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dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Mar 31 @ 3:30 PM ET
need pool advice

Need a goalie win
Do I start

Mrazek vs Ottawa
Schneider vs Columbus

- senstroll


Schneider. I wouldn't start anyone against Ottawa.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 31 @ 3:38 PM ET
Schneider. I wouldn't start anyone against Ottawa.
- dt99999


I hate the sens
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Mar 31 @ 3:39 PM ET
I hate the sens
- senstroll

well then you're in the right place.
PinkSock
Montreal Canadiens
Location: https://nhl66.ir/
Joined: 07.23.2010

Mar 31 @ 3:48 PM ET
Schneider. I wouldn't start anyone against Ottawa.
- dt99999



"Ottawa Senators and Stanley Cups is to Don Cherry and Europeans"
- Unknown
dwoo33
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.24.2010

Mar 31 @ 3:51 PM ET
And a first round pick... What are you expecting?
- dwoo33

I didn't say Kessel would only net a couple of B-level prospects and a dump. I implied, using a trade with Florida as an example, that we would likely see a return that looks similar to the following two scenarios:

FLA -Kessel
TOR- 2015 1st(10-15 overall), Trocheck, Petrovic, 1 of-Jokinen/Mitchell/Boyes (Money coming back).......or

FLA -Kessel, Polak
TOR - 2015 1st(10-15 overall), Gudbranson, Trocheck, 1 of Joknen/Mitchell/Boyes

Going to get some good pieces and a solid pick in a deep draft but we won't be getting a Barkov or Huberdeau. Guys like Trocheck and Petrovic aren't first pairing/top line players but they are second pairing/second line potential guys that are young and ready for ice time/experience in those roles. Good pieces to bring in as we move out Phaneuf, Lupul, Kessel, Bozak ect.



dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Mar 31 @ 3:52 PM ET
"Ottawa Senators and Stanley Cups is to Don Cherry and Europeans"
- Unknown

- PinkSock


I see.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Mar 31 @ 3:53 PM ET
There are things in this post that make very little sense.
- Pecafan Fan


My bad, David Atkins is an Australian.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Mar 31 @ 3:54 PM ET
Polish people are poor at hockey


- AdamFrench


well i certainly suck ass at it
TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

Mar 31 @ 3:54 PM ET
I didn't say Kessel would only net a couple of B-level prospects and a dump. I implied, using a trade with Florida as an example, that we would likely see a return that looks similar to the following two scenarios:

FLA -Kessel
TOR- 2015 1st(10-15 overall), Trocheck, Petrovic, 1 of-Jokinen/Mitchell/Boyes (Money coming back).......or

FLA -Kessel, Polak
TOR - 2015 1st(10-15 overall), Gudbranson, Trocheck, 1 of Joknen/Mitchell/Boyes

Going to get some good pieces and a solid pick in a deep draft but we won't be getting a Barkov or Huberdeau. Guys like Trocheck and Petrovic aren't first pairing/top line players but they are second pairing/second line potential guys that are young and ready for ice time/experience in those roles. Good pieces to bring in as we move out Phaneuf, Lupul, Kessel, Bozak ect.

- dwoo33


Not enough for Phil.

if we don't get a good young player like Huberdeau along with the 1st, then Florida can (frank) off.

Seriously, they are the ones who need the scoring. Leafs only responsibility is to be awful for the next couple years. Having Phil on this roster doesn't really mitigate that


They hold no cards whatsoever, so these teams can take their table scraps and shove 'em
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 31 @ 3:55 PM ET
My bad, David Atkins is an Australian.
- bloatedmosquito


That actually makes it even worse
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 31 @ 3:56 PM ET
Not enough for Phil.

if we don't get a good young player like Huberdeau along with the 1st, then Florida can (frank) off.

Seriously, they are the ones who need the scoring. Leafs only responsibility is to be awful for the next couple years. Having Phil on this roster doesn't really mitigate that


They hold no cards whatsoever, so these teams can take their table scraps and shove 'em

- TheThrill


Kessel will remain a Leaf.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Mar 31 @ 3:57 PM ET
Kessel will remain a Leaf.
- Pecafan Fan


in his heart
PinkSock
Montreal Canadiens
Location: https://nhl66.ir/
Joined: 07.23.2010

Mar 31 @ 3:59 PM ET
Kessel will remain a Leaf.
- Pecafan Fan

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Mar 31 @ 4:14 PM ET
LOL:

Stephen Brunt on Sportsnet 960 radio on the Maple Leafs:

“Part of what’s gone on here is that they’ve managed to produce a team that is not just bad, but appears to not give a damn,” Brunt told Boomer and Rhett. “It’s almost rubbing it in people’s faces – the lack of try, the lack of effort.”

“They are the least likable group of professional athletes I think I’ve ever been around,” said Brunt. “I don’t know these guys. Just the way they play, outside of the arena, the way they come across – they come across as the opposite of plucky underdogs that are trying really, really hard even if they’re not quite good enough. This is talented guys who are getting paid enormous amounts of money who stopped trying a long time ago and are kind of laughing at everybody. And that’s a bad vibe if you’re a consumer.

“That’s a bad vibe if you’re a fan, to think they care way less than I do. And that’s how it’s coming across whether that’s 100 per cent true. It is really, really sour here.”
dwoo33
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.24.2010

Mar 31 @ 4:18 PM ET
Not enough for Phil.

if we don't get a good young player like Huberdeau along with the 1st, then Florida can (frank) off.

Seriously, they are the ones who need the scoring. Leafs only responsibility is to be awful for the next couple years. Having Phil on this roster doesn't really mitigate that


They hold no cards whatsoever, so these teams can take their table scraps and shove 'em

- TheThrill

The deal would remove a chunk of long term salary with out taking anything long term hindering back in return. Also getting 3 good pieces for the rebuild. Petrovic is a former 2nd round pick (36th over all) right handed d-man and Trocheck is a former 3rd rounder (64th over all) centre. So a 1st, 2nd, 3rd for Kessel pretty much and not having to eat a portion of his salary seems fair. A better deal might be out there contingent on us eating a portion of his contract for 7 more years. I don't believe labelling these prospects "table scraps" is a proper assessment and I think your dreaming by expecting Huberdeau and the 1st.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 31 @ 4:36 PM ET
LOL:

Stephen Brunt on Sportsnet 960 radio on the Maple Leafs:

“Part of what’s gone on here is that they’ve managed to produce a team that is not just bad, but appears to not give a damn,” Brunt told Boomer and Rhett. “It’s almost rubbing it in people’s faces – the lack of try, the lack of effort.”

“They are the least likable group of professional athletes I think I’ve ever been around,” said Brunt. “I don’t know these guys. Just the way they play, outside of the arena, the way they come across – they come across as the opposite of plucky underdogs that are trying really, really hard even if they’re not quite good enough. This is talented guys who are getting paid enormous amounts of money who stopped trying a long time ago and are kind of laughing at everybody. And that’s a bad vibe if you’re a consumer.

“That’s a bad vibe if you’re a fan, to think they care way less than I do. And that’s how it’s coming across whether that’s 100 per cent true. It is really, really sour here.”

- PatC80


why the "lol" ?
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Mar 31 @ 4:37 PM ET
why the "lol" ?
- Pecafan Fan

I lolled too
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 31 @ 4:40 PM ET
I lolled too
- dt99999


well, yeah, me too. But mostly because what's written there is pretty accurate.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 31 @ 4:52 PM ET
well, yeah, me too. But mostly because what's written there is pretty accurate.
- Pecafan Fan



I want in

LOL
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Mar 31 @ 4:54 PM ET
well, yeah, me too. But mostly because what's written there is pretty accurate.
- Pecafan Fan


I wonder if Nonis even mentions his time as a GM with leafs on his resume. Better off not to.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 31 @ 4:57 PM ET
I want in

LOL

- Canada Cup


It's completely (frank)ed up.

And I've said that numerous times already, I'm pretty sure that game seven against Boston is at the root of this (frank)ing mess.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 31 @ 5:12 PM ET
I wonder if Nonis even mentions his time as a GM with leafs on his resume. Better off not to.
- bloatedmosquito


Should really focus on that time that he managed to get Vancouver three of the league's top two goalies
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 31 @ 5:14 PM ET
It's completely (frank)ed up.

And I've said that numerous times already, I'm pretty sure that game seven against Boston is at the root of this (frank)ing mess.

- Pecafan Fan



The good news is that it made it easier for Shanahan to go to the Board with his scorched earth policy
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Mar 31 @ 5:25 PM ET
Reimer again tonight! Woohoo!!!!!!!!!
PinkSock
Montreal Canadiens
Location: https://nhl66.ir/
Joined: 07.23.2010

Mar 31 @ 5:29 PM ET
With the 2015 NHL Entry Draft coming up in a few months, here now is a list of the Top 10 players that have been skipped in the past but are deserving of a selection this year.


reading this article, couple guys id take a flyer on with a mid round pick


LW Vladimir Tkachev: 32 points in 29 games

Tiny (roughly 5’8″ and 160 pounds) but oozing skill, Tkachev won’t be passed over at the entry draft again. His scoring rate is down from where it was last season, but with magical puck handling abilities there will certainly be teams that come calling.

RW Conor Garland: 125 points in 65 games

The leading scorer for the entire QMJHL, Garland’s hockey path has been anything but conventional, growing up in Boston but now playing for the Moncton Wildcats in the Q. Now in his second year of draft eligibility, teams would be insane to not take a flyer on someone producing at such a high pace, despite also being well on the smaller side of things.

C Trevor Cox: 104 points in 65 games

Going from 39 points up to 82 and then 104 so far this season, Cox’s scoring trajectory has been sky-high. Another tiny forward passed over (twice) because of his size, Cox is one of the best passers in the entire WHL and would be a worthwhile gamble with a 6th or 7th round pick.

C Tim McGauley: 103 points in 69 games

One might initially think that McGauley’s numbers are inflated because he plays for the Brandon Wheat Kings, one of the best teams in the WHL, but with a whopping 30 points more than his closest teammate he’s certainly carrying his fair share of the weight. A successful playoff run to cap off the season could make him too tempting for teams to pass up.

D Darren Raddysh: 43 points in 56 games

Speaking of inflated numbers, Raddysh’s point totals undeniably get a boost by playing on the same Erie Otters team as generational phenom Connor McDavid, but that doesn’t make him any less of a player individually. Raddysh is an effective puck-moving, two-way defenseman, something that organizations are finding more and more valuable in the new, faster NHL.

C Reid Gardiner: 60 points in 63 games

One of the more surprising snubs from last year’s draft, playing on a bad Raiders team up in the remote northern city of Prince Albert, Saskatchewan doesn’t exactly help Gardiner’s draft stock. Still, with 33 goals, a very responsible two-way game and a great work ethic, there’s a lot to like here, enough to give Gardiner some legitimate NHL potential.

LW Pius Suter: 67 points in 58 games

39 goals in 58 games in the OHL is enough to make NHL scouts stop and take notice, but scoring twice for his native Switzerland at this year’s World Juniors certainly helps his cause a lot as well. Was passed over last year, but is now more adjusted to hockey in North America and could be rewarded for a surprisingly productive season.

G Adin Hill: 29-9-1 record, .923 save percentage in 43 games

Everyone loves a winner, right? Playing on a powerhouse team like the Portland Winterhawks means that Hill might not always be challenged as much as goalies on other teams, but this season he’s been head and shoulders above any other goalie that’s dressed for his squad. Great natural size at 6’4″ yet still able to move around the crease well.

C Matt Needham: 73 points in 68 games

He’ll never blow you away on the ice or have his stats jump off the scoresheet, but with an abundance of smarts and versatility Needham is the type of player that has “pro” written all over him. Was passed over at the draft twice already but is still more than good enough of a player to warrant an NHL team using a late pick on him.

LW Andrew Mangiapane: 102 points in 66 games

Each member of Mangiapane’s forward line on the Barrie Colts has cracked the 100-point plateau already this season, which raises the questions about who’s driving that bus and how much Mangiapane himself could do away from the other two. Still, any 18 year-old that can do that can score 100 points in the OHL deserves a good, hard look from scouts.
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