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DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Mar 29 @ 12:06 PM ET
Kaleta is a very fast skater. It's everything else involving skill that he struggles with
- sbroads24


He might be fast, but he cannot stop to save his life once he gets going. Its either slam into someone, the boards or fall. Not to mention he's not agile and his balance is laughable. I actually think he has some decent hands but he's a mess on skates.

DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 29 @ 12:09 PM ET


Don't worry guys you might get crosby instead The Hockey News are such hacks
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Mar 29 @ 12:12 PM ET


Don't worry guys you might get crosby instead The Hockey News are such hacks

- DDM-Coga


lol

The starting point for this years first is both Crosby AND Malkin. And then some. no way a team passes up an 18 year old with 20 years ahead of him for 2 injury-prone late-20s not-in-their-prime-anymore cry babies.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 29 @ 12:14 PM ET


Don't worry guys you might get crosby instead The Hockey News are such hacks

- DDM-Coga

I wouldn't trade a top 2 pick for anything in the NHL. Not even Stamkos or Tavares who are 25 <
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 29 @ 12:15 PM ET
I wouldn't trade a top 2 pick for anything in the NHL. Not even Stamkos or Tavares who are 25 <
- sbroads24


You don't trade the pick regardless, and the whole article is if a team wins the draft like the Avs or Stars do you trade it for crosby to get back into the playoffs....

Ken Campbell you are the best at hockey, I'm so glad he gets a vote for all the year end awards.

The only one that is tempting is trading down to the number 3 spot. Phoenix would have to give up the 3rd, Ekman-Larsson, Boedker, and more to get that pick.

So if a team wins it that is coming out of their rebuild and are prime for playoff runs, do you make that trade...I probably wouldn't take it but thats w hen it starts to get tempting
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Mar 29 @ 12:19 PM ET
You don't trade the pick regardless, and the whole article is if a team wins the draft like the Avs or Stars do you trade it for crosby to get back into the playoffs....

Ken Campbell you are the best at hockey, I'm so glad he gets a vote for all the year end awards

- DDM-Coga


I'd argue McDavid gets any other non-playoff team into the playoffs just as much as Crosby would. This guy really thinks a team would trade at least 10 years of jersey sales, increased attendance, playoffs and guaranteed money-making for a 28 year old cry baby who's prone to injury and has only won 1 cup with his current team, when it actually had depth and veteran leadership? Crosby has not elevated Pittsburgh to much more than a popular market and a new arena.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 29 @ 12:20 PM ET
Who would the 2C be? Grigo?
- sbroads24

reinhart

I think they get broken up and we have a 1A, 1B line
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Mar 29 @ 12:20 PM ET
I wouldn't trade a top 2 pick for anything in the NHL. Not even Stamkos or Tavares who are 25 <
- sbroads24



And neither of those players have won a cup or even gotten to the finals.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 29 @ 12:22 PM ET
I wouldn't trade a top 2 pick for anything in the NHL. Not even Stamkos or Tavares who are 25 <
- sbroads24

I would trade our first all day long for stamkos, assuming he is extended
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 29 @ 12:23 PM ET
I'd argue McDavid gets any other non-playoff team into the playoffs just as much as Crosby would. This guy really thinks a team would trade at least 10 years of jersey sales, increased attendance, playoffs and guaranteed money-making for a 28 year old cry baby who's prone to injury and has only won 1 cup with his current team, when it actually had depth and veteran leadership? Crosby has not elevated Pittsburgh to much more than a popular market and a new arena.
- DynamicThreads


I think McDavid would have more impact for a team pushing them into the playoffs. He would be sheltered under a current deeper line up and probably will start to emerge later in the season being an unstoppable weapon scoring clutch goals with young legs and no fear playing.

Crosby is too cerebral now, McDavid would be full of piss and vinegar in his rookie season
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Mar 29 @ 12:25 PM ET
I think McDavid would have more impact for a team pushing them into the playoffs. He would be sheltered under a current deeper line up and probably will start to emerge later in the season being an unstoppable weapon scoring clutch goals with young legs and no fear playing.

Crosby is too cerebral now, McDavid would be full of piss and vinegar in his rookie season

- DDM-Coga


I agree. Just look at what MacKinnon did last year on the Avs. Until that scrub from St.Louis decided to go full blown retard on him.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 29 @ 12:26 PM ET
I agree. Just look at what MacKinnon did last year on the Avs. Until that scrub from St.Louis decided to go full blown retard on him.
- DynamicThreads


Backes, hes the worst. Shane Doan 2.0 with how much of a "warrior and leader" he is only in his own fan base but when you take the goggles off, you see that Backes only goes after guys smaller than himself
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Mar 29 @ 12:26 PM ET
I would trade our first all day long for stamkos, assuming he is extended
- homiedclown


Straight-up?

But in all seriousness, would you do it 1f1 as in our 1st for Stamkos or would you want/expect more?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 29 @ 12:29 PM ET
Straight-up?

But in all seriousness, would you do it 1f1 as in our 1st for Stamkos or would you want/expect more?

- DynamicThreads

even up

pick 1 or 2 for stamkos


give me the best goal scorer in the nhl at 25 all day long
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Mar 29 @ 12:29 PM ET
Backes, hes the worst. Shane Doan 2.0 with how much of a "warrior and leader" he is only in his own fan base but when you take the goggles off, you see that Backes only goes after guys smaller than himself
- DDM-Coga


I give Doan more credit than Backes, at least Doan backs his play up by dropping the gloves with anyone who comes along.

Backes is more like a Dustin Brown type, diving, kneeing, cheap shots multiple times a year, if not multiple times a game.
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Mar 29 @ 12:33 PM ET
even up

pick 1 or 2 for stamkos


give me the best goal scorer in the nhl at 25 all day long

- homiedclown


Who will start to decline in 5 years.

Or you can draft one of the top talents in 10 years and have him for the next decade plus.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 29 @ 12:37 PM ET
I give Doan more credit than Backes, at least Doan backs his play up by dropping the gloves with anyone who comes along.

Backes is more like a Dustin Brown type, diving, kneeing, cheap shots multiple times a year, if not multiple times a game.

- DynamicThreads

Backes will fight. Not that often but he will. Has 23 career fights.

He's fought some star players too. Nash, Benn, Perry
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Mar 29 @ 12:39 PM ET
even up

pick 1 or 2 for stamkos


give me the best goal scorer in the nhl at 25 all day long

- homiedclown


No way, it has to be minimum Stamkos and a 1st for the 1st or 2nd pick.

And best goal scorer in the game? I know Ovechkin takes about 100 more shots per season, therefore has a lower shooting %, and scores more on the powerplay, which means Stamkos is a more natural goal scorer. But still. He's instantly your #1 center and is pretty good at faceoffs but I'd take Ovechkin's physical style and point production over Stamkos. Maybe not a pushing 30 Ovechkin, but idk.

I look at it like this. I will quote myself on what I said about Crosby after he came into the league. I said he would NEVER score 50 goals in a season. I said he for sure will put up multiple 100-point seasons but I was sure he would never get to 50 goals.

I was definitely wrong. So by that logic, should I trade an 18 year old because I don't think he will ever score 60 goals in a season for an in his prime Stamkos who will almost definately score 50 goals again, and could score 60 again?

He has had a significant knee injury, mind you.

I just see no scenario where you trade McDavid, let alone Eichel (who many tell me is more NHL ready than McDavid) for Stamkos. What has Stamkos even done besides score goals?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 29 @ 12:47 PM ET
What has Stamkos even done besides score goals?
- DynamicThreads



I needed a new location

thanks

DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Mar 29 @ 12:54 PM ET


I needed a new location

thanks

- homiedclown


Glad I could be of service, but seriously. He hasn't won a Hart Trophy or Lester B. Pearson award, hasn't won an Art Ross trophy, wasn't on the Canadian gold medal team last year (due to injury, but still, they were 2 minutes away from potentially losing to Latvia and missing the gold medal game altogether), hasn't "led" his team to a Stanley Cup final and he isn't very physical as a player. He fought Brad, I'm 5 feet tall Marchand this year, and it was a glorified bear-hug, and he takes a swipe at anyone who doesn't take his sh!t around their goalie, when he regularly takes an extra few slaps at the puck when its been covered or the whistle has blown.

Tell me, please. What has Stamkos accomplished that say, Phil Kessel has not? Aside from 2 Richard trophies.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 29 @ 12:58 PM ET


Tell me, please. What has Stamkos accomplished that say, Phil Kessel has not? Aside from 2 Richard trophies.

- DynamicThreads

I think Stamkos and AO are 2 of the best players in the game, probably second and third best behind crosby

I like Kessel alot as well, but he is not in the same class as the other 2


players like stamkos and AO come along once every decade and are knowns

I would take stamkos all day long for a can't miss prospect
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Mar 29 @ 1:03 PM ET
I think Stamkos and AO are 2 of the best players in the game, probably second and third best behind crosby

I like Kessel alot as well, but he is not in the same class as the other 2


players like stamkos and AO come along once every decade and are knowns

I would take stamkos all day long for a can't miss prospect

- homiedclown


Idk man, I respect your opinion but I don't see how Stamkos is top-3 player in the league. I'd put Tavares, P. Kane and even Teows ahead of him when factoring in accomplishments and all around skill. Stamkos isn't even top-10 in scoring this season and Patrick Kane would have been the Art Ross winner by a country mile if he didn't get injured, and probably the only player to break 90 points, too.

Again, what has Stamkos accomplished, really, that an 18 year old McDavid or Eichel hasn't? Aside from a head-start on career goals in the NHL.


sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 29 @ 1:12 PM ET
Idk man, I respect your opinion but I don't see how Stamkos is top-3 player in the league. I'd put Tavares, P. Kane and even Teows ahead of him when factoring in accomplishments and all around skill. Stamkos isn't even top-10 in scoring this season and Patrick Kane would have been the Art Ross winner by a country mile if he didn't get injured, and probably the only player to break 90 points, too.

Again, what has Stamkos accomplished, really, that an 18 year old McDavid or Eichel hasn't? Aside from a head-start on career goals in the NHL.

- DynamicThreads

If Stammer were a Sabre you would be saying the opposite.

If he's not top 3, he's without a doubt top 5. He's the best or 2nd best goal scorer of this generation
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 29 @ 1:26 PM ET


I needed a new location

thanks

- homiedclown



Those were your exact words last time, which i intend to use as my location when we clinch 30th
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 29 @ 1:27 PM ET
If Stammer were a Sabre you would be saying the opposite.

If he's not top 3, he's without a doubt top 5. He's the best or 2nd best goal scorer of this generation

- sbroads24



Agreed, but i still wouldn't move 1st overall for him.
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