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BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Mar 30 @ 10:32 PM ET
ANyone here Like sex?
- Uranus

What's up Uranus?
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Mar 30 @ 10:33 PM ET
The one thing they need is stones on the backend and its lets trade him? If he moves on fine, his choice. But unless its a package for a top 6 what is the point?
- Pie

Because if he's not going to crack the Habs roster, why keep him around if you can get something you need via trade. How long do you hold onto him and hope he develops?
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Mar 30 @ 10:34 PM ET
Also..... teams lining up for Gilbert? Gilbert. GILBERT lets steal that mother(frank)er.
- Pie

I think he would be a decent guy to play in the bottom pairing.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Mar 30 @ 10:35 PM ET
Was supposed to go to the game... didn't go
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 30 @ 10:35 PM ET
Luke Schenn........lite
- golfingsince

Its not too soon to retract this. Bluechip knocks someone down..Beaulieu fights...trade the one big ass defenseman that might do both. Says everyone that could skate the rideau canal without beheading children...maybe
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Mar 30 @ 10:36 PM ET
Also..... teams lining up for Gilbert? Gilbert. GILBERT lets steal that mother(frank)er.
- Pie


Oh dear Lord.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
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Mar 30 @ 10:38 PM ET
I think he would be a decent guy to play in the bottom pairing.
- cburgess

He has a pass out first that is nice but curls to the boards instead of the net when he gets hit.Pateryn curls to the net when he takes the hit...sometimes. All these young dmen take hits but sometimes they leave Price when they do it to the inside. (frank) those guys.
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Mar 30 @ 10:39 PM ET
Its not too soon to retract this. Bluechip knocks someone down..Beaulieu fights...trade the one big ass defenseman that might do both. Says everyone that could skate the rideau canal without beheading children...maybe
- Pie

Or he could just be a big slow defencemen that most forwards could just skate around a majority of the time. The game has changed. If you can't skate well, you won't do well in the NHL.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
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Mar 30 @ 10:40 PM ET
Or he could just be a big slow defencemen that most forwards could just skate around a majority of the time. The game has changed. If you can't skate well, you won't do well in the NHL.
- cburgess

if thats the case unless its for goals let it ride. I have faith in Tinordi.
Pie
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Mar 30 @ 10:40 PM ET
Oh dear Lord.
- pete26

speak pete
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Mar 30 @ 10:40 PM ET
He has a pass out first that is nice but curls to the boards instead of the net when he gets hit.Pateryn curls to the net when he takes the hit...sometimes. All these young dmen take hits but sometimes they leave Price when they do it to the inside. (frank) those guys.
- Pie

I agree the defence isn't great, but if tinordi is an upgrade, why is he not playing already? I'm sure the coaching staff would be smart enough to figure that out.
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Mar 30 @ 10:44 PM ET
if thats the case unless its for goals let it ride. I have faith in Tinordi.
- Pie

Well that's your opinion and I hope he does turn into a top 6 d man for the Habs. I just can't see it happening anytime soon with the current group they have.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
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Mar 30 @ 10:45 PM ET
I agree the defence isn't great, but if tinordi is an upgrade, why is he not playing already? I'm sure the coaching staff would be smart enough to figure that out.
- cburgess

I don't know. But I wouldn't just throw Tinordi out. I thought he did some damage when he was up. Sometimes it doesn't hurt to make their offense pay IMO.
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Mar 30 @ 10:48 PM ET
I don't know. But I wouldn't just throw Tinordi out. I thought he did some damage when he was up. Sometimes it doesn't hurt to make their offense pay IMO.
- Pie

Ok, but you don't want him taking a ton of penalties either. You don't see many players go for a huge check anymore because 1. If you miss, it's likely an odd man rush and 2. Risk of taking a penalty or getting suspended if you make contact with the head.
golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

Mar 30 @ 10:56 PM ET
Its not too soon to retract this. Bluechip knocks someone down..Beaulieu fights...trade the one big ass defenseman that might do both. Says everyone that could skate the rideau canal without beheading children...maybe
- Pie

I'm just (frank)ing around Pie. He does need to step up on his development soon however, the clock is ticking.
nords21
Montreal Canadiens
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 03.24.2014

Mar 30 @ 11:16 PM ET
I'm just (frank)ing around Pie. He does need to step up on his development soon however, the clock is ticking.
- golfingsince

I remember reading the AHL announcer for Hamilton saying that there were nights Tinordi looked like a top pairing NHL player; but over 1/2 of the games he plays he looks completely out of place. If its just consistency/maturity then he needs to find it fast; if he has already peaked talent wise then thats just sad and its time to give him to someone willing to pay for the inches rather than the talent.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Mar 30 @ 11:30 PM ET
speak pete
- Pie


Resign Gilbert/Petry?

Nope.

Only trade Tinordi if you can package him with a certain center to get a #1 center.

mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Mar 30 @ 11:35 PM ET
Resign Gilbert/Petry?

Nope.

Only trade Tinordi if you can package him with a certain center to get a #1 center.

- pete26

Hey bud
golfingsince
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Mar 30 @ 11:39 PM ET
Resign Gilbert/Petry?

Nope.

Only trade Tinordi if you can package him with a certain center to get a #1 center.

- pete26


So Tinordi and Galchenyuk for a #1 center?

Tough sell
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
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Mar 30 @ 11:45 PM ET
Hey bud
- mr.peanut


Hello!
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Mar 30 @ 11:52 PM ET
Hello!
- pete26

McKenna has pinned Desharnais and Therrien as the problems holding the Canadiens back

Also Eller would have DD's numbers if he had his spot.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Mar 30 @ 11:56 PM ET
McKenna has pinned Desharnais and Therrien as the problems holding the Canadiens back

Also Eller would have DD's numbers if he had his spot.

- mr.peanut


You sure follow along, don't you?
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Mar 30 @ 11:57 PM ET
You sure follow along, don't you?
- pete26

It helps put me to sleep. Fanboys tearing at each other after their team lost is quite soothing.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Mar 31 @ 12:00 AM ET
It helps put me to sleep. Fanboys tearing at each other after their team lost is quite soothing.
- mr.peanut


Funny.

You've been sleeping well since you were born.

WHAMMY!!
nords21
Montreal Canadiens
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 03.24.2014

Mar 31 @ 12:26 AM ET
McKenna has pinned Desharnais and Therrien as the problems holding the Canadiens back

Also Eller would have DD's numbers if he had his spot.

- mr.peanut

Think Eller gets a bad rap; he is a decent 3rd line C. He has some size, is OK at face offs, takes a lot of d-zone face offs and does well enough in his own end. His big downside I see is crazy high number of turnovers in offensive zone. Probably be best if he just changed lines every time the puck moved over the center line.

DD is okay, but spends way too much time on his butt. Every time I think he is about to make a play any other player can push him down with little effort. He could take lessons from St Louis on how to play beyond your physical size.

Bottom line is there are no good centers on this team. Plek is probably the best and he is only a second/third line center on most teams. Galchenyuk has the skills but apparently nothing else, yet.
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