I'm surprised as well. I thought StanBo had a height limit for any draft picks or UFA signings...5'11" 185lb maximum i believe.
- EnzoD

2014

Matheson Iacopelli R USA 6' 1" 192 USHL Muskegon

Beau Starrett C/LW USA 6' 4" 197 USPHL PRE. South Shore

Fredrik Olofsson L SWE 6' 1" 185 USHL Chicago

Luc Snuggerud D USA 6' 0" 180 HIGH-MN Eden Prarie

Andreas Soderberg D SWE 6' 4" 200 SWEDEN-JR.

Ivan Nalimov G RUS 6' 5" 211 RUSSIA-JR. SKA St. Petersburg

Jack Ramsey R USA 6' 2" 175 BCHL Penticton


2013

Carl Dahlstrom D SWE 6' 3" 211 SWEDEN-JR. Linkoping

John Hayden C USA 6' 2" 210 USHL USA U-18

Robin Press D SWE 6' 2" 187 SWEDEN-2 Sodertalje


2012

Dillon Fournier D CAN 6' 1" 173 QMJHL Rouyn-Noranda

Chris Calnan R USA 6' 2" 187 HIGH-MA Nobles

Travis Brown D CAN 6' 1" 179 WHL Moose Jaw

Brandon Whitney G CAN 6' 5" 193 QMJHL Victoriaville

Matt Tomkins G CAN 6' 2" 176 AJHL Sherwood Park


2011

Mark McNeill C CAN 6' 1" 211 WHL Prince Albert

Phillip Danault L CAN 6' 0" 181 QMJHL Victoriaville

Brandon Saad L USA 6' 1" 203 OHL Saginaw

Michael Paliotta D USA 6' 3" 198 USHL USA U-18

Klas Dahlbeck D SWE 6' 2" 194 SWEDEN Linkoping

Maxim Shalunov R RUS 6' 3" 185 RUSSIA-JR. Chelyabinsk 2

Sam Jardine D CAN 6' 1" 190 AJHL Camrose

Johan Mattsson G SWE 6' 3" 200 SWE-JR. Sodertalje Jr.


2010

Kevin Hayes R USA 6' 2" 201 HIGH-MA Nobles

Ludvig Rensfeldt L SWE 6' 3" 192 SWE-JR. Brynas Jr.

Justin Holl D USA 6' 2" 170 HIGH-MN Minnetonka

Kent Simpson G CAN 6' 3" 182 WHL Everett

Stephen Johns D USA 6' 3" 215 USHL USA U-18

Joakim Nordstrom C SWE 6' 1" 160 SWE-JR. AIK Jr.

Rob Flick C CAN 6' 2" 205 OHL Mississauga

Mirko Hoefflin C DEU 6' 0" 174 GERMAN-JR. Mannheim Jr.

Nick Mattson D USA 6' 1" 189 USHL Indiana

Mac Carruth G USA 6' 2" 169 WHL Portland[url]

Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie · 1m 1 minute ago

Baun's deal with CHI is two-year entry level. Will burn 1st year now by playing game(s) this season.
- BreakoutHockey

I wonder if they could do this with Paliotta? Sign him, bring him here to observe and possibly play a late season game. Effectively a signing bonus plus burn a year of the ELC as an incentive to sign here now....

2014

Matheson Iacopelli R USA 6' 1" 192 USHL Muskegon

Beau Starrett C/LW USA 6' 4" 197 USPHL PRE. South Shore

Fredrik Olofsson L SWE 6' 1" 185 USHL Chicago

Luc Snuggerud D USA 6' 0" 180 HIGH-MN Eden Prarie

Andreas Soderberg D SWE 6' 4" 200 SWEDEN-JR.

Ivan Nalimov G RUS 6' 5" 211 RUSSIA-JR. SKA St. Petersburg

Jack Ramsey R USA 6' 2" 175 BCHL Penticton


2013

Carl Dahlstrom D SWE 6' 3" 211 SWEDEN-JR. Linkoping

John Hayden C USA 6' 2" 210 USHL USA U-18

Robin Press D SWE 6' 2" 187 SWEDEN-2 Sodertalje


2012

Dillon Fournier D CAN 6' 1" 173 QMJHL Rouyn-Noranda

Chris Calnan R USA 6' 2" 187 HIGH-MA Nobles

Travis Brown D CAN 6' 1" 179 WHL Moose Jaw

Brandon Whitney G CAN 6' 5" 193 QMJHL Victoriaville

Matt Tomkins G CAN 6' 2" 176 AJHL Sherwood Park

2011

Mark McNeill C CAN 6' 1" 211 WHL Prince Albert

Phillip Danault L CAN 6' 0" 181 QMJHL Victoriaville

Brandon Saad L USA 6' 1" 203 OHL Saginaw

Michael Paliotta D USA 6' 3" 198 USHL USA U-18

Klas Dahlbeck D SWE 6' 2" 194 SWEDEN Linkoping

Maxim Shalunov R RUS 6' 3" 185 RUSSIA-JR. Chelyabinsk 2

Sam Jardine D CAN 6' 1" 190 AJHL Camrose

Johan Mattsson G SWE 6' 3" 200 SWE-JR. Sodertalje Jr.

2010

Kevin Hayes R USA 6' 2" 201 HIGH-MA Nobles

Ludvig Rensfeldt L SWE 6' 3" 192 SWE-JR. Brynas Jr.

Justin Holl D USA 6' 2" 170 HIGH-MN Minnetonka

Kent Simpson G CAN 6' 3" 182 WHL Everett

Stephen Johns D USA 6' 3" 215 USHL USA U-18

Joakim Nordstrom C SWE 6' 1" 160 SWE-JR. AIK Jr.

Rob Flick C CAN 6' 2" 205 OHL Mississauga

Mirko Hoefflin C DEU 6' 0" 174 GERMAN-JR. Mannheim Jr.

Nick Mattson D USA 6' 1" 189 USHL Indiana

Mac Carruth G USA 6' 2" 169 WHL Portland
- BreakoutHockey

Touche!

I wonder if they could do this with Paliotta? Sign him, bring him here to observe and possibly play a late season game. Effectively a signing bonus plus burn a year of the ELC as an incentive to sign here now....
- tredbrta

Interesting thought. Not sure if there are any different rules governing contract status for college UFAs as opposed to drafted college players, though.

I wonder if they could do this with Paliotta? Sign him, bring him here to observe and possibly play a late season game. Effectively a signing bonus plus burn a year of the ELC as an incentive to sign here now....
- tredbrta

I think there is that slide rule for ELC (drafted) players where they have to play a certain amount of games for the year to count.

I think there is that slide rule for ELC (drafted) players where they have to play a certain amount of games for the year to count.
- BearsnHawks

Probably the 10 game rule we hear about so often at the start of the season.

The Hawks look average or much slower when they can't complete the first pass out of their zone. Not a foot speed thing, the puck moves the fastest. But when they don't pass well the offense does stumble,
- Al

I agree. And when the forwards stand still in the neutral zone waiting for a pass they look even slower. When the forwards get their game back the whole team will perform better.

Maybe in the minority but I thought Richards played pretty well last night.

At least in terms of my expectations he hasn't been any more or less of what I expected and accomplished his mission (while he was healthy at least) of keeping Patrick Kane at or near the top of the scoring list.

There is something to be said about consistency and if Richards has been anything this year it has been consistent.

I've beaten this theme into the ground but when there is an issue with +12 skaters on the ice then something goofy is probably going on. Alternatively, they could also know that they are in the playoffs and just not care anymore. The only meaningful change I think they can make at this point is getting the top two pairings together and ready to go.

Also, if Vermette "helps" Toews so much then why does he look so listless at times? For everyone that harps about him being the engine, aside from 3 games the past 2 months, there is little to indicate that Toews has the ability to impose his will on the game on a consistent basis. I think that is very worrisome. And forget the little things at this point. Kruger does the little things. There ought to be another gear there that just seems absent and it befuddles me.

8-3-1 since the league leading scorer went down. Those are results from this month. Go back to your hole.
- Sandus

Thank this guy:

JJ, you do have to be a coach to realize tha Coach Q's coaching this year has not been a master piece. All the blending, preferring veterans that are over the hill has not helped this team. IMO, he has lost the the team...players are ignoring his instructions and are going through the motions. Let us not put all the blame on bad luck, opponents goalie playingn lights out, the long road trip and some of our players not playing up to snuff. The bottom line is the team has played like crap for 3 months and if it wasn't for some stellar play by our goalies...the Hawks would be on the verge of missing the playoffs.
- spanky

Do you blame the coach for not adjusting system based on his roster or the GM for not giving the coach the players needed to execute his system?

Maybe in the minority but I thought Richards played pretty well last night.

At least in terms of my expectations he hasn't been any more or less of what I expected and accomplished his mission (while he was healthy at least) of keeping Patrick Kane at or near the top of the scoring list.

There is something to be said about consistency and if Richards has been anything this year it has been consistent.

I've beaten this theme into the ground but when there is an issue with +12 skaters on the ice then something goofy is probably going on. Alternatively, they could also know that they are in the playoffs and just not care anymore. The only meaningful change I think they can make at this point is getting the top two pairings together and ready to go.

Also, if Vermette "helps" Toews so much then why does he look so listless at times? For everyone that harps about him being the engine, aside from 3 games the past 2 months, there is little to indicate that Toews has the ability to impose his will on the game on a consistent basis. I think that is very worrisome. And forget the little things at this point. Kruger does the little things. There ought to be another gear there that just seems absent and it befuddles me.
- fattybeef

comfort leads to complacency. Even with Q scratching players on a daily basis, it seems that they are not motivated to compete every shift. There are flashes of great play, just no consistency. It's as much a mental thing for some Hawks, as it is physical limitations in the case of Rosival/KT. I believe they can still beat Nashville in round 1, but beyond that its really not a sure thing for me. They need to worry about Minny at this point, and with 3 straight poor performances, I expect a very solid effort tm night.

Thank this guy:


- fattybeef

He's been meh.

>JJ, very well said
>But Q is not blameless in this current trainwreck
>When a team loses its playing structure and compete level throughout the lineup, something is very wrong
>Quite right, Q cannot play for the players but it IS up to him to fix the problem
>Rozy is not working -- yes, Hawks likely to play only 5 D once playoffs begin -- but is that Rozy, KT, or who -- that's on Stan and Q -- no real 3rd pair -- which is likely the biggest roster problem the Hawks have
>Vermette is hopefully going through a dead-leg stage -- he is invisible out there
>Toews just strung together 3 of the worst games of his career
>#65 and #20 were the only Hawk forwards to show any serious compete level last night
>Hawks inability to finish has every opponent crashing the Hawks zone -- with little or no fear of giving up odd-man breaks -- expecting another Hawks' shot into the goaler's crest
>Most of the mistakes by the Dmen start with poor decision-making and many of the right choices would be made by simply skating with the puck or going the other way instead into a pile of players (see Rozy, shift after shift)
>Back to Q -- switching to the "checking first" mentality after #88 got hurt -- seems to have worn off quickly -- are players thinking too much, playing too cautious? Players playing like they are stuck between philosophies
>On a positive note, Johnny Oduya with another very good game last night -- one of his best this year -- he's quietly regaining his confidence

>JJ, very well said
>But Q is not blameless in this current trainwreck
>When a team loses its playing structure and compete level throughout the lineup, something is very wrong
>Quite right, Q cannot play for the players but it IS up to him to fix the problem
>Rozy is not working -- yes, Hawks likely to play only 5 D once playoffs begin -- but is that Rozy, KT, or who -- that's on Stan and Q -- no real 3rd pair -- which is likely the biggest roster problem the Hawks have
>Vermette is hopefully going through a dead-leg stage -- he is invisible out there
>Toews just strung together 3 of the worst games of his career
>#65 and #20 were the only Hawk forwards to show any serious compete level last night
>Hawks inability to finish has every opponent crashing the Hawks zone -- with little or no fear of giving up odd-man breaks -- expecting another Hawks' shot into the goaler's crest
>Most of the mistakes by the Dmen start with poor decision-making and many of the right choices would be made by simply skating with the puck or going the other way instead into a pile of players (see Rozy, shift after shift)
>Back to Q -- switching to the "checking first" mentality after #88 got hurt -- seems to have worn off quickly -- are players thinking too much, playing too cautious? Players playing like they are stuck between philosophies
>On a positive note, Johnny Oduya with another very good game last night -- one of his best this year -- he's quietly regaining his confidence
- SnapitUpstairs

Snap, 1st, let me say I always enjoy your insights!

1. No, Q is NOT blameless in this mess. And IMO, it is a mess, creating bad habits that clearly are very hard for this group to break.

2. Q should reconsider his D pairings from this point forward. Re-unite 2/7 and 4/27. They are all capable of 20+ each a night. Q will have to simply protect that 3rd pair and divvy up time between those 4 and the 2 "chosen" to take some 3rd pair minutes. The 2/32 and 7/44 pairings are not working.

3. The D men that CAN skate the puck out are usually too exhausted to do so because they've had to cover for a D partner that is past their "Sell By" date. Returning the pairs will help in this regard and provide a lot more "normalcy" to typical breakouts for the forwards.

>JJ, very well said
>But Q is not blameless in this current trainwreck
>When a team loses its playing structure and compete level throughout the lineup, something is very wrong
>Quite right, Q cannot play for the players but it IS up to him to fix the problem
>Rozy is not working -- yes, Hawks likely to play only 5 D once playoffs begin -- but is that Rozy, KT, or who -- that's on Stan and Q -- no real 3rd pair -- which is likely the biggest roster problem the Hawks have
>Vermette is hopefully going through a dead-leg stage -- he is invisible out there
>Toews just strung together 3 of the worst games of his career
>#65 and #20 were the only Hawk forwards to show any serious compete level last night
>Hawks inability to finish has every opponent crashing the Hawks zone -- with little or no fear of giving up odd-man breaks -- expecting another Hawks' shot into the goaler's crest
>Most of the mistakes by the Dmen start with poor decision-making and many of the right choices would be made by simply skating with the puck or going the other way instead into a pile of players (see Rozy, shift after shift)
>Back to Q -- switching to the "checking first" mentality after #88 got hurt -- seems to have worn off quickly -- are players thinking too much, playing too cautious? Players playing like they are stuck between philosophies
>On a positive note, Johnny Oduya with another very good game last night -- one of his best this year -- he's quietly regaining his confidence
- SnapitUpstairs

Hey Snap...

as far as the defense I'm still putting that on Stan...going back to the exit post Kings series. Bowman should have added to the defense then and I'm not talking Runblad/Erixon etc...Bickell/Sharp etc should have been moved at the draft and the defense should have been upgraded.

We still need a viable third pair and with KT's situation and Rosy's bad play is that possible? 2-7 and 4-27 need to be going at this point.

Also wish the Q blender would calm down a bit. Especially for Vermette. As if the guy doesn't have enough to deal with adjusting to a team his linemates change almost every other shift.

I'm still wondering if Toews is hurt...

Hoping they get back to the checking game here tomorrow night...but the Jackets have looked good as of late wining 8 out of 10. And then which Hawk team shows Sunday/Monday...the one that beat the Rags or the one that just phoned in the last three games of the road trip.

>JJ, very well said
>But Q is not blameless in this current trainwreck
>When a team loses its playing structure and compete level throughout the lineup, something is very wrong
>Quite right, Q cannot play for the players but it IS up to him to fix the problem
>Rozy is not working -- yes, Hawks likely to play only 5 D once playoffs begin -- but is that Rozy, KT, or who -- that's on Stan and Q -- no real 3rd pair -- which is likely the biggest roster problem the Hawks have
>Vermette is hopefully going through a dead-leg stage -- he is invisible out there
>Toews just strung together 3 of the worst games of his career
>#65 and #20 were the only Hawk forwards to show any serious compete level last night
>Hawks inability to finish has every opponent crashing the Hawks zone -- with little or no fear of giving up odd-man breaks -- expecting another Hawks' shot into the goaler's crest
>Most of the mistakes by the Dmen start with poor decision-making and many of the right choices would be made by simply skating with the puck or going the other way instead into a pile of players (see Rozy, shift after shift)
>Back to Q -- switching to the "checking first" mentality after #88 got hurt -- seems to have worn off quickly -- are players thinking too much, playing too cautious? Players playing like they are stuck between philosophies
>On a positive note, Johnny Oduya with another very good game last night -- one of his best this year -- he's quietly regaining his confidence
- SnapitUpstairs

Agreed! The poor play is on everyone including the coaches,

I disagree completely about different philosophies. The team was, is and will always be a defense first team. Getting away from that structure has been their problem.

Al, any chance Pokka makes the jump next year. I've read he is already on the top d-pair playing in all situations. How about Carey? does he have an NHL future?
- EnzoD

Not sure on Pokka....Haven't heard anything much on Carey.

Snap, 1st, let me say I always enjoy your insights!

1. No, Q is NOT blameless in this mess. And IMO, it is a mess, creating bad habits that clearly are very hard for this group to break.

2. Q should reconsider his D pairings from this point forward. Re-unite 2/7 and 4/27. They are all capable of 20+ each a night. Q will have to simply protect that 3rd pair and divvy up time between those 4 and the 2 "chosen" to take some 3rd pair minutes. The 2/32 and 7/44 pairings are not working.

3. The D men that CAN skate the puck out are usually too exhausted to do so because they've had to cover for a D partner that is past their "Sell By" date. Returning the pairs will help in this regard and provide a lot more "normalcy" to typical breakouts for the forwards.
- savvyone-1

>Thanks, Savvy
>Savvy & DK -- I agree it's time to put your top 4 Dmen back together
>Find it interesting that Q put #10 on the top line and the Hawks won several in a row -- and then broke up 10/19/81 and everything went downhill
>Like the lines Q had today at practice, other than #23 on the top line -- maybe he will put #10 back there at some point
>Toews is obviously a tremendous talent, but his OZ behind the net moves and approaches have gotten stale, stale, stale -- a no-call bearhug by opposing D takes him off the puck
>JT needs to watch tape of players who have some great behind the net moves so that he can add a few new tricks when he is back there
>Am wondering if the "checking first" mentality has the Hawks REACTING to what the other team is doing instead of their usual team approach of DICTATING play

Agreed! The poor play is on everyone including the coaches,

I disagree completely about different philosophies. The team was, is and will always be a defense first team. Getting away from that structure has been their problem.
- paulr

>Paul, Q did say when Kaner went down that we have to "check first now" and look to win tighter games
>As I just posted, perhaps it is as subtle as players "waiting or looking" to see what the other team is doing instead of just playing
>Hawks have not possessed the puck very much during these stinker games

It was reported Colgate's Kyle Baun had 18 teams interested in signing him. Bob McKenzie said today he is likely coming to Chicago.
- Al

Dreger said last night Calgary had a front seat for him and he for them

Q: Does he report to NHL AHL or ECHL

Not sure on Pokka....Haven't heard anything much on Carey.
- Al

Carey is still rough around the edges but has impressed at times in Rockford. Could see him a 3rd/4th liner down the road - can kill penalties and is far feistier than I realized.

Quenneville: Nordstrom out about a week. Carcillo day to day w/upper body injury. Crawford in goal Friday.

Carey is still rough around the edges but has impressed at times in Rockford. Could see him a 3rd/4th liner down the road - can kill penalties and is far feistier than I realized.
- BreakoutHockey

Your thoughts on Pokka? I have heard only good things about the 19 yr old

JJ, you want 10/16/81, along with 20/19/86? Really? Just kidding. Excellent idea. Seriously. Crank up the Q blender and let it rip. It can hardly be worse than what they have now and perhaps better. One more thing on the 29 motivation. Sit his ass again in favor of 13. Oh, and I'm willing to let 11 be in there every last RS game. Let's see if he can fulfill the 4th line needs, including winning a plurality of draws.

>Paul, Q did say when Kaner went down that we have to "check first now" and look to win tighter games
>As I just posted, perhaps it is as subtle as players "waiting or looking" to see what the other team is doing instead of just playing
>Hawks have not possessed the puck very much during these stinker games
- SnapitUpstairs

Yes he did say that. But hasn't he always stressed the Hawks were a check first team in the past? If you don't check first you will never have puck. The best teams are all check first and possess teams. Right now the Hawks seem to be a team that wants to possess the puck without getting it first. I really don't see a change in philosophy as much as getting back to it.

As I've said all along, if the team's best players aren't playing that way how they play won't matter. The Hawks need Toews, Hossa, sharp, Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson et all to play their best, like Crawford has been.