short-term trades, but he was and deserves losing his head if they don't work out.

Does not getting rid of Arcobello count? Hell, I'd rather have kept Klink too inplace of Lap and or Adams. And his name, Klinkhammer... so worth.
- Guile

I always liked Klinkhammer. Fairly good bottom-6 player and an awesome name. But really, Tlusty and Jagr were the "big" names at the TDL, and the Pens didn't have the pieces to get them unless they were willing to overpay.

they can leave an open invite for Sid when they hit the links

y'know, just in case
- BulliesPhan87

Crosby would never play golf with them. He doesn't like anyone on their team.

Does not getting rid of Arcobello count? Hell, I'd rather have kept Klink too inplace of Lap and or Adams. And his name, Klinkhammer... so worth.
- Guile

Lapierre's breakway on the penalty kill yesterday was embarassing. I realize he isnt a scorer or the fastest guy but a half slap shot from above the circles?

Does not getting rid of Arcobello count? Hell, I'd rather have kept Klink too inplace of Lap and or Adams. And his name, Klinkhammer... so worth.
- Guile

To be fair, getting Perron was a good move, unlike trading literally anything for Lapierre.

Crosby would never play golf with them. He doesn't like anyone on their team.
- jmatchett383

Lapierre's breakway on the penalty kill yesterday was embarassing. I realize he isnt a scorer or the fastest guy but a half slap shot from above the circles?
- did109

He doesn't do anything offensively and has been poor defensively. The trade of him for Goc has been a failure. At least Goc was good defensively. But Lapierre has "grit" so it was worth it.