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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 31 @ 5:00 PM ET
They haven't been awful at home this season. Fans who went to the games got to see a win most of the time.
- Feanor


That is a fair point. They have been pretty solid at home. But they've been realistically eliminated from playoff contention now for a month +. Playing the last 15-20 games as meaningless games is something most fans aren't going to deal with.

I think they are tied with the Sabres and Laffs with 30 road losses. Just pitiful.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 31 @ 5:01 PM ET
perhaps. but they'll always come back. to the flyers credit, they've never sucked for long. just that one 5 year period, and even the first and fifth years weren't that terrible.
- hammarby31


Yeah. Early 90's were pretty bad, but at least there was Lindros then. If the miss the playoffs next year, they will be in a pretty bad stretch.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Mar 31 @ 5:19 PM ET
Yeah. Early 90's were pretty bad, but at least there was Lindros then. If the miss the playoffs next year, they will be in a pretty bad stretch.
- PLindbergh31

If they miss next year then it will be the first time in over 20 years that they've missed in consecutive years.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 31 @ 5:22 PM ET
perhaps. but they'll always come back. to the flyers credit, they've never sucked for long. just that one 5 year period, and even the first and fifth years weren't that terrible.
- hammarby31

Hexy at the STH Town Hall said building from ground 0 isn't an option with the Flyers. None of the people managing it are built that way and the fans aren't built that way. Sucking for 5 years isn't an option. They will be patient and rebuild, but not by burning it to the ground.

And startlingly, I sold my ticket for Easter at not much of a loss in less that 24 hours. So someone still wants to pay to see them. (Or the Pens, which, welcome to it buddy.)

That will be my 17th home game missed in 20 years.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 31 @ 5:29 PM ET
Hexy at the STH Town Hall said building from ground 0 isn't an option with the Flyers. None of the people managing it are built that way and the fans aren't built that way. Sucking for 5 years isn't an option. They will be patient and rebuild, but not by burning it to the ground.

And startlingly, I sold my ticket for Easter at not much of a loss in less that 24 hours. So someone still wants to pay to see them. (Or the Pens, which, welcome to it buddy.)

That will be my 17th home game missed in 20 years.

- bodiva88


It's one thing to be bad, but man, they have just been flat out boring way too many nights as well. At least at home, they are usually competitive. On the road, they've pretty much been unwatchable.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 31 @ 5:30 PM ET
Hexy at the STH Town Hall said building from ground 0 isn't an option with the Flyers. None of the people managing it are built that way and the fans aren't built that way. Sucking for 5 years isn't an option. They will be patient and rebuild, but not by burning it to the ground.

And startlingly, I sold my ticket for Easter at not much of a loss in less that 24 hours. So someone still wants to pay to see them. (Or the Pens, which, welcome to it buddy.)

That will be my 17th home game missed in 20 years.

- bodiva88


Because as we all know, the best rebuilds are done in 2 years.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 31 @ 5:31 PM ET
Hexy at the STH Town Hall said building from ground 0 isn't an option with the Flyers. None of the people managing it are built that way and the fans aren't built that way. Sucking for 5 years isn't an option. They will be patient and rebuild, but not by burning it to the ground.

And startlingly, I sold my ticket for Easter at not much of a loss in less that 24 hours. So someone still wants to pay to see them. (Or the Pens, which, welcome to it buddy.)

That will be my 17th home game missed in 20 years.

- bodiva88

So just being bad for three years so far means there'll be a big change of direction next year or the year after that? Hope springs Ron... Hope certainly springs.

Let's go Kelowna!!!
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 31 @ 5:34 PM ET
Not sure of the direct quote, but the interesting thing from Bo's post is "none of the people managing" are that way.

In regards to a 5 year rebuild or whatever.

Personally, I think its folly to think Hextall is running things alone as GM. Just a title.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 31 @ 5:36 PM ET
Not sure of the direct quote, but the interesting thing from Bo's post is "none of the people managing" are that way.

In regards to a 5 year rebuild or whatever.

Personally, I think its folly to think Hextall is running things alone as GM. Just a title.

- flyer_nutter


Maybe, though I don't think Hextall takes the job if he doesn't get final say on hockey decisions. Of course, I could be wrong.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 31 @ 5:38 PM ET
Not sure of the direct quote, but the interesting thing from Bo's post is "none of the people managing" are that way.

In regards to a 5 year rebuild or whatever.

Personally, I think its folly to think Hextall is running things alone as GM. Just a title.

- flyer_nutter


Hextall isn't a puppet. What was said is that they aren't going to start from ground zero. Which would mean trading players such as Giroux and Voracek in a complete rebuild.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 31 @ 5:40 PM ET
Honestly, I really don't care if we pick 7th, 8th or 9th, either way, they are going to land a blue chip prospect with that pick and another good one with Tampa's 1st.

I'm more concerned with the following:

Can they get someone, anyone, to take VLC off their hands without having to surrender a valuable asset?

Can they somehow acquire at least a legit top pair dman?

Will they get a new coach, and if so, who?

To me, the above are much more important than if they pick 7th, 8th or 9th.

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 31 @ 5:40 PM ET
Hexy at the STH Town Hall said building from ground 0 isn't an option with the Flyers. None of the people managing it are built that way and the fans aren't built that way. Sucking for 5 years isn't an option. They will be patient and rebuild, but not by burning it to the ground.

And startlingly, I sold my ticket for Easter at not much of a loss in less that 24 hours. So someone still wants to pay to see them. (Or the Pens, which, welcome to it buddy.)

That will be my 17th home game missed in 20 years.

- bodiva88


That's a small number of missed games.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 31 @ 5:43 PM ET
That's a small number of missed games.
- ob18


That's impressive. We gave up our tix after the lost season of 04-05. They had just gotten too damn expensive. However from 1982 through 1992, I probably only missed 15-20 home games including playoffs. Those Keenan era teams were just so much fun to watch. They played hard every night, and if they were losing by more than 2 goals late, look out, because you knew that Keenan would have Brown on the ice looking to kill someone.
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Mar 31 @ 5:48 PM ET
The owners and players are making more of our money. That's all that matters.
- mayorofangrytown


Not mine......
I didnt even go for the NHL center ice this year, took what was in a general package ( NHL network, NBCSC and college hockey)
Of course the comcast cable snake gets my money but it was the best choice in the area and being out of the city the installer was not a subcontractor.
I only pay for ECHL minor league hockey and Comcast gets zero of that that
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 31 @ 5:51 PM ET
Honestly, I really don't care if we pick 7th, 8th or 9th, either way, they are going to land a blue chip prospect with that pick and another good one with Tampa's 1st.

I'm more concerned with the following:

Can they get someone, anyone, to take VLC off their hands without having to surrender a valuable asset?

Can they somehow acquire at least a legit top pair dman?

Will they get a new coach, and if so, who?

To me, the above are much more important than if they pick 7th, 8th or 9th.

- BiggE


No. They will either have to buy out Vinny or eat some of his money. Nobody will take him off their hands with out that.

Adding a top pair defenseman might be difficult. No doubt Hextall will be kicking tires.

Will they fired Berube? I hope so. But we shall see.

The draft is important, because they can land a potential top pair defenseman for the future, or a skilled goal scoring winger, or a playmaking second line center who can help others reach their full potential.
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Mar 31 @ 5:52 PM ET
That's impressive. We gave up our tix after the lost season of 04-05. They had just gotten too damn expensive. However from 1982 through 1992, I probably only missed 15-20 home games including playoffs. Those Keenan era teams were just so much fun to watch. They played hard every night, and if they were losing by more than 2 goals late, look out, because you knew that Keenan would have Brown on the ice looking to kill someone.

- BiggE


I had season tickets either full or split in the 79-83 era. I split some in the 90's and then just took corporate giveaways from where I worked or the wife's boss. I even refused free tickets a lot of times over the last 15 years, though I did see some during the hitch era maybe one or two since. Actually saw more hockey in other cities and the Canada Cup/World Cup 96 and 2004.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 31 @ 5:52 PM ET
Hexy at the STH Town Hall said building from ground 0 isn't an option with the Flyers. None of the people managing it are built that way and the fans aren't built that way. Sucking for 5 years isn't an option. They will be patient and rebuild, but not by burning it to the ground.

And startlingly, I sold my ticket for Easter at not much of a loss in less that 24 hours. So someone still wants to pay to see them. (Or the Pens, which, welcome to it buddy.)

That will be my 17th home game missed in 20 years.

- bodiva88


christ. you have a better attendance/availability record than 95 percent of the pens players.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 31 @ 5:54 PM ET
christ. you have a better attendance/availability record than 95 percent of the pens players.
- stayinthefnnet

stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 31 @ 5:54 PM ET
Honestly, I really don't care if we pick 7th, 8th or 9th, either way, they are going to land a blue chip prospect with that pick and another good one with Tampa's 1st.

I'm more concerned with the following:

Can they get someone, anyone, to take VLC off their hands without having to surrender a valuable asset?

Can they somehow acquire at least a legit top pair dman?

Will they get a new coach, and if so, who?

To me, the above are much more important than if they pick 7th, 8th or 9th.

- BiggE


i dont think you guys would like the cost very much.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 31 @ 5:55 PM ET
i dont think you guys would like the cost very much.
- stayinthefnnet


All it cost Anaheim was Ben Lovejoy...
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 31 @ 5:55 PM ET
No. They will either have to buy out Vinny or eat some of his money. Nobody will take him off their hands with out that.

Adding a top pair defenseman might be difficult. No doubt Hextall will be kicking tires.

Will they fired Berube? I hope so. But we shall see.

The draft is important, because they can land a potential top pair defenseman for the future, or a skilled goal scoring winger, or a playmaking second line center who can help others reach their full potential.

- Jsaquella


For sure the draft is important, I just think they are going to land a great player at 7, 8 or 9. If you assume McDavid, Eichel, Strome, Hanifin, Marner and Provorov are the top 6, that still leaves Barzal, Werenski or Crouse and any one of those 3 would be great prospects to add.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 31 @ 5:56 PM ET
All it cost Anaheim was Ben Lovejoy...
- Jsaquella

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 31 @ 5:56 PM ET
i dont think you guys would like the cost very much.
- stayinthefnnet


So what you're saying is Vinny, Rinaldo and 4th round pick won't get it done?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 31 @ 6:02 PM ET
All it cost Anaheim was Ben Lovejoy...
- Jsaquella




touche buddy.

although i wouldnt call despres a top pairing defender just yet. definitely one i wouldnt have made though. not that lovejoy has been awful in his return, but just. ugh.

i really think there needs to be something off the ice with him.

but the point remains! to get a legitimate top pairing D, the cost would have some absolutely riotous.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 31 @ 6:03 PM ET
So what you're saying is Vinny, Rinaldo and 4th round pick won't get it done?
- BiggE


is Wade Redden still around somewhere?
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