Agreed. I think Okafor will be a great offensive player but average at best defensively. Towns probably has more potential because he can play both ends of the floor well, but he's not close to Okafor in terms of having a polished offensive game.

Id be very happy with any of the three guys I listed. Reminds me of last year when I felt Wiggins, Embiid and Parker were the three studs then there was a bit of a drop off. I like some other guys like Stanley Johnson, Mudiay and Winslow but I don't feel like they'll be stars like the top 3.
- PhillySportsGuy

johnson has some freaky athleticism, but yeah, i agree.

i do think if noel is in the long term plans, he would be able to cover for okafor's D. i do think okafor would be able to be a decent scorer at the next level.

I would be down with any of the following:

1) Dissolving the team
2) Moving the team
3) Trying to put a winning team on the floor and drafting accordingly
4) Not trading all of his good players away to intentionally be bad

Over what he is currently doing. If you want to do this, then do it when there's a Kobe/Durant/Duncan/James coming up.
- jmatchett383

I don't know where you're getting your information but this is a good draft with potential franchise changing talents in the top 10

i miss harry k.

he helped a lot.
- stayinthefnnet

Definitely.

Last Thursday was Harry the K's 79th birthday.....

johnson has some freaky athleticism, but yeah, i agree.

i do think if noel is in the long term plans, he would be able to cover for okafor's D. i do think okafor would be able to be a decent scorer at the next level.
- stayinthefnnet

Noel's defensive versatility makes him so valuable. I know Hinkie will always make the smart decision and remove emotion, but deep down I want them to keep him long term.

I don't know where you're getting your information but this is a good draft with potential franchise changing talents in the top 10
- PhillySportsGuy

I have a friend who is as into Basketball as I am hockey. He tells me there isn't a single player in this draft who's a Franchise talent.

I don't know where you're getting your information but this is a good draft with potential franchise changing talents in the top 10
- PhillySportsGuy

Which of these 3 magical picks that Sam Hinkie has decimated his team to acquire do you think can be used to select a franchise-changing player a la the names I mentioned?

If (if) the Sixers get him, he'll be traded for a first round pick within a year and a half. That's my issue with Hinkie: it seems like he'll never be happy and keep trading his "veterans" for more draft picks. At what point will he stop and just let the players develop?
- jmatchett383

that is true. but i dont know him well enough to know when he will stop the wheel.

not that i have great insider information, but especially about the MCW trade, the guy i talked to basically said that for as much as everyone liked him, there was a strong feeling that ultimately his numbers were largely inflated by being "the man" on a crappy team, and that he really didnt have that high of a ceiling. had a very good chance of being a decent player, but pretty much no chance of being a great one.

I have a friend who is as into Basketball as I am hockey. He tells me there isn't a single player in this draft who's a Franchise talent.
- mayorofangrytown

I know nothing about Basketball and really dislike the sport a lot but when was the last one? they don't seem to be all that readily available.

Which of these 3 magical picks that Sam Hinkie has decimated his team to acquire do you think can be used to select a franchise-changing player a la the names I mentioned?
- jmatchett383

i dont know enough to declare franchise changing guys. but there are some decent guys coming out.

did people think anthony davis would be this good, this fast? i sure didnt. and now he might be a top 3 or 4 valuable asset in the whole league.

what i will say for hinkie, is that what the decimation is involved, its not like he tore down something great, or even on the verge of being above average.

I know nothing about Basketball and really dislike the sport a lot but when was the last one? they don't seem to be all that readily available.
- nastyflyergirl

They really aren't and in basketball you need two to win a championship. Look at James, there's almost no chance he wins anything in Cleveland by himself.

I have a friend who is as into Basketball as I am hockey. He tells me there isn't a single player in this draft who's a Franchise talent.
- mayorofangrytown

Well I disagree. So does just about every basketball analyst

Whoever the Sixers pick, he'll suffer a season-ending injury before the season starts.

But just wait, if/when he gets healthy, he'll be a perennial All-Star...based on college and high school competition before he became a cripple.
- jmatchett383

Yeah, Noel is awful

I would be down with any of the following:

1) Dissolving the team
2) Moving the team
3) Trying to put a winning team on the floor and drafting accordingly
4) Not trading all of his good players away to intentionally be bad

Over what he is currently doing. If you want to do this, then do it when there's a Kobe/Durant/Duncan/James coming up.
- jmatchett383

Interesting

Which of these 3 magical picks that Sam Hinkie has decimated his team to acquire do you think can be used to select a franchise-changing player a la the names I mentioned?
- jmatchett383

Which picks are you talking about? The Lakers pick, heats pick and OKC pick? They will have a top 5 pick of their own. Heats pick will be 11-15, OKC will likely be 19th. Laker pick will be 6 or 7 this year or transfers to next year

I have a friend who is as into Basketball as I am hockey. He tells me there isn't a single player in this draft who's a Franchise talent.
- mayorofangrytown

When is the last time there was? Is wiggins considered one? Embiid? All these recent drafts have sucked. The rest of the league is picking garbage too

Which picks are you talking about? The Lakers pick, heats pick and OKC pick? They will have a top 5 pick of their own. Heats pick will be 11-15, OKC will likely be 19th. Laker pick will be 6 or 7 this year or transfers to next year
- PhillySportsGuy

I was assuming they weren't keeping the Lakers pick.

Which of these 3 magical picks that Sam Hinkie has decimated his team to acquire do you think can be used to select a franchise-changing player a la the names I mentioned?
- jmatchett383

By the way, those picks were acquired by trading MCW, Thad Young and taking on a bad contract for next season.

Not exactly destroying the franchise

By the way, those picks were acquired by trading MCW, Thad Young and taking on a bad contract for next season.

Not exactly destroying the franchise
- PhillySportsGuy

Wonder if Colorado will trade us the reigning Rookie of the Year for a mid-1st round pick.

Wonder if Colorado will trade us the reigning Rookie of the Year for a mid-1st round pick.
- jmatchett383

Hate all you want. The Sixers are built better for future success than the Flyers

Hate all you want. The Sixers are built better for future success than the Flyers
- PhillySportsGuy

IF their draft picks pan out the way they hope. Otherwise, get ready for year after year of sucking and hoping.

I just have a real problem with a team intentionally assembling a bad roster and trading all players of any value for future picks. It's an insult to the fans, in my opinion. The Sixers have become a joke, and I'm not sold on this idea.

IF their draft picks pan out the way they hope. Otherwise, get ready for year after year of sucking and hoping.

I just have a real problem with a team intentionally assembling a bad roster and trading all players of any value for future picks. It's an insult to the fans, in my opinion. The Sixers have become a joke, and I'm not sold on this idea.
- jmatchett383

to me the joke reflects more on the state of the league, rather than the team.

IF their draft picks pan out the way they hope. Otherwise, get ready for year after year of sucking and hoping.

I just have a real problem with a team intentionally assembling a bad roster and trading all players of any value for future picks. It's an insult to the fans, in my opinion. The Sixers have become a joke, and I'm not sold on this idea.
- jmatchett383

They've set themselves up to have multiple chances of getting elite talent. They can develop it, trade for it or sign it.

You have to realize that when Hinkie took over, the Sixers had very little talent (25 win team) AND owed draft picks to teams like the magic and Heat that were only top 10 protected. If Hinkie didn't do this, the Sixers would have been slightly better while also risking losing their picks.

2 seasons of failing to qualify for the playoffs, with a first round exit sandwiched in over the last 3 years..... + 40 year cup draught, and 80+ year old owner...

Yeah.... MT Snider is going to erupt.

They've set themselves up to have multiple chances of getting elite talent. They can develop it, trade for it or sign it.

You have to realize that when Hinkie took over, the Sixers had very little talent (25 win team) AND owed draft picks to teams like the magic and Heat that were only top 10 protected. If Hinkie didn't do this, the Sixers would have been slightly better while also risking losing their picks.
- PhillySportsGuy

thats the thing.

its not like hinkie took over a young promising team only a piece or two away. he inherited something about as bad as bad could be, with very little liquid assets available at his disposal to attempt to right the ship.

granted, he doesnt have a ton of tangible things to show for it, but at least he has a possibility of hitting on things. more than they had.

They've set themselves up to have multiple chances of getting elite talent. They can develop it, trade for it or sign it.

You have to realize that when Hinkie took over, the Sixers had very little talent (25 win team) AND owed draft picks to teams like the magic and Heat that were only top 10 protected. If Hinkie didn't do this, the Sixers would have been slightly better while also risking losing their picks.
- PhillySportsGuy

I mean, in a sense I do understand what he's doing, and it's really what the league is forcing him to do. But, to me, aside from the early 80s, the Sixers have always been the "other" team in Philadelphia. If they moved the team, 3 years down the road, people would be going, "Wait: didn't we have a basketball team at some point?" (the same could be said about the Flyers but not for the majority of the 90s/00s). They're just a bad team, and aside from the 1 Finals year and the upset of the injury-riddled Bulls, they've been terrible for going on 2 decades now.