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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Of GM Tim Murray's supposed "obsession/infatuation" with Connor McDavid
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nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Mar 30 @ 5:59 PM ET
4 firsts
3 seconds
a number 2 pick


Forget it .

- cabin

GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Mar 30 @ 6:00 PM ET
Four 1st round picks, Two 2nd round picks, and last year's #2 overall pick
That's obscene
No GM would ever do that

U might get something like Reinhart plus our 1st this year.

But I'd seriously doubt anyone trades out of the #1 or #2 pick
I could see some movement in the 3-6 area though

- jdfitz77


It would be more than that but no team is trading #1
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Mar 30 @ 6:02 PM ET

- nfph


We'll trade you the entire roster of Buffalo and Rochester and keep paying all of them for McDavid.
Because he alone can win the stanley cup, right?
...RIGHT?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 30 @ 6:03 PM ET
It would be more than that but no team is trading #1
- GilPerreault11


Ya, I guess it's tough to say what it would take.
I'd think Eichel + Reinhart would be enough to get McDavid, but who knows?
And like u said, extremely doubtful #1 is traded. Almost never happens.
I also doubt #2 would get traded.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 30 @ 6:04 PM ET
It would be more than that but no team is trading #1
- GilPerreault11

Even trading Reinhart would be a step back. Good chance even up to the 4th pick would be as good or better than Reinhart. Rather keep both and kick ass.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 30 @ 6:05 PM ET
Ya, I guess it's tough to say what it would take.
I'd think Eichel + Reinhart would be enough to get McDavid, but who knows?
And like u said, extremely doubtful #1 is traded. Almost never happens.
I also doubt #2 would get traded.

- jdfitz77

May even take more. Probably have to add in a Dman
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Mar 30 @ 6:06 PM ET
In honor of our favorite columnists, Bucky Gleason and Mike Harrington, let's play a game:

We should not cheer for the Buffalo Sabres tonight. If we do, _________.

I'll start: "The terrorists win.'

- buffalofan19



"Keri Russell will leave me for another man"
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 30 @ 6:06 PM ET
Even trading Reinhart would be a step back. Good chance even up to the 4th pick would be as good or better than Reinhart. Rather keep both and kick ass.
- cabin

I may have to err on the side of Reinhardt with Strome/marner would be better than some crazy deal
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 30 @ 6:06 PM ET
May even take more. Probably have to add in a Dman
- hubie

And a superman, spiderman, batman and peter pucks 1st born too.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 30 @ 6:07 PM ET
I may have to err on the side of Reinhardt with Strome/marner would be better than some crazy deal
- hubie

And we still keep our future picks.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 30 @ 6:11 PM ET
And we still keep our future picks.
- cabin

Correct and if Murray as as good of a scout as he claimes to be then he should be able to make those picks worth while.
Now if we trade like a compher im fine with that. Have a feeling Zach Fucale will be a see the Sabres could have drafted him kind of guy
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 30 @ 6:12 PM ET
May even take more. Probably have to add in a Dman
- hubie


Ya, maybe...
I'd just take Eichel & be more than happy going forward.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 30 @ 6:15 PM ET
Ya, maybe...
I'd just take Eichel & be more than happy going forward.

- jdfitz77

Exactly, to be honest I kinda like his style of play more, granted I love them both. Fans will really like seeing him throw is body around.
Snowblind
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.08.2014

Mar 30 @ 6:18 PM ET
Four 1st round picks, Two 2nd round picks, and last year's #2 overall pick
That's obscene
No GM would ever do that

U might get something like Reinhart plus our 1st this year.

But I'd seriously doubt anyone trades out of the #1 or #2 pick
I could see some movement in the 3-6 area though

- jdfitz77


That's probably what it would take, though.

All the chips the Sabres have to offer are past, present and future 1st round picks at this point.

When the Nords traded Lindros, the Flyers and the Rangers both offered up a slew of good veteran players plus draft picks. They ended up getting Mike Ricci (a very good young 3rd line center), Steve Duchesne (a very good offensive defenseman), Ron Hextall (a legit #1 goalie), probably a couple of other veteran players I can't remember, plus a high 1st round pick that turned into Peter F-in Forsberg. And they got all that with a gun to their head.

In other words, a team ponying up for McDavid would have to give up a bunch of win-now type assets (none of which the Sabres obviously now have) plus a very high pick or top prospect or two. Otherwise, why bother? Now if they still had of Miller, Vanek and Ehrhoff, plus the #2 pick, then they'd be in business.
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

Mar 30 @ 6:21 PM ET
That's probably what it would take, though.

All the chips the Sabres have to offer are past, present and future 1st round picks at this point.

When the Nords traded Lindros, the Flyers and the Rangers both offered up a slew of good veteran players plus draft picks. They ended up getting Mike Ricci (a very good young 3rd line center), Steve Duchesne (a very good offensive defenseman), Ron Hextall (a legit #1 goalie), probably a couple of other veteran players I can't remember, plus a high 1st round pick that turned into Peter F-in Forsberg. And they got all that with a gun to their head.

In other words, a team ponying up for McDavid would have to give up a bunch of win-now type assets (none of which the Sabres obviously now have) plus a very high pick or top prospect or two. Otherwise, why bother? Now if they still had of Miller, Vanek and Ehrhoff, plus the #2 pick, then they'd be in business.

- Snowblind



The problem with this is that there wasn't an Eichel at 2 in the Lindros draft (as far as I know)
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Mar 30 @ 6:22 PM ET
Has anybody given any thought to what combination of losses by Buffalo, and wins by Arizona, will result in a guarantee that Buffalo finishes last? You could call it the "Special Number" or something like that?

Asking for a friend who really likes discussions like this.

- Der Kaiser


The magic number is actually 3 multiplied by Pi. Or 9.42477796077.

2-1 yotes in a SO. Gionta scores with 9 seconds left. And I hunt him down and forcefully shave off his goatee.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 30 @ 6:22 PM ET
That's probably what it would take, though.

All the chips the Sabres have to offer are past, present and future 1st round picks at this point.

When the Nords traded Lindros, the Flyers and the Rangers both offered up a slew of good veteran players plus draft picks. They ended up getting Mike Ricci (a very good young 3rd line center), Steve Duchesne (a very good offensive defenseman), Ron Hextall (a legit #1 goalie), probably a couple of other veteran players I can't remember, plus a high 1st round pick that turned into Peter F-in Forsberg. And they got all that with a gun to their head.

In other words, a team ponying up for McDavid would have to give up a bunch of win-now type assets (none of which the Sabres obviously now have) plus a very high pick or top prospect or two. Otherwise, why bother? Now if they still had of Miller, Vanek and Ehrhoff, plus the #2 pick, then they'd be in business.

- Snowblind


are you tellling me then Cody Hodgson wouldnt seal the deal? Fine add Mike weber
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 30 @ 6:23 PM ET
The problem with this is that there wasn't an Eichel at 2 in the Lindros draft (as far as I know)
- Herzeleid

2 future hofs in the draft (Neidermayer and Forsburg) Sharks took a big wiff on Pat Fallon
dwoo33
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.24.2010

Mar 30 @ 6:24 PM ET
If you lose out on McDavid you take Echiel and keep the other assets no? I would anyways... It would cost too much
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 30 @ 6:26 PM ET
If you lose out on McDavid you take Echiel and keep the other assets no? I would anyways... It would cost too much
- dwoo33

Correct, but we have to exhaust all possible scenarios
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 30 @ 6:27 PM ET
If you lose out on McDavid you take Echiel and keep the other assets no? I would anyways... It would cost too much
- dwoo33

Yes . The question was posted to pass the time .
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 30 @ 6:28 PM ET
Yes . The question was posted to pass the time .
- cabin

I guess the real question would be what would Murray take to deal Eichel?
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Mar 30 @ 6:30 PM ET
Correct, but we have to exhaust all possible scenarios
- hubie



I like how last week Reinhart was compared to malkin and toews now he is just an add in on a trade by those same people
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 30 @ 6:30 PM ET
I like how last week Reinhart was compared to malkin and toews now he is just an add in on a trade by those same people

- Fattony1187

Whom were these people?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 30 @ 6:31 PM ET
I guess the real question would be what would Murray take to deal Eichel?
- hubie

Hmmm.. I like the thought of keeping him and having our unique player instead of someone elses. Why would they trade for him. Seems we would lose quality and gain quantity. Backwards thinking of what TM has said earlier.
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