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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 31 @ 1:09 PM ET
Just read that they are making liquor and wine more readily available at Phillies games this year. Looking at their roster, I think that's a very wise move.
- BiggE


Lol. I can't wait until the first college student dies and this team is sued for billions and they're forced to sell.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 31 @ 1:10 PM ET
There are 96 total minutes between PF and C each night. That's 32 for each big man each night. That's about the maximum amount you want to play a big man during the course of the season.

If you have three stud big men, you'll likely need to trade one eventually because of impending FA but that would be a problem for 2-3 years from now.

All of them would get plenty of minutes and there is no shortage of teams looking for young big men with all star potential.

- PhillySportsGuy


would you take town or okafor if you had the first pick?

sorry if that was addressed earlier. just curious.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Mar 31 @ 1:11 PM ET
We'd still find a way to (frank) it up.
- BiggE

Maybe.
But at least teams would still need a good roster to compete.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 31 @ 1:11 PM ET
There are 96 total minutes between PF and C each night. That's 32 for each big man each night. That's about the maximum amount you want to play a big man during the course of the season.

If you have three stud big men, you'll likely need to trade one eventually because of impending FA but that would be a problem for 2-3 years from now.

All of them would get plenty of minutes and there is no shortage of teams looking for young big men with all star potential.

- PhillySportsGuy


But you'd have 3 centers and 3 power forwards, or 2 and 4. How would you work them all in, and how many tall men jerseys can you realistically expect one team to make?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 31 @ 1:12 PM ET
would you take town or okafor if you had the first pick?

sorry if that was addressed earlier. just curious.

- stayinthefnnet


Whoever the Sixers pick, he'll suffer a season-ending injury before the season starts.

But just wait, if/when he gets healthy, he'll be a perennial All-Star...based on college and high school competition before he became a cripple.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 31 @ 1:13 PM ET
would you take town or okafor if you had the first pick?

sorry if that was addressed earlier. just curious.

- stayinthefnnet


Yes unless some desperate team like the Lakers or Knicks made a ridiculous offer
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 31 @ 1:14 PM ET
But you'd have 3 centers and 3 power forwards, or 2 and 4. How would you work them all in, and how many tall men jerseys can you realistically expect one team to make?
- jmatchett383


I'm saying having 3 stud big men would be like having 3 #1 defenseman. It would be a good problem to have
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 31 @ 1:14 PM ET
I'm saying having 3 stud big men would be like having 3 #1 defenseman. It would be a good problem to have
- PhillySportsGuy


But basketball.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 31 @ 1:15 PM ET
Yes unless some desperate team like the Lakers or Knicks made a ridiculous offer
- PhillySportsGuy


should have been more clear.

i meant which of those two.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 31 @ 1:17 PM ET
Hinkie is a genious. I stand by my statement when they traded Holliday that the sixers are the closest to a championship in the city. Right now they are in position to draft 3 times in the top 20. That is unheard of in any draft
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 31 @ 1:18 PM ET
should have been more clear.

i meant which of those two.

- stayinthefnnet


1. Okafor
2. Towns
3. Russell
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 31 @ 1:18 PM ET
Hinkie is a genious. I stand by my statement when they traded Holliday that the sixers are the closest to a championship in the city. Right now they are in position to draft 3 times in the top 20. That is unheard of in any draft
- Just5


Possibly 4 times if the Lakers pick falls to 6
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Mar 31 @ 1:18 PM ET
http://sports.yahoo.com/b...g-incident-165706922.html

update on that deveaux situation
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 31 @ 1:20 PM ET
1. Okafor
2. Towns
3. Russell

- PhillySportsGuy


okafor is one of the best guys in the post down low with offense that i can remember coming out in a while. but the defense doesnt seem as good as you would hope from someone his size. although i guess that could enable him and noel to really be able to gel together.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 31 @ 1:20 PM ET
Hinkie is a genious. I stand by my statement when they traded Holliday that the sixers are the closest to a championship in the city. Right now they are in position to draft 3 times in the top 20. That is unheard of in any draft
- Just5


How many Kobe/Durant/James-esque players are in this draft?

How many Garnett's? David Robinson's? Tim Duncan's?

From what I've read, this draft is choc full of a few Alonzo Mourning's followed by some Larry Johnson's. They'll be a dynasty of above average.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 31 @ 1:22 PM ET
How many Kobe/Durant/James-esque players are in this draft?

How many Garnett's? David Robinson's? Tim Duncan's?

From what I've read, this draft is choc full of a few Alonzo Mourning's followed by some Larry Johnson's. They'll be a dynasty of above average.

- jmatchett383


a lot of that is outside of a GMs control though. he cant make the draft class coming out any better.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 31 @ 1:24 PM ET
a lot of that is outside of a GMs control though. he cant make the draft class coming out any better.
- stayinthefnnet


Which is fine. My point is that you can draft high all you want. But if you get one John Wall and two Evan Turner's, it's not as good as having one pick in a year with Kevin Durant.

Edit: From the way he's talked about, Hinkie absolutely should be able to use his wizard alien powers to make this the deepest draft class in history.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 31 @ 1:26 PM ET
Which is fine. My point is that you can draft high all you want. But if you get one John Wall and two Evan Turner's, it's not as good as having one pick in a year with Kevin Durant.

Edit: From the way he's talked about, Hinkie absolutely should be able to use his wizard alien powers to make this the deepest draft class in history.

- jmatchett383


Anyone can throw shade on it if you'd like to bring that angle up. What should he be doing then?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 31 @ 1:28 PM ET
So I got a new way for the NHL to handle the draft. Once the season is over all non- playoff teams are placed in a single elimination tournament. Winner of the tournament would win the number one pick and so on. This way it would still make teams have a competitive roster and not tank. Plus the NHL would still get major viewing as the games for the draft playoff would be just as good as the Stanley cup playoffs.

Yeah or Ney?

- J35Bacher

Nah. Just flip the remaining 14 and put ALL the teams in a weighted lottery to pick 1 to 3.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 31 @ 1:28 PM ET
okafor is one of the best guys in the post down low with offense that i can remember coming out in a while. but the defense doesnt seem as good as you would hope from someone his size. although i guess that could enable him and noel to really be able to gel together.
- stayinthefnnet


Agreed. I think Okafor will be a great offensive player but average at best defensively. Towns probably has more potential because he can play both ends of the floor well, but he's not close to Okafor in terms of having a polished offensive game.

Id be very happy with any of the three guys I listed. Reminds me of last year when I felt Wiggins, Embiid and Parker were the three studs then there was a bit of a drop off. I like some other guys like Stanley Johnson, Mudiay and Winslow but I don't feel like they'll be stars like the top 3.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 31 @ 1:29 PM ET
would you take town or okafor if you had the first pick?

sorry if that was addressed earlier. just curious.

- stayinthefnnet


Okafor
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 31 @ 1:30 PM ET
Which is fine. My point is that you can draft high all you want. But if you get one John Wall and two Evan Turner's, it's not as good as having one pick in a year with Kevin Durant.

Edit: From the way he's talked about, Hinkie absolutely should be able to use his wizard alien powers to make this the deepest draft class in history.

- jmatchett383


John Wall is a good player. If the Sixers end up with a John Wall in this draft, I'll be quite happy
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 31 @ 1:30 PM ET
Anyone can throw shade on it if you'd like to bring that angle up. What should he be doing then?
- Just5


I would be down with any of the following:

1) Dissolving the team
2) Moving the team
3) Trying to put a winning team on the floor and drafting accordingly
4) Not trading all of his good players away to intentionally be bad

Over what he is currently doing. If you want to do this, then do it when there's a Kobe/Durant/Duncan/James coming up.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 31 @ 1:30 PM ET
Which is fine. My point is that you can draft high all you want. But if you get one John Wall and two Evan Turner's, it's not as good as having one pick in a year with Kevin Durant.

Edit: From the way he's talked about, Hinkie absolutely should be able to use his wizard alien powers to make this the deepest draft class in history.

- jmatchett383


that is true. but again, its hard to align with getting generational players.

and not that i think it would happen, but on the durant front, there are rumors they may trade him next year. if that was the case, the sixers would be in the running with just about whoever. able to turn over guys like embiid, whoever they take this year, other firsts, low costs guys. and then have the flexibility to turn around and offer him a max deal.

not saying its right or wrong, but i think theyre doing the best with what they have. basketball is very much a superstar game. it could definitely go bust for them, and despite all their opportunities they never get one. but, theyre at least trying to put themselves in the best position.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 31 @ 1:33 PM ET
John Wall is a good player. If the Sixers end up with a John Wall in this draft, I'll be quite happy
- PhillySportsGuy


If (if) the Sixers get him, he'll be traded for a first round pick within a year and a half. That's my issue with Hinkie: it seems like he'll never be happy and keep trading his "veterans" for more draft picks. At what point will he stop and just let the players develop?
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