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Mar 24 @ 6:08 PM ET
There were many times where in the dying moments of a third period where we held a one goal lead post Mike Richards and Giroux was trusted to hold off the opposing team's best to hang on to the lead. Giroux was often the cause of loss coverage that led to the eventual goal scorer to tie up the game. - SuperSchennBros
he's definitely improved defensively and doesn't blow coverages like he used to, but I wouldn't call him a top two way/defensive center in the league. Of course, when you put up the points he does, it's pretty hard to be disappointed.
he's definitely improved defensively and doesn't blow coverages like he used to, but I wouldn't call him a top two way/defensive center in the league. Of course, when you put up the points he does, it's pretty hard to be disappointed. - BulliesPhan87
I agree, he has improved defensively, but not to the point of being fantastic at it.
So he's pret-ty, pret-ty, pretty good - funmaster18
I would label as being responsible defensively, and rarely fails to make an effort to play both ends of the ice. With the way the rest of his game is, I'm okay with that.
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Mar 24 @ 6:19 PM ET
I would label as being responsible defensively, and rarely fails to make an effort to play both ends of the ice. With the way the rest of his game is, I'm okay with that. - MJL
It was a curb your enthusiasm reference, if you aren't familiar.
But I agree, his offensive game, combined with his defensive game, leaves little for me to be unhappy about.
Not sure it's something to worry about yet. Laughton might need more AHL time, he might be ready now. Schenn has had flashes of good play, but has never really shown flashes of being a potentially dominant player, at either center or wing. Money might end up being a factor in determining which one stays or goes, as could the draft.
If the Flyers land a kid like Barzal or Strome, they project as potential top line centers. I'm not advocating a trade of anyone now, unless it's for good value. Schenn might find a spot and really break out next year as a winger. Or maybe he can land them a really good, young defenseman. It's not as easy as saying, "they have to deal one of these guys", because they don't. - Jsaquella
Two things concern me in regards to B. Schenn's future development. I just don't see in him better than average hockey sense nor does he have better than average speed. Jake Voracek always had speed and size, he just needed to find the maturity to take his game to the next level. Simmonds always had toughness, grit and a willingness to go hard to the net in his game and Couturier has always had excellence defensive awareness and the ability to effectively shut down top centers and kill penalties.
I just don't see any part of Schenn's overall game that leaps out at you. Of all the young forwards, he's the one I'd be most willing to move in the right deal.
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Mar 24 @ 6:48 PM ET
Two things concern me in regards to B. Schenn's future development. I just don't see in him better than average hockey sense nor does he have better than average speed. Jake Voracek always had speed and size, he just needed to find the maturity to take his game to the next level. Simmonds always had toughness, grit and a willingness to go hard to the net in his game and Couturier has always had excellence defensive awareness and the ability to effectively shut down top centers and kill penalties.
I just don't see any part of Schenn's overall game that leaps out at you. Of all the young forwards, he's the one I'd be most willing to move in the right deal. - BiggE
The other side of that coin is that if you trade him sooner rather than later, you're running the risk of selling low.
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Mar 24 @ 7:02 PM ET
Two things concern me in regards to B. Schenn's future development. I just don't see in him better than average hockey sense nor does he have better than average speed. Jake Voracek always had speed and size, he just needed to find the maturity to take his game to the next level. Simmonds always had toughness, grit and a willingness to go hard to the net in his game and Couturier has always had excellence defensive awareness and the ability to effectively shut down top centers and kill penalties.
I just don't see any part of Schenn's overall game that leaps out at you. Of all the young forwards, he's the one I'd be most willing to move in the right deal. - BiggE
Two things concern me in regards to B. Schenn's future development. I just don't see in him better than average hockey sense nor does he have better than average speed. Jake Voracek always had speed and size, he just needed to find the maturity to take his game to the next level. Simmonds always had toughness, grit and a willingness to go hard to the net in his game and Couturier has always had excellence defensive awareness and the ability to effectively shut down top centers and kill penalties.
I just don't see any part of Schenn's overall game that leaps out at you. Of all the young forwards, he's the one I'd be most willing to move in the right deal. - BiggE
Yeah, I don't disagree. Schenn doesn't really stand out in any way and his intensity doesn't always seem to be there, which is puzzling considering his rep as a junior aged player.
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Mar 24 @ 7:19 PM ET
Yeah, I don't disagree. Schenn doesn't really stand out in any way and his intensity doesn't always seem to be there, which is puzzling considering his rep as a junior aged player. - Jsaquella
Yeah, that fad of drafting Mike Richards type players hasn't really panned out for anyone. Horvat is decent thus far I guess...
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Mar 24 @ 7:24 PM ET
I don't know, I imagine him just stupid drunk off of wine, smiling and slurring his words without really being able to land a punch. I think Frank is the dirty fighter. - funmaster18
Frank definitely talks poop during fights. He would be the one to yell "King Kong ain't got nothing on me!"
Man, if the Kings don't squeak in the Canes will end up with two top 15 picks. They don't have a terrible roster as it is either. They could conceivably draft Provorov and move up a few spots for Werenski. - hereticpride
IT'S NOT TRUE
ONLY THE FLYERS HAVE A BRIGHT FUTURE FILLED WITH RAINBOWS AND PROSPECTS
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Mar 24 @ 7:35 PM ET
I'm amazed at how many buy Seravalli's nonsense. He should be reporting for TMZ. - MJL
Well, his reporting of Berube and Mason not seeing eye to eye is clearly incorrect. They just had that meeting to clear the air and everything. Pretty sure Mason and Berube are Facebook friends too. Things are fine. They're just fine. No reason to even worry. I'm not worried. I mean why would I be worried? Mason has perfect health and a great relationship with all members of the organization. It's fine. We're fine. Everything is (frank)ing fine. CHILL OUT!
Two things concern me in regards to B. Schenn's future development. I just don't see in him better than average hockey sense nor does he have better than average speed. Jake Voracek always had speed and size, he just needed to find the maturity to take his game to the next level. Simmonds always had toughness, grit and a willingness to go hard to the net in his game and Couturier has always had excellence defensive awareness and the ability to effectively shut down top centers and kill penalties.
I just don't see any part of Schenn's overall game that leaps out at you. Of all the young forwards, he's the one I'd be most willing to move in the right deal. - BiggE
I won't say never, because stranger things have happened. Guys can shoot a high percentage all season, etc.
Personally, just me and my opinion, I would be shocked if Brayden Schenn makes a tangible leap in production/development.
I just don't see the hockey sense that is necessary to do that -- I truly don't.
If they keep him, I hope I'm wrong. But I think going forward, he is exactly what we see right now.
Well, his reporting of Berube and Mason not seeing eye to eye is clearly incorrect. They just had that meeting to clear the air and everything. Pretty sure Mason and Berube are Facebook friends too. Things are fine. They're just fine. No reason to even worry. I'm not worried. I mean why would I be worried? Mason has perfect health and a great relationship with all members of the organization. It's fine. We're fine. Everything is (frank)ing fine. CHILL OUT! - PhillySportsGuy
They're all going out to lunch with Jeff Reese tomorrow, amirite?
When the Daily News and Servalli get sued for libel and he can't produce his quotes or sources, or when the Flyers request that an actual correction or retraction be printed, I'll believe that everything's fine
Until then, I'll go with the reports that a guy is filing that isn't just propaganda for a team where it would be far easier to just go along with the flow and say nothing about what you actually see or hear
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Mar 24 @ 7:43 PM ET
Two things concern me in regards to B. Schenn's future development. I just don't see in him better than average hockey sense nor does he have better than average speed. Jake Voracek always had speed and size, he just needed to find the maturity to take his game to the next level. Simmonds always had toughness, grit and a willingness to go hard to the net in his game and Couturier has always had excellence defensive awareness and the ability to effectively shut down top centers and kill penalties.
I just don't see any part of Schenn's overall game that leaps out at you. Of all the young forwards, he's the one I'd be most willing to move in the right deal. - BiggE
Again, what is Brayden Schenn's role? What is his style of play? Wayne Simmonds and Jake Voracek are Right Wingers, period! Within Schenn's development he's played all three forward positions. Right now Schenn is being used like Scott Hartnell and he isn't Scott Hartnell. None of this can be ignored.
Early today a couple guys brought up that they see some zip and drive in Laughton's game that they don't see in Schenn. Well Laughton is trying to nail down a job and Schenn isn't. I once saw that type of drive in a lot of different young players including Mike Richards. Look where it got Mike Richards. This expectation that a young player will continue to push like this seems to fool everyone every time a new young player is brought up to the big leagues.
If memory serves, Brayden Schenn looked pretty good from the 2012 Winter Classic that carried right into the 2012 playoff series against the Pens where he played well. Checking Crosby. Upsetting Arron Asham. Scoring.
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Mar 24 @ 7:43 PM ET
They're all going out to lunch with Jeff Reese tomorrow, amirite?
When the Daily News and Servalli get sued for libel and he can't produce his quotes or sources, or when the Flyers request that an actual correction or retraction be printed, I'll believe that everything's fine
Until then, I'll go with the reports that a guy is filing that isn't just propaganda for a team where it would be far easier to just go along with the flow and say nothing about what you actually see or hear - AllInForFlyers
Yeah. It would help their cause if they gave an actual reason for Reese leaving. I really doubt it was for personal reasons.