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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 30 @ 3:41 PM ET
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- Scoob

Wrong! They almost had him gone twice last summer so....




There.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 30 @ 3:44 PM ET
Wrong! They almost had him gone twice last summer so....




There.

- mayorofangrytown


Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

Also, were either of those "almosts" a free-and-clear trade? If yes, the opposing GM/GMs should be fired immediately.
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Mar 30 @ 3:44 PM ET
With low expectations it's hard to be disappointed.
- Scoob

Like that old SNL parody of a dating site......
Low Expectations
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 30 @ 3:46 PM ET
Any chance the flyers can trade Lacavlier without having to give up an asset or eat salary?
- flyerscup2011

0.0 chance. I don't even think they can trade him retaining some of his salary.

His goose is cooked and the league knows it.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 30 @ 3:46 PM ET
Whatever the deal is, I think it's time to move Coliacovo out of the lineup at this point. Whether it's Hagg, Lauridsen, Manning, Alt...it's just time to let him sit down.
- jmatchett383


Manning will probably play the last six games with MacDonald and LSchenn injured. And Colaiacovo has a much better chance of been with the Flyers organization next season than Lauridsen.

Hagg and Alt really haven't had good enough season in the AHL to be called up except in an emergency.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Mar 30 @ 3:47 PM ET
Like that old SNL parody of a dating site......
Low Expectations

- Steelmanpa


i hate to nit pick, but it was lowered expectations
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Mar 30 @ 3:48 PM ET
0.0 chance. I don't even think they can trade him retaining some of his salary.

His goose is cooked and the league knows it.

- Pixote Andolini


i wish he knew it so he could help un(frank) our cap sitch
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 30 @ 3:51 PM ET
Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

Also, were either of those "almosts" a free-and-clear trade? If yes, the opposing GM/GMs should be fired immediately.

- Scoob

GM's get fired all the time and it's almost always the caretaker who did it.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 30 @ 3:52 PM ET
This is a very telling graphic, and a stat that needs to change.


- MBFlyerfan


Was 24 chosen specifically instead of 25 to cut out Voracek's 76 points?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 30 @ 3:53 PM ET
Manning will probably play the last six games with MacDonald and LSchenn injured. And Colaiacovo has a much better chance of been with the Flyers organization next season than Lauridsen.

Hagg and Alt really haven't had good enough season in the AHL to be called up except in an emergency.

- Feanor


I'll give you Lauridsen. Still, unless there is a reason that does not allow them to do it, I'd rather have one of Alt/Hagg playing over Coliacovo. It's not exactly like our defense overall has been good at the NHL level, and I'd rather they let a few guys who may one day be in the lineup get a taste over a guy who, in almost all cases, won't be back next year.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 30 @ 3:53 PM ET
Manning will probably play the last six games with MacDonald and LSchenn injured. And Colaiacovo has a much better chance of been with the Flyers organization next season than Lauridsen.

Hagg and Alt really haven't had good enough season in the AHL to be called up except in an emergency.

- Feanor


Alt seems like he's been battling and coming back from injuries all year.

Hagg, from reports, reads like he needs more time in Terry Murray Finishing School for Defensemen.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 30 @ 3:54 PM ET
I'll give you Lauridsen. Still, unless there is a reason that does not allow them to do it, I'd rather have one of Alt/Hagg playing over Coliacovo. It's not exactly like our defense overall has been good at the NHL level, and I'd rather they let a few guys who may one day be in the lineup get a taste over a guy who, in almost all cases, won't be back next year.
- jmatchett383

But the salary cap you crazy misguided fool.
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Mar 30 @ 3:54 PM ET
i hate to nit pick, but it was lowered expectations
- flyerscup2011

No problem. Just glad someone else remembered it. Good point of reference for next season
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 30 @ 3:55 PM ET
Was 24 chosen specifically instead of 25 to cut out Voracek's 76 points?
- Feanor


Well the Islanders, Stars, and Blues certainly get bumps by having guys in the top 10 in scoring.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 30 @ 3:56 PM ET
But the salary cap you crazy misguided fool.
- mayorofangrytown


kay
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 30 @ 4:00 PM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/...l-on-ice-attack-1.3015185
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 30 @ 4:01 PM ET
This is a very telling graphic, and a stat that needs to change.


- MBFlyerfan


Which column is that list sorted on?

Edit: First person to say "Rk" gets a dope slap.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 30 @ 4:03 PM ET
Which column is that list sorted on?

Edit: First person to say "Rk" gets a dope slap.

- Scoob


I was gonna say on weed consumption

EDIT:

Looked up original tweet from Mirtle, he says it's sorted by a combination of points and ice time
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 30 @ 4:03 PM ET
Which column is that list sorted on?

Edit: First person to say "Rk" gets a dope slap.

- Scoob


Number of fools slapped.
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Mar 30 @ 4:04 PM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/andre-deveaux-former-nhl-player-fired-after-brutal-on-ice-attack-1.3015185
- Pixote Andolini

I wish nhl gm's had the courage to do that with Matt Cooke and black ball him
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 30 @ 4:06 PM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/andre-deveaux-former-nhl-player-fired-after-brutal-on-ice-attack-1.3015185
- Pixote Andolini


Holy poop! That's crazy. That dude's a lunatic.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 30 @ 4:07 PM ET
Holy poop! That's crazy. That dude's a lunatic.
- jmatchett383

I know right? Also before the puck is even dropped in the game?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 30 @ 4:10 PM ET
I know right? Also before the puck is even dropped in the game?
- Pixote Andolini


I was trying to think of a comparison. The McSorely/Simon attacks happened in the heat of the moment, so did the Boulerice incidents (plural). The only comparable thing that I can think of was the Domi sucker punch on Ulfie, but I don't think that even works.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Mar 30 @ 4:10 PM ET
Was 24 chosen specifically instead of 25 to cut out Voracek's 76 points?
- Feanor


That's a good point. That jumps us up to the top half automatically. (not counting every other teams players that are 25)
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 30 @ 4:11 PM ET
Which column is that list sorted on?

Edit: First person to say "Rk" gets a dope slap.

- Scoob

Oh wow, I didn't even notice that
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